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arista 23-06-2024 03:51 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06...9148028854.jpg

Masca
a small village on a hill


Searching, going on.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06...9148015965.jpg
New Photo of Jay at the Party
before he went for a walk................


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nish-cops.html

Beso 23-06-2024 10:06 PM

Jay's mum has gone over now.

Shes going on a boat trip today looking for him then shes going to linekers tonight to see if hes in there...

Zizu 24-06-2024 04:44 AM

Family issues urgent appeal after 19-year-old goes missing in Tenerife…
 
Mmmmmmm - any body languages experts around ??


https://x.com/monarizzla/status/1804...300558540?s=46


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Gusto Brunt 24-06-2024 04:50 AM

Surfing the net I see Jay is mostly loathed on social media.

They talk about his criminal past, drugs and that Jay and his mum and his friend have staged his 'disappearance'.

A few saying he's back in the UK hiding in a wardrobe. :shocked:

Mystic Mock 24-06-2024 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11468934)
Surfing the net I see Jay is mostly loathed on social media.

They talk about his criminal past, drugs and that Jay and his mum and his friend have staged his 'disappearance'.

A few saying he's back in the UK hiding in a wardrobe. :shocked:

I'm open minded to the idea.

And tbh it'd be the happier ending.

bots 24-06-2024 06:35 AM

Setting up a gofund account when there is no described function for it is very, very dodgy

If he truly has disappeared/harm has come to him then it will be upsetting for the family, but there is concrete evidence that he was involved in a life of violent crime, so I personally, have zero sympathy for him, and i'm sure most have the same opinion

Gusto Brunt 24-06-2024 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11468935)
I'm open minded to the idea.

And tbh it'd be the happier ending.

It's certainly quite murky, whatever is going on.

Ammi 24-06-2024 06:45 AM

…I have no idea what the truth of any of Jay’s disappearance is…but if there is any aspects of ‘being staged’ or any variation of that then there are so many layers of that…there are so many very valuable and very limited police/authority resources being used up in the search that could possibly be making a difference elsewhere…anyway, let’s see what today brings…

Mystic Mock 24-06-2024 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11468945)
…I have no idea what the truth of any of Jay’s disappearance is…but if there is any aspects of ‘being staged’ or any variation of that then there are so many layers of that…there are so many very valuable and very limited police/authority resources being used up in the search that could possibly be making a difference elsewhere…anyway, let’s see what today brings…

Fair points.

Ammi 24-06-2024 07:01 AM

…with regard to the GoFundMe page/account which apparently has Jay’s family approval…?..I can understand that taking time away from work and travelling to and from Tenerife with accommodation as well etc, will take much financial resource and that help might be needed with that…?…but Jay’s disappearance is only a few days so how is it being thought that many to and from visits might be what the family will be doing…that potentially much time away from employment might be needed and financial help might be needed etc…there are sightings so it’s hoped that he’ll be found safe and well and yet it’s ‘predicted’ to be quite a long period of looking for him…?..I think that I’m beginning to overthink, probably…

Ammi 24-06-2024 07:09 AM

'Picture being painted of Jay Slater is just not true', says employer of British teen missing in Tenerife…


The construction company that employs missing British teenager Jay Slater has said the "picture being painted of him is just not true".

Mr Slater, from Oswaldtwistle near Blackburn in Lancashire, has been missing in Tenerife since Monday morning.

Since he went missing, rumours and conspiracy theories about his disappearance have circulated online, with social media users speculating on platforms including TikTok and Facebook.

But on Sunday, PH Build, which employs Mr Slater as an apprentice bricklayer said the teenager has been misrepresented online.

The firm wrote on Facebook: "Our Jay is still missing!

"We have decided to remove our last post due to all the negative comments and conspiracy theories.

"Jay has been with us since he left school and is liked by all. He's a valued member of our team and we stand by him.

"The picture being painted of him is just not true. The fact is he's a 19-year-old lad missing in a foreign country. He needs to be back home where he belongs. Come on Jay we are all praying for you."


…full article…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/picture-be...113900311.html

Crimson Dynamo 24-06-2024 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11468955)
'Picture being painted of Jay Slater is just not true', says employer of British teen missing in Tenerife…


The construction company that employs missing British teenager Jay Slater has said the "picture being painted of him is just not true".

