Glad the baby survived.
So sad for all the victims :bawling:
This is the result of closing all the mental institutions down.
Same as in Italy, the mentally unwell are roaming the streets.

He was only a little man. His profile on would escort website said he was 170-174. Must be an incel or what ever you call them

He was mentally ill.
That brave Muslim guy who confronted him. He definitely stopped him from killing so many more people. :clap1:

On the Escalator?
He used a Metal Stop sign

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/273112...feman-bollard/

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[Sydney knife killer's secret life as escort:
Joe Cauchi offered services on sex work sites
before shopping centre massacre that
left six dead and nine-month-old fighting
for life - as his family
release statement branding
his attack 'truly horrific']


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-massacre.html


To think women went out with him.

I wonder if he was like undiagnosed schizophrenic or bi polar. I can honestly say that mentally unstable people are absolutely terrifying. You can see it in their eyes when they have a breakdown. It’s surreal

Could be
he stopped taking his meds,
this seems to be happening alot.

Oh yeah. That will seriously **** you up. I had to stop taking meds because my insurance ran out (yay America) and it was the worst 2/3 weeks ever. You get so low and your sense of rational thinking goes out the window. Idk how I didn’t lose my job. I was like a zombie

…many articles are reporting schizophrenia but it wasn’t undiagnosed…he has apparently diagnosed at 17yrs old and was known to the police authorities…I haven’t personally read anything about him not taking his medication recently but that could be so if it has been reported…

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That's great news to hear, Kazanne.:)

I hope that the families of the victims are getting the support that they need during this time.

In his father's own words on why he targeted women: "Because he wanted a girlfriend, he had no social skills and he was very frustrated".

So yes of course he was also mentally ill, but this is 100% an incel-motivated attack and I would be very, very surprised if there aren't incel groups and boards in his Internet history.

For me that makes this 100% terrorism. Attacks on women driven by Internet ideologies and indoctrination are terrorism. Pure and simple. As surely as any religion.

Yeah, I can agree with that. FBI needs to keep tabs on these kinds of ‘people’

They just said on LBC the father effectively said "if these women had given him a little sex then this would not have happened"

The lady on now (scouser) called it Mysogenistic Terrorism

She's not wrong.

It seems like the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Disgusting attitude

The Old Dad of this killer
has spoken on the news

I wish a Reporter asked
if he was the supervisor of his son's medication.


As the Evil Killer
did not take it,

You can become a British citizen and opt out of shaking hands with a woman. Should we really be inviting those opposed to female dignitaries to our shores?

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https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1779886836103438743

The BIB sounds like me.:joker:

With how many women were victims of this attack we have all got to be a little bit suspicious that it might've been Incel ideology playing a part, at the very least.

With someone suffering from mental illness, there is just no point in trying to attach reasoning to it. He probably woke up that morning and thought it was a good idea

"I never falsely suggested anything," Simeon Boikov tells me.

Under the alter ego "Aussie Cossack", he posted untrue speculation that a 20-year-old Jewish university student was the attacker who had stabbed and killed five women and one man at a Westfield shopping centre in Sydney.

He said on X: "Unconfirmed reports identify the Bondi attacker as Benjamin Cohen. Cohen? Really? And to think so many commentators tried to initially blame Muslims."

The actual attacker, shot dead by police, was later identified as Joel Cauchi, 40. The authorities say his actions were most probably related to his mental health.

Within hours of Mr Boikov's post on X, the false claims he amplified had reached hundreds of thousands of people on X and Telegram, and had even been repeated by a national news outlet.

I tracked him down because I want to understand how his posts triggered an online frenzy that reached the mainstream media - with serious consequences for Mr Cohen, who's described his distress at being accused of an attack he had nothing to do with.

Mr Boikov is speaking to me from the Russian consulate in Sydney, to where he fled more than a year ago after a warrant was issued over his arrest for alleged assault. The pro-Kremlin social media personality was granted Russian citizenship by Russian President Vladimir Putin last year - and has requested political asylum in Russia.

He wasn't the first user to mention the name Benjamin Cohen. It appeared to originate on a small account sharing almost exclusively anti-Israel content.

This is one of the ways disinformation now spreads.

Full story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-68822846

You literally couldn't make it up

Utter madness


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We’re just back from the US and it seemed much easier to get into the UK than the damn States .


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…..and as the article states, that disinformation is spread in different tangents and directions…which is sadly often the way…I often say that ‘voices get lost…’…and what actually gets lost in it all is the truth…lost in the agenda of political stuff etc…

In parallel, false claims were circulating that the attacker was Muslim. These were shared by prominent journalists and political accounts on X with hundreds of thousands of followers from the UK to the US.
British journalist and presenter Julia Hartley-Brewer suggested the stabbings were "another terror attack by another Islamist terrorist", while TV presenter Rachel Riley said it was part of a "Global Intifada". They both later retracted their posts.
Hartley-Brewer posted that she had been "incorrect" and that the Sydney massacre "was not an Islamist terror attack", while Riley said she was "sorry" if her message had been "misunderstood".
Dozens of accounts on TikTok also spread false claims that the attacker was Muslim. I messaged several of them - but they haven't responded.

…and interestingly, it continues in another direction and another path…


New South Wales Police have suggested the real attacker, Cauchi, deliberately targeted women - who make up five out of six of the victims.
Several online forums dedicated to incels - a subculture who define themselves as unable to get a sexual partner, despite desiring one - have praised Cauchi as one of their own for the attack.
But so far there's no concrete evidence of Cauchi being involved directly with these online movements. When asked why Cauchi could have targeted women, his father said that his son had "wanted a girlfriend" and that had had "no social skills and was frustrated out of his brain".
Increasingly, attacks in the real world are being followed by this kind of social media frenzy - where misinformation is hugely amplified.
For the families and friends of those who have been killed, and the innocent bystanders falsely accused, this toxic rumour-mill is causing serious harm.


