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arista 11-01-2025 06:47 PM

The Cut Backs on Firemem/Women

Is to blame for some of this.

thesheriff443 11-01-2025 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11598175)
The Cut Backs on Firemem/Women

Is to blame for some of this.

Not people starting fires deliberately then ?

arista 11-01-2025 06:52 PM

Reports Up High Power lines
were Sparking just before this deadly Fire Started


Power lines now
in some zones are built underground
since the Fire in 2018.


CNN HD Nick Watt Report.

arista 11-01-2025 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11598176)
Not people starting fires deliberately then ?


One did.



But it now appears those Up High Power Lines
were sparking just before the start of the First Fire

Crimson Dynamo 11-01-2025 07:07 PM

The uber woke california governer newsome cant survive this abject sh1t show

surely??

Ammi 12-01-2025 06:55 AM

https://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-c...aefe6__700.jpg

Ammi 12-01-2025 06:56 AM

https://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-c...b1283__700.jpg

arista 12-01-2025 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11598066)
Anyone got the feeling that these fires were started deliberately? We may have some arsonists at work.....


Yes one



But there are these horrid
High-Up Electric Power Lines
that keep sparking
so a spark from one of them
is suspected as the start of the first fire

arista 12-01-2025 09:22 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/01...6668688567.jpg

[Fury against ‘wasteful, entitled’ celebrities grew
last night as stars including Kim Kardashian,
were accused of squandering vital water
resources that could have been
used to save homes.

Strict water-conserving measures have been
in place since 2022, with ‘ordinary’ residents
restricted to watering their gardens twice a
week for eight minutes at a time.

Ms Kardashian, who lives in a $60 million
house in The Oaks – an exclusive gated community
near the epicentre of one of this
week’s fires – was fined by city authorities that
year for using 232,000 gallons of water more
than her allocation.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ter-rules.html

arista 12-01-2025 09:24 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/01...6638744683.jpg

Meanwhile many Helicopters
and planes are trying to slow down the fires
still burning away.

Vanessa 12-01-2025 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11598302)
Yes one



But there are these horrid
High-Up Electric Power Lines
that keep sparking
so a spark from one of them
is suspected as the start of the first fire

The Los Angeles fires have definitely been started deliberately. People have even filmed them starting fires. Group of kids.

arista 12-01-2025 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11598344)
The Los Angeles fires have definitely been started deliberately. People have even filmed them starting fires. Group of kids.


Could be

Also these Sparks from Power Lines
up on on posts

Glenn. 12-01-2025 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11598344)
The Los Angeles fires have definitely been started deliberately. People have even filmed them starting fires. Group of kids.

Obviously Vanessa

arista 12-01-2025 03:17 PM

29 arrests now

Robert Luna LA County Sherriff
walked over to a Fireman to see why he was sitting down

He was not a Fireman
git was Handcuffed
he was a thief dressed as a Fireman.


Good the Cops Caught that bugger


Robert Luna LA County Sherriff talking Live

SkyNewsHD

arista 12-01-2025 03:56 PM

14 confirmed dead
but 16 people are missing.

In 8 Days or so President-Elect Trump will
visit the damaged zones,

They hope by then all fires are gone?

Gusto Brunt 12-01-2025 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11598475)
14 confirmed dead
but 16 people are missing.

In 8 Days or so President-Elect Trump will
visit the damaged zones,

They hope by then all fires are gone?

You'd expect fires as wild and widespread as those would have had over 100 deaths. At least. Some people have been very lucky.

arista 12-01-2025 04:00 PM

Also,
the Fire Chief Anthony Marrone
said Social Media posts
claiming the Red Powder Fire Retardent is dangerous,
are sinister and not correct.

He said they are all safe to use.

arista 12-01-2025 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11598478)
You'd expect fires as wild and widespread as those would have had over 100 deaths. At least. Some people have been very lucky.


It still can be that
as Dogs will go in
sniffing for all the dead

arista 12-01-2025 04:07 PM

Loads of people lined up,
to go back to their homes still standing,
the line is half a mile long
has now been suspended.