Mr Slater, from Oswaldtwistle near Blackburn in Lancashire, has been missing in Tenerife since Monday morning.

Since he went missing, rumours and conspiracy theories about his disappearance have circulated online, with social media users speculating on platforms including TikTok and Facebook.

But on Sunday, PH Build, which employs Mr Slater as an apprentice bricklayer said the teenager has been misrepresented online.

The firm wrote on Facebook: "Our Jay is still missing!

"We have decided to remove our last post due to all the negative comments and conspiracy theories.

"Jay has been with us since he left school and is liked by all. He's a valued member of our team and we stand by him.

"The picture being painted of him is just not true. The fact is he's a 19-year-old lad missing in a foreign country. He needs to be back home where he belongs. Come on Jay we are all praying for you."


…full article…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/picture-be...113900311.html

there is no "picture"

that is only in the mind of the employer, id suggest they stay off social media and just concentrate on their work building stuff

arista 24-06-2024 08:35 AM

Yesterday this new photo

Was posted

At the Party before he went on the long walk.............

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06...9148015965.jpg

bots 24-06-2024 09:43 AM

i think the picture was already painted by the judge when he found him guilty

arista 24-06-2024 09:48 AM

SkyNewsHD
reporter out there,
asked why did he
go to the villa with two men?

Zizu 24-06-2024 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11468981)
Yesterday this new photo

Was posted

At the Party before he went on the long walk.............

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06...9148015965.jpg


What is it with all these Brits going on walks then going missing ..


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Gusto Brunt 24-06-2024 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11469001)
What is it with all these Brits going on walks then going missing ..


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They have no sense of direction, I guess.

arista 24-06-2024 11:28 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06...9219218867.jpg

arista 24-06-2024 11:30 AM

[Jay Slater's family hope grainy CCTV shows
missing Brit ten hours after his mobile phone last
pinged before he vanished on Tenerife - as mother fears he'll
'come home in a body bag'

British teenager Jay Slater, 19,
vanished after leaving a nightclub last Monday
Follow MailOnline's live blog
for the latest updates on the search for Jay Slater]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-body-bag.html

user104658 24-06-2024 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11468955)
'Picture being painted of Jay Slater is just not true', says employer of British teen missing in Tenerife…


The construction company that employs missing British teenager Jay Slater has said the "picture being painted of him is just not true".

Mr Slater, from Oswaldtwistle near Blackburn in Lancashire, has been missing in Tenerife since Monday morning.

Since he went missing, rumours and conspiracy theories about his disappearance have circulated online, with social media users speculating on platforms including TikTok and Facebook.

But on Sunday, PH Build, which employs Mr Slater as an apprentice bricklayer said the teenager has been misrepresented online.

The firm wrote on Facebook: "Our Jay is still missing!

"We have decided to remove our last post due to all the negative comments and conspiracy theories.

"Jay has been with us since he left school and is liked by all. He's a valued member of our team and we stand by him.

"The picture being painted of him is just not true. The fact is he's a 19-year-old lad missing in a foreign country. He needs to be back home where he belongs. Come on Jay we are all praying for you."


…full article…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/picture-be...113900311.html

It's complicated of course - all of these things can be true, people are complex and have different aspects of themselves, the kid they know at work can be a completely different person to who he is at the weekend, who can be different again to the son that the parents know, etc. etc. no one version of a person is more "the real person" than another.

Ultimately I do think what has happened is that he's gotten himself involved with some very dodgy goings on - Tenerife has a HUGE problem with organised crime/cartel-style drug dealing, a very dark underbelly - but TBH I also take the employers point that this is just a 19 year old kid at the end of the day, who has some terrible actions in his past and very probably some dangerous and reckless goings on more recently too, but at 19 you can't really say what life might have had in store for him. I don't think it's right to make light of (or in some cases I've seen, celebrate) his probable death.

Like I said before I don't think it'll be all a big fraud/scam, MAYBE he will turn up alive, but I think most likely he's been offed and won't be found. A lot of skeletons a few feet under the dirt in Tenerife.

user104658 24-06-2024 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11469015)
mother fears he'll 'come home in a body bag'

As above, assuming he is dead I think this is actually an optimistic scenario, I honestly think the trail will simply go cold and she'll never even get to bring him home. Being 99% sure that someone you love is gone but never getting the full answer must actually be worse than burying them.

