Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 11624216)

The whole reason he started it was because she said she liked girls so he wouldn't say it about a straight girl. You could see him seething the second she answered his question.

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11624222)

You definitely cant see him seething as his face is so botoxed and plastic it shows no visible sign of emotion

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11624210)

…the thing with ‘jokes’ is that they have to be a two way thing…what’s intended and what’s taken…and JoJo was upset/in tears after the interaction because for her it wasn’t a joke…there are lots of layers/levels of it that wouldn’t have been a joke for many people, I think…and there was something said on the late show that was very thought provocative of it all…that from the LGBT community, lesbian’s can be targeted so much and are so vulnerable…JoJo had said that she would still be a lesbian and that she would still be in a relationship with her partner etc…so if we took away the fact that she was a lesbian…?…and Mickey had inferred that he would have sex with her and tie her up even for that to happen…?…would it be acceptable to say that to a female in an established relationship, would that be ok and just a jokey thing also…joking or not, he had a warning because his words were unacceptable, whatever level they came from…

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11624182)

I'm hoping that he meant that Ella or Angelica had volunteered to have Fifty Shades Of Grey styled sex with Jojo, but he got tongue tied and made himself look like the creep.:sad:

Originally Posted by Ray. (Post 11624199)

It was so obviously a joke, I don't think many are in doubt of that. The real trouble arose when he apologised or was attempting to, and she tried to further explain to him why she found it so offensive, which he then seemed to take as her twisting the knife further and lording it over him. That's when things went way off the rails for them both.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11624238)

It was all said tongue in cheek ( as he explained later ) plus he was smiling all the time

I think it was probably just his sense of humour that didn’t quite hit the mark


Then that comment suggesting that he could turn her given a few more days is something straight guys have always said jokingly to or about lesbians .. its that old fashioned / outdated style of humour

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11624240)

He was definitely joking, you can see him laughing.He probably got angry as well and things escalated.
Then he apologized.
I don't think they see eye to eye.

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 11624201)

Jokes can still be bullying, jokes can still be homophobic, jokes can still be predatory. It was a joke to HIM. Other people smiled with discomfort and out of shock but zero of the others laughed with him. Age or fame doesn't give anyone a free pass for anything, people should only be respected if they respect others.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11624204)

Tbf jokes are fine imo, it's the other persons problem if they're getting offended by a joke I personally feel.

I personally do doubt if Mickey was really joking though, I suspect that he was looking for a reaction from Jojo, but it escalated further than he was expecting.

I think that Mickey is trying to be the troll of the Season.:laugh:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11624212)

…even if it was intended as a ‘joke’, he did let it slip that he didn’t like JoJo and JoJo was the one who he decided to lay that joke with…it feels that whether he intended to offend or not…?…he really had no care that he did because it was directed at someone that he didn’t like very much…

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11624240)

He was definitely joking, you can see him laughing.He probably got angry as well and things escalated.
Then he apologized.
I don't think they see eye to eye.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11624242)

Yes THAT is the moment it really went downhill .. he could/should have handled the situation far better

That said we don’t know his mindset at that moment .. he had just been given a serious shock / warning by BB … he was presumably upset / annoyed/ confused / jet lagged / anxious being surrounded by everyone and maybe if JoJo had waited an hour or so to ‘educate’ him then things could have been soooo different

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11624243)

…that sort of ‘humour’ is something that you would have to know someone very well to know how they would take it and that it wouldn’t offend…he not only doesn’t know JoJo but inferred that he wasn’t keen on her …and if you’re saying that it’s something that’s specifically said about lesbians…?…then it’s targeting and it’s prejudice and there’s no two ways with that so a warning was absolutely the correct call…

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11624248)

Everything had blown up out of proportion by then though PLUS he’d had a couple of people telling him that he couldn’t say this or that .. he himself may have felt intimidated at that time

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11624251)

You are assuming he’s a straight forward character living a normal life style and will behave accordingly


It is clear that he is far from that

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11624250)

…maybe if he had waited until he and JoJo knew each other well and ensure that she realised that he was joking…everything stemmed from that and his words and interaction that made her feel upset and uncomfortable and she would also be upset, annoyed, confused, jet lagged and anxious in that moment…

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11624253)

…I’m assuming nothing, Zizu…I know nothing of him or his lifestyle etc but that doesn’t change anything of what was said…I’m not sure if you’re assuming that it would or does but I’m not…

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11624255)

Part of me wonders why such a confident, supposedly high achieving, flamboyant person was apparently made to feel upset and uncomfortable .. over a few tongue in cheek comments

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11624262)

…maybe the other part of you could try to wonder why he would make the comments he did to a young woman who he has no knowledge of at all in terms of her confidence or any other aspect of her life or character…I mean, he’s confident and flamboyant Mickey Rourke, why would an hour be waited as a better time to talk to him over a few tongue and cheek comments…

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11624268)

If we saw more than 20 minutes of footage out of every 24 hours then I could probably tell you

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11624270)

…and yet you didn’t need the rest of that 24 footage to wonder why someone would feel upset and uncomfortable at a directed upsetting and uncomfortable remark….