….it may indeed be ‘incel idealogy’…but nothing atm has been confirmed and associated as that being so until investigations reveal such…I read that the killer’s parents were ‘estranged’ so even though, his father has intimated certain things…or things he’s said could lead to certain thoughts…atm, it’s essentially all hearsay and surmising in what seems to be a need for labels to be applied…

…anyway, we’ll wait to see what is uncovered and revealed over the coming time…this is why personally I’m so focused on checking out everything that’s posted online atm…

a pro-Kremlin social media personality

now that is a thing!

:laugh:

my dad's uncle had lived in the area of that shopping centre

The difference is some poor kid was actually named and his name falsely circulated....there were only 'suggestions' it was an Islamic terror attack, no one was named, and it is only human to immediately think Islamic given the nature of the attack similar to how immediately it would have been concluded it was an IRA attack if a bomb when off in the 70s in England and no one batted an eyelid

…but that doesn’t change that these are all threads and paths of disinformation and how easily that travels into mindsets, which once fixed can often then close down to what is the truth…it’s all very equally contributory to very harmful false information…and sadly what is all too often in present times…

…it seems like a good and fair article because it does show ‘in parallel’ as it says, the different threads of the false claims of this story…and how they’re essentially still continuing with no investigations being completed yet…

The media are presented with a breaking story and they have to address the elephant in the room that it might be an Islamic attack, it was only last week that ISIS said they were going to attack the Champions League games so they are really the most vocal group and the top of everyones mindset, not sure when there was an attack of a similar nature by a Jew so to randomly suggest it was a Jewish attack and actually name someone is far more sinister

That's even more terrifying in some ways.

Giving the benefit of the doubt, "not applying labels" and dismissing things as random, motiveless acts from people with mental health problems is exactly what allows misogynistic rhetoric to continue thriving online and continue propagating amongst mentally unstable men. An almost impassioned determination not to call it what it is: extremist ideology and terrorism.

No one is saying this guy was mentally healthy nor that he was acting with a clear mind and fully aware of his motivations. But mentally unwell people do NOT regularly just go on violent rampages "totally at random for no reason" - that in itself is an idea that leads to the stigmatisation of mental health conditions. The idea that "schizophrenic people are just randomly violent" - it simply isn't true.

Mentally ill people are likely to be far more susceptible to suggestion and to latching onto extreme ideas, for example, the violent misogyny that comes along with the ideology of the "entitled incel", an ideology that is EVERYWHERE these days in really insidious ways, thanks to the likes of Andrew Tate/Jordan Petersson bringing it mainstream. It's not always going to be neatly labelled and something people have to seek out on 4chan. It's an increasingly mainstream mindset. And in my opinion this chap's irrational hatred of women is clear as day.

He only harmed ONE male and it was because that man was trying to stop him. He walked past men in pursuit of women. How much clearer does this need to be? Again not saying he was mentally stable (obviously he was not) or thinking with a clear head, but that's not entirely relevant.

I mean just last week:

"Two stabbed in Bordeaux for drinking wine during Eid

Attacker shot dead by police after frenzied attack in tourist area"

…I really don’t feel for me that one is a more sinister or a less sinister when all disinformation had a sinister and harmful value…no more or less, just differences in specifics…so far as this particular attack, I didn’t personally ever attach ‘ISIS or Islamic’ unless the authorities had informed of that connection because the attacker was wearing sportswear/a rugby jersey and we were informed he was a Queenslander or something and he seemed white Caucasian …so the media that we were receiving reports for weren’t in any way leading to ‘Islamic’ in terms of connection at all…actually it was specifically stated that it wasn’t felt to be terrorism ideology linked…

the grainy footage originally released I couldn't personally make out if he was white or not, I mean he could have easily been Far Right so not sure where the Jewish connection came in, its not like he wasn't wearing a skull cap....why I think it is more sinister is this person was quite happy to name an innocent jewish person who could have easily been attacked before his name was cleared, I am not saying the same couldn't have happened to a muslim person but a direct naming of an innocent is really beyond the pale

Exactly. Women seem to be one group that no one gives a single **** about. All you need to do is take a look on youtube or reddit or twitter to see how mush hatred for women there is out there atm but we're not allowed to talk about that

….we were also specifically told that this person was known to the police authorities, which was also a factor in them stating that they didn’t believe it to be linked to any political ideology…so all in all, ‘Islamic’ is not a link or connection that was led to be the way, it was actually more actively discouraged from being the way in that it specifically wasn’t believed to be so….and yet that association was the first and very active ‘association’ of false and harmful information that I read…no matter what was being said to indicate its unlikelihood…as I said, for me personally …it’s all very dangerous and sinister…one size never fits all or rarely does so there are differences in specifics…but all of equal harm and danger to those and any who are the victims of that false information…..

Tbf I can definitely see your point.

I mean five of the six victims were women (like you've already said) so it definitely wouldn't be far reaching to think that the motivation behind the massacre was of an Incel mindset.

And on a side note, you have to be mentally ill if you're seriously taking Andrew Tate's "advice" on board, and I don't mean that to sound funny either.

Tbf, it is cool to hate on women.:hehe:

But I do see what you mean, because I do look at the extreme right on YouTube sometimes, and they really don't like women, I hear some of the things that they say and it can flaw me tbh.

Although bizarrely on Twitter, I find that it's the far left that have a real grudge with women, it's truly weird.