Ammi 24-06-2024 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11469020)
It's complicated of course - all of these things can be true, people are complex and have different aspects of themselves, the kid they know at work can be a completely different person to who he is at the weekend, who can be different again to the son that the parents know, etc. etc. no one version of a person is more "the real person" than another.

Ultimately I do think what has happened is that he's gotten himself involved with some very dodgy goings on - Tenerife has a HUGE problem with organised crime/cartel-style drug dealing, a very dark underbelly - but TBH I also take the employers point that this is just a 19 year old kid at the end of the day, who has some terrible actions in his past and very probably some dangerous and reckless goings on more recently too, but at 19 you can't really say what life might have had in store for him. I don't think it's right to make light of (or in some cases I've seen, celebrate) his probable death.

Like I said before I don't think it'll be all a big fraud/scam, MAYBE he will turn up alive, but I think most likely he's been offed and won't be found. A lot of skeletons a few feet under the dirt in Tenerife.

…it’s a strange one, isn’t it …and obviously so many layers to it all is what we seem to be seeing…so far as the organised crime/drugs etc …in my own very VAST experience of these things…:laugh:…they seem often to be more ‘public’ …rather than a ‘disappearance’…it’s more a world of making violent statements, isn’t it….?…with his employers…?…they would surely have all details of any violent past he has in terms of the justice system…and they’ve chosen to employ him and to make positive statements about his character….so that has to be noted as well….

Liam- 24-06-2024 12:03 PM

A 19 year old black or Asian boy who had avoided prison for caving someone’s head in with a gang of his mates, wouldn’t be getting this much sympathy from the media, nor would his family and friends

arista 24-06-2024 12:37 PM

Some of what she says
is more extreme than what Tibb's Ammi says.


Waitrose shopping in the back of her car.





user104658 24-06-2024 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11469047)
A 19 year old black or Asian boy who had avoided prison for caving someone’s head in with a gang of his mates, wouldn’t be getting this much sympathy from the media, nor would his family and friends

To be fair though that's because the media is inherently racist, not because family and friends SHOULDN'T get sympathy when someone is missing (regardless of who or what they are).

arista 24-06-2024 12:45 PM

This Image is a Terrible Remix
posted on X.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQ1nJJaX...jpg&name=small

Zizu 24-06-2024 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11469047)
A 19 year old black or Asian boy who had avoided prison for caving someone’s head in with a gang of his mates, wouldn’t be getting this much sympathy from the media, nor would his family and friends


I haven’t been following this too closely at all

Is that what this kid has done in the past?

He mum and employer are portraying him as a proper nice lad !!!!??


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arista 24-06-2024 12:53 PM

Last Monday he was at a Rave
ITV1HD Lunch News just showed a video of him
at that rave

But still no sign of him yet.

Ammi 24-06-2024 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11469077)
Some of what she says
is more extreme than what Tibb's Ammi says.


Waitrose shopping in the back of her car.





…:laugh:…I haven’t listened to what she said but surely it can’t be THAT extreme to be on a level with my extreme views…tell me it isn’t so…

…(…I would rarely click on anything she says, though…)…

Cherie 24-06-2024 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11469077)
Some of what she says
is more extreme than what Tibb's Ammi says.


Waitrose shopping in the back of her car.






That was funny tbf, Dominos will probably give her a gig now

smudgie 24-06-2024 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11469077)
Some of what she says
is more extreme than what Tibb's Ammi says.


Waitrose shopping in the back of her car.





God forbid anything nast ever happens to her or her family.
Heartless comment

Crimson Dynamo 24-06-2024 03:39 PM

Really interesting theories by a Brit who used to live on the island!

https://www.tiktok.com/@darthunicorn...136288?lang=en

arista 24-06-2024 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11469132)
…:laugh:…I haven’t listened to what she said but surely it can’t be THAT extreme to be on a level with my extreme views…tell me it isn’t so…

…(…I would rarely click on anything she says, though…)…


She is going on about speak your mind.