The Fire Crew can no longer spare
their crew,

They wanted to get Medicines
in their home



Also many Gas mains are still alight.



Live CNN HD Worldwide

Gusto Brunt 12-01-2025 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11598485)
It still can be that
as Dogs will go in
sniffing for all the dead

Ah...never thought of that.

arista 12-01-2025 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11598494)
Ah...never thought of that.


Great use of Special Dogs.

arista 12-01-2025 04:13 PM

Update
16 are Dead

16 are missing

29 Criminals Arrested

Maru 12-01-2025 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11598478)
You'd expect fires as wild and widespread as those would have had over 100 deaths. At least. Some people have been very lucky.

It's not uncommon for deaths to be undercounted. It happens during hurricanes, etc.

Crimson Dynamo 12-01-2025 06:18 PM

joke
 
Gavin Newsom: All our water reservoirs are full!

Reporter: Actually one reservoir was empty

Gavin Newsom: Oh yeah we’re investigating that


:skull:

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1878510752275050961

arista 12-01-2025 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11598562)
Gavin Newsom: All our water reservoirs are full!

Reporter: Actually one reservoir was empty

Gavin Newsom: Oh yeah we’re investigating that


:skull:

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1878510752275050961


Typical of Gavin

arista 13-01-2025 12:31 AM

It was around 7 Fires or more,
now 3 Fires are still burning strong.

arista 13-01-2025 12:38 AM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...13b0f6668c.png

Gusto Brunt 13-01-2025 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11598552)
It's not uncommon for deaths to be undercounted. It happens during hurricanes, etc.

Yes, looks like the deaths are now climbing. :(

Ammi 13-01-2025 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11598705)
Yes, looks like the deaths are now climbing. :(

…I read that the death toll is now at 24 confirmed…and also that the winds are intensifying so just continuing to devastate and grow…the images are horrific, we couldn’t begin to imagine being surrounded by that sort of living horror…

Gusto Brunt 13-01-2025 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11598707)
…I read that the death toll is now at 24 confirmed…and also that the winds are intensifying so just continuing to devastate and grow…the images are horrific, we couldn’t begin to imagine being surrounded by that sort of living horror…

It's Hell on Earth there. :(

arista 13-01-2025 03:28 PM

LA County District Attorney Nathan Hochman

In the big press conference

Talking about the Criminals he will Jail.


Criminals taking Cash
from people claiming it is for the
the 92,000 that need help

He will Jail them.

arista 13-01-2025 04:07 PM

Simon Cowell
spoke on Ch5HDnews

He is going to give a Donation

Good on you King Simon.

arista 14-01-2025 12:46 PM

Amazing Fires Still Burning
And soon Powerful winds are due to return.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 14-01-2025 02:30 PM

Biden to give $770 payout to victims. I honestly thought this was a joke. What is going on. Meanwhile they keep sending millions to Ukraine!!! They're all in it together and something else is happening in Ukraine!!

bots 14-01-2025 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 11599121)
Biden to give $770 payout to victims. I honestly thought this was a joke. What is going on. Meanwhile they keep sending millions to Ukraine!!! They're all in it together and something else is happening in Ukraine!!

It's the republicans in congress that are refusing to pay any money to california. Bidens hands are tied on it, he cannot fund any payment without their support

arista 14-01-2025 04:30 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/01...6873393007.jpg

arista 14-01-2025 04:35 PM

LA's lowlifes: The 'looters, burglars and
drug addicts' arrested during Palisades Fire
all share common trait


[Dozens of people accused of looting
homes and stores in the ritzy
Pacific Palisades enclave of LA during the deadly
fires have been pictured in police mugshots.
Cops charged more than 40 detainees
with various offenses including burglary
and drug possession since the fires
broke out on January 7.