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11624273)

Completely different imho

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11624286)

He was warned for calling her a lesbian. Is she not a lesbian?

He was so clearly joking and she's too young and stupid to know. She cried ffs... If they're the hurtiest words she ever hears I hope she never joins TiBB.

Originally Posted by Abra (Post 11624291)

He called her a fag.

I swear some people will bend over backwards to excuse homophobia. His behaviour was completely out of line and there's no excuse that works. It's not the same as a light hearted joke at all.

For a 21 year old young woman to go into the house and just hours later be called the most extreme homophobic slur, she had every right to be upset and she actually handled the situation a lot better than the washed up bully who tried to humiliate her.

Originally Posted by Abra (Post 11624291)

He called her a fag.

I swear some people will bend over backwards to excuse homophobia. His behaviour was completely out of line and there's no excuse that works. It's not the same as a light hearted joke at all.

For a 21 year old young woman to go into the house and just hours later be called the most extreme homophobic slur, she had every right to be upset and she actually handled the situation a lot better than the washed up bully who tried to humiliate her.

Originally Posted by Abra (Post 11624291)

He called her a fag.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11624286)

He was warned for calling her a lesbian. Is she not a lesbian?

He was so clearly joking and she's too young and stupid to know. She cried ffs... If they're the hurtiest words she ever hears I hope she never joins TiBB.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11624300)

Something doesn’t add up .. if she is supposedly the Queen of the internet with a gazillion followers then she will have been called far , far worse and probably about a few thousand times

It smacks of tactics to get the others and the voting public on HER side

She is obviously very streetwise and clearly knows how these programs work

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11624294)

He's American. Try to find Maru's explanation for the word 'fag', she's one of our American members. Frankly I can't be bothered to engage with this weepy, self-indulgent crap. I've been called names all my life including on thus forum. I don't need to cry on someone's shoulder.

Originally Posted by Abra (Post 11624302)

Oh, please. The mental gymnastics just to support a horrible old man's right to bully a young woman for being gay is so cringeworthy to watch. To try and use the fact he is American as some kind of excuse is laughable. He knew exactly what he was saying.

Not tolerating homophobic slurs is not "self indulgent crap" but letting us know where you stand on the matter.

Quite frankly, you being called names your entire life is irrelevant on the matter. If you were a housemate in Big Brother who had just had the rules explained to you and you were then hours later being called a fa**ot then maybe that argument would have a leg to stand on, but it doesn't.

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11624299)

During Wednesday's (April 9) episode, the Hollywood actor asks US sensation
JoJo: "Where’s the smoke room? Where’s the cigarette room?
Mickey then says: "I need a fag" and then gestures to JoJo and says: "I’m not
talking to you." Chris responds: "Mickey, you can’t say that" but the actor says:
"I know. I was talking about a cigarette."

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11624301)

You seem to have a hard time believing she has many followers. Perhaps a little google search for you to clarify that.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11624303)

Oh blah...

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11624299)

During Wednesday's (April 9) episode, the Hollywood actor asks US sensation
JoJo: "Where’s the smoke room? Where’s the cigarette room?
Mickey then says: "I need a fag" and then gestures to JoJo and says: "I’m not
talking to you." Chris responds: "Mickey, you can’t say that" but the actor says:
"I know. I was talking about a cigarette."

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11624298)

After she shot down his creepy conversation about tying her up and turning her straight and he realised he’d been rejected, he moved on to bullying her by talking everyone he was going to evict the lesbian, twice. Then called her fag.

But it’s ok! It was a joke!

This is the climate on TiBB now. The Right wing hate gay people and people who stick up for minorities. They will excuse anything and any behaviour if it pisses off people that they deem woke.

It’s pathetic.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11624300)

Something doesn’t add up .. if she is supposedly the Queen of the internet with a gazillion followers then she will have been called far , far worse and probably about a few thousand times each flamin day !

It smacks of tactics to get the others and the voting public on HER side

She is obviously very streetwise and clearly knows how these programs work