And says Jay was wrong on

Mentions Class A
Drugs

Zizu 25-06-2024 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11469084)
This Image is a Terrible Remix
posted on X.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQ1nJJaX...jpg&name=small


I just realised it’s fake LOL

Thought he looked familiar !!


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Cherie 25-06-2024 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11469179)
Really interesting theories by a Brit who used to live on the island!

https://www.tiktok.com/@darthunicorn...136288?lang=en

He has reiterated all my thoughts about this case

Ammi 25-06-2024 07:02 AM

…I think what’s true in the world we live in…with a huge ‘event’ in a family’s lives such as this, which gains so much media attention etc…there are two main nightmare layers to cope with…one is obviously the search itself…the other is the cruelty of social media …both very destroying, I would imagine…

Denver 25-06-2024 11:25 AM

Some things I want to point out

Both Brad and Lucy claim to have been the last to speak to him before his battery died but how is that possible?

Why is Brads mom in charge if a fb group and oart of the search and doing everything in her power to clear her sons name who has already flown home which is weird if you so called childhood best freind is missing.
The man who rented the air bnb was Lucy step dad

Why has his mom shown zero emotion and kept pushing the fact he was kidnapped with no proof at that time

Why do they need 30k but have not said what for? They are getting free food and accommodation in Spain.

Lucy and her step dad are known drugs mules in the area.
Was he even in the mountains to start? It seems suspicious that they have found no evidence or the dogs have been unable to find his scent anywhere or any blood from the leg injury he apparently had.

Why did his freinds allow him to go with strangers when he was clearly in no fit state to do so?

Lucy is freinds with Tom (who may I add is a pedo so please no sympathy) who ws attacked by a group Jay was involved in and he was in Tenerife at the time he
was missing.

Why are they not searching other places that they have been spottings of him.

Lucy started a gofund me last year for another man who went missing in the same area who was then found a week later beaten.

If he is mixed up in drugs than he is no longer in tenerife and is either being held hostage in Morocco or his body was dumped in the middle of the sea.

There was a boat that left the port near where he was apparently last seen at around the same time then turned its tracker off.

My gut feelings is it is all a scam to make money especially when his social media was logged into and im not buying the fact he told his mom all his passwords and you would need his phone to access it.

I also feel that he had nothing tk do with the missing drugs but is being blamed as an easy target.

Also a possibility its a revenge attack and I wouldn't entirely rule out being a victim of human trafficking

arista 25-06-2024 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11469401)
He has reiterated all my thoughts about this case

Yes I would put him on TV talking about it

Niamh. 25-06-2024 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11469489)
Some things I want to point out

Both Brad and Lucy claim to have been the last to speak to him before his battery died but how is that possible?

The man who rented the air bnb was Lucy step dad

Why has his mom shown zero emotion and kept pushing the fact he was kidnapped with no proof at that time

Why do they need 30k but have not said what for? They are getting free food and accommodation in Spain.

Lucy and her step dad are known drugs mules in the area.
Was he even in the mountains to start? It seems suspicious that they have found no evidence or the dogs have been unable to find his scent anywhere or any blood from the leg injury he apparently had.

Why did his freinds allow him to go with strangers when he was clearly in no fit state to do so?

Lucy is freinds with Tom (who may I add is a pedo so please no sympathy) who ws attacked by a group Jay was involved in and he was in Tenerife at the time he
was missing.

Why are they not searching other places that they have been spottings of him.

Lucy started a gofund me last year for another man who went missing in the same area who was then found a week later beaten.

If he is mixed up in drugs than he is no longer in temerity and is either being held hostage in Morocco or his body was dumped in the middle of the sea.

There was a boat that left the port near where he was apparently last seen at around the same time then turned its tracker off.

My gut feelings is it is all a scam to make money especially when his social media was logged into and im not buying the fact he told his mom all his passwords and you would need his phone to access it.

I also feel that he had nothing tk do with the missing drugs but is being blamed as an easy target.

Also a possibility its a revenge attack and I wouldn't entirely rule out being a victim of human trafficking

Yes, there's something very very odd about this whole thing

bots 25-06-2024 11:39 AM

they know his phone was in that park area because it pinged from there when he made the calls


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