Remarkably, none of those arrested
were actually living in the evacuation zone
and seemingly travelled with the intention
of taking advantage of the devastation.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mon-trait.html

Maru 14-01-2025 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 11599121)
Biden to give $770 payout to victims. I honestly thought this was a joke. What is going on. Meanwhile they keep sending millions to Ukraine!!! They're all in it together and something else is happening in Ukraine!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11599124)
It's the republicans in congress that are refusing to pay any money to california. Bidens hands are tied on it, he cannot fund any payment without their support

One reason we have so many insurance companies leaving disaster-prone areas is because federal money enables mismanagement of maintenance districts and misplaced funds. The money NEVER makes it to the people. If that person has any kind of valid insurance, it's an automatic denial. So even if State Farm, etc, offers a pittance, they're SOL.

If it's not covered, one has to get a denial letter from their insurance carrier which causes a $0 claim which WILL skyrocket their rates. It's not worth it only to be denied by FEMA or only to get the $770 quoted.

We always get "fully funded" where we are and the money goes straight to City Hall/local politicians where they get to disappear it. The massive numbers go to local governments and "loans". Sometimes the local govt will create programs, take some applications and cry there needs to be changes (building of reservoirs, more crisis mgmt, etc), but then almost never follow up on any of those things. Maybe one or two houses are fixed to make it seem like it's just taking time, but it never gets to the people and by time it's forgotten, the money is already gone.

FEMA itself will do "grants", but they're rare. Most people are stuck with SBA loans instead to pay off their own disaster (at a very low rate, but still). They consider that "assistance"... and then the applicant still has to deal with their homeowners insurance jumping up in rates because they have to "prove" they can't cover a flood which no primary insurer does... FEMA is a scam. Congress is a scam. "Disaster assistance" is a scam... and the $7XX payout is the typical shut up money that we can expect from our politicians to kick the can down the road.

So no. It's not "Republicans". It's all of them. :laugh: Part of the reason we keep having to raise the debt ceiling is because of these payouts. No one wants them to stop because it's easier to budget when one doesn't have to consider a potential disaster. It's better to wait until the aftermath that way they can take the federal govt handout. What taxpayer in a disaster is going to say no to "disaster assistance". It needs to stop.

Maru 14-01-2025 06:37 PM

More examples...

Flood insurance program mismanagement
(Fast forward to 10:00 if you want to save time for the main argument&rebuttal)


13 Investigates learns more Houston-area homes are repeatedly flooding
https://abc13.com/post/13-investigat...ding/14891909/

^^ The above is more common than some think. The Flood district (which we pay a specific tax towards) here has bought out plots, and at least in one case I can think of a whole subdivision, with their funding and turned the neighborhoods/blocks back to proper flood plains... no concrete, housing, just trees and fields...in other words, it's somewhere else for the water to go into the ground rather than downstream into other people's home... and the homes of people who once lived there...

FEMA claims used to be more rare here when I was growing up. It was considered reserved for those who didn't have the means to recover, people living in apartment, single parent families, etc... then media started to encourage everyone to apply for it everytime a storm came through and politicians started to beg for more "help". The city didn't get as much scrutiny as long as the checks cleared, so they stopped doing critical maintenance or oversight was lessened. It was never designed to "bail out" individuals who live in disaster prone areas where the local governments aren't doing the necessary work to maintain their district.

FEMA had to come into our area when we had two major longstanding power outages in our city last year. They shouldn't have had to do that, but both the city/state/local utility ignored vegetation... oh, just like in CA... and the overgrown/unmanaged vegetation (mostly trees) during the Derecho storm which was worse than the hurricane.. but then the subsequent Cat 1 Hurricane (which was mild by our standards) obliterated parts of a poorly managed grid due to overgrown vegetation... and so many people suffered and some died because they weren't told the truth about why this was still happening. They thought their leaders had it. Many couldn't even get access to up to date information because the power had knocked out cell. So too many people sat around thinking their power would just "be back" soon... some people stayed in very dangerous temperatures to protect their homes and some did not make it out. If we all knew our grid was this mismanaged or our city was so unprepared, most of us would've purchased generators and in the very least, would not have filled the fridge up with food which is the usual thing to do before a storm comes from. My immediate neighbors all have power generation now (including us), so at least we've learned our lesson.

arista 16-01-2025 01:36 AM

Mexico and Canada
are helping with the LA Fires.
Good of them to give Firemen.


Even the Ukraine Leader
has offered to help.


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