A lot of TLOU players absolutely hate Abby and hated being "forced to" play as Abby after she killed Joel... and I actually think that's a big part of why and what made the game so interesting and something very different; you play through the whole first game AS Joel and as you say, he's the one you're keeping alive, he's the guy who represents YOU and who you're playing as... and then in the 2nd game you play for a bit as Ellie, and then a little bit as Abby when she's introduced and you fight alongside Joel... and THEN the scene comes where Abby kills Joel with Ellie forced to watch. It's so jarring I think specifically because of that firs game being all playing as Joel... and now this new character who you've played as has killed him :umm2:. Then you play something like a whole 6+ hours as Ellie, then it pulls a massive twist and you play through that same 3 days you've just seen from Ellie's perspective as Abby again. People really did not like it at all and resented playing as her, there was so much anger about it online :joker:. It might be a bit lessened in the show since it's just "watching" from Abby's perspective, rather than actually "being Abby".

When I played the game I was devastated.. but it sets the premise for the rest of it, and it has some really beautiful parts to come if the show follows true to the game.

Love the ending, showing the overgrown City
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…it’s a bit was a good episode…the opening conveyed the sadness so well that was felt at the loss of Joel…the episode really put the breaks on after last week but it was just what was needed and Ellie’s pleading her case for justice for Joel was heartbreaking…</3…

I loved the part where Ellie's face changed as she was exiting the hospital, from relaxed and friendly to absolutely furious! I am surprised her and Dina haven't canoodled yet either! Their relationship is going a lot slower than the game!

I reckon they are defo going to split the story from the game into two or 3 seasons, as there’s so much to cover with both ladies and their journeys.

…yeah, even from the very beginning when Joel’s brother was bathing him, I kept getting flashbacks of what he would have been seeing under the cover and that was incredibly emotional …I think that it would have been too much to cope with an episode anything other than it was after last week…we needed this time to gather ourselves…

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the guy chained up that Isaac was torturing

…aha, that’s why I missed it …I didn’t look at the screen for that bit/I find torture difficult ….it’s good that you all were on it, though…so to speak…….

Dont know why but I was a bit underwhelmed by last nights episode, think I would have liked them to realise how many Wolves they are up against, they seem to be a bit oblivious :laugh:

…i thought that it was a very dramatic and shocking moment at the beginning when he put the grenades into the van and closed the doors…that wasn’t something that I saw coming…


…it’s also an interesting dynamic that Ellie is becoming more the ‘protector’ in her mindset because of Dina’s pregnancy…whereas she’s always more been the protected to Joel’s protector role toward her…

they are oblivious about both the seraphites and the wolves, I think they're trying to portsy that!

I just rewatched the second half of the game over the past few days and jeeze, they barely have enough episodes left for anything

…I mean…there are no bad guys/they’re all bad guys…I feel so aggrieved that Joel was singled out by psycho Abbie when everyone is doing what they need to do to survive…

She was one of the rare situations where she actually had a biological relative left and they had a close relationship, Joel and Ellie weren't even related and she's out murdering for him!

…it’s all a very layered psychology because Abbie also knew that her father had been killed to rescue/save Ellie so she was aware of another strong emotional bond in a world of there being no good people or bad people, they were all just doing what they needed to do…

Yeah my son said that too, they are literally flying through the game

I strongly suspect they're going to end the season at the end of "Ellie's Seattle journey" and then reset to Seattle Day 1 and show Abby's story as a whole separate season. Either that or they're going to condense her part down to one episode... which frankly would be a terrible decision.

Tbf though the game has a lot more content to keep you occupied as you’re playing it. If they did it like for like just to watch the episodes, would be quite slow for a lot of it.

Well... as they cover quite well in the game and show... Joel actually didn't have to kill Abby's dad (the doctor). He definitely had to kill the fireflies who were trying to stop him from getting to the operating room, but he could have gotten Ellie out without killing the medical team.

...I say the whole team because in the original game I killed the doc plus both nurses before the cutscene even triggered :joker:. Guess I'm worse than Joel :shrug:.

…I have to say in the context of a game, I would have cleared everyone standing off that screen as well…I like your style…

… so well timed of Jesse…:laugh:…he came from nowhere just when they needed someone to come from nowhere…the end scene was brutal…:/….

They jumped quite a bit ahead in the game. Nora doesn’t get killed until much later originally. Ellie kills one of the others first in a more brutal/revengeful fashion

…I wonder if we are going to get episode(s) through the eyes of Abby and through her path or whether the series storyline will follow Dina’s words of …it doesn’t matter what Joel did, brutal revenge is all there is…

I reckon that will be season 3, Abby’s story

…I just felt a bit sickened at the end scene because I wanted Ellie to be more Joel-like than Abby-like in the torturous killing method…

…I loved the very last few seconds that feel as though next week will all be in retrospect of Ellie and Joel’s bond and in brighter times…remembering him in life, rather than in torturous death…

Yeah, we were due a Joel episode. It’s gonna be a sad episode.

…I know, I know…we’re going to lose him all over again…https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...ixsP/giphy.gif