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kev2k7 23-07-2007 02:54 AM

emily called charley a ******, charley didnt call gerry a pedofile

*Adäm 23-07-2007 08:26 AM

She didn't call him a Paedophile directly, but by saying he sleeps with 15 year old boys, is saying in-directly that he is a Paedophile! Which is just as bad!

It's the same as saying to someone "You steal from shops" which is saying they are a Thief. It's the same difference!

Charley should be removed like Emily was. Both should stay out of the house as they were both wrong. Yes Emily didn't mean what she said in a racially offensive way, but she still said it, therefore she is still wrong.

*Adäm x

Jackie 23-07-2007 08:30 AM

well at least charley got a warning from bb :hello::hello::hello::hello::hello:

*Adäm 23-07-2007 08:31 AM

She didn't!

She didn't even get a warning! All she got was being told her behaviour is being monitored. At no point did she receive a warning!

*Adäm x

Matt 23-07-2007 08:32 AM

She should have been booted out there and then!

lovelyg 23-07-2007 09:21 AM

EMILY SHOULD HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT. She is a pratt, she thought she was being 'street' making friends with a 'cool black girl' she used the horrific n-word, who cares if she 'didn't mean it'. She used a word that has been digrading to many people for years and years. I am a teacher and if someone used that word in my school they would get expelled.

About her wanting to leave the country- exuse me, she doesn't look like she's having such a bad time in heat magazine, topless in the tabliods, she is horrible.

What I would like to know is why th country is being so soft on her, like they have been with racist Danielle Loydd? Because they are pretty. Funny how JAde and Jo O'mera got it worse than Danielle, when in my opinion DAnielle was much worse as she was SO too faced.

If you people don't think Emily has done anything wrong, then god help the state of this country x

LovelyL 23-07-2007 09:22 AM

So if you all think Charley shoulda been kicked out then why shouldn't Emily have been?

bongaleader 23-07-2007 10:10 AM

I do not believe for one second, Charley does not know the legal age requirement for sex. She said that cos she knew immediately she was in trouble by the tone of the BB voice and she used it as a get out of jail card.

The fact she specifically said "15 years olds", to me meant she knew exactly what she was saying and BB knew it. She could have said young boys as Gerry had told her but to maximise the level of hurt she wanted to hurl at him, she deliberately put an age on on her remark. This is a girl who brags about being streetwise so don't tell me she is ignorant of the law.

BB again are at fault here, Emily's defence was ignorance as was Charleys. It's all right saying only one person was hurt here but the whole gay community suffer these slings and arrows and so it reflects on them as well. How would his family have felt hearing that accusasion against there son.

Pedophilia is an odious crime, murderers, rapist's and abusers are often in this category and to be chucked into this group by someone who has set out to cause maximum distress to a fellow HM and then let off by BB is a crime in itself. Being black does not fall into this kind of category. The "N" word is insulting I admit, but child abusers are universally hated and reviled much more.

When I heard it, the first thing I said was she has accused him of being a pedophile and she knew it.

All the crocodile tears were for herself because she realised she came within an inch of being thrown out like Emily.

no1bigbrofan 23-07-2007 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by bongaleader
I do not believe for one second, Charley does not know the legal age requirement for sex. She said that cos she knew immediately she was in trouble by the tone of the BB voice and she used it as a get out of jail card.

The fact she specifically said "15 years olds", to me meant she knew exactly what she was saying and BB knew it. She could have said young boys as Gerry had told her but to maximise the level of hurt she wanted to hurl at him, she deliberately put an age on on her remark. This is a girl who brags about being streetwise so don't tell me she is ignorant of the law.

BB again are at fault here, Emily's defence was ignorance as was Charleys. It's all right saying only one person was hurt here but the whole gay community suffer these slings and arrows and so it reflects on them as well. How would his family have felt hearing that accusasion against there son.

Pedophilia is an odious crime, murderers, rapist's and abusers are often in this category and to be chucked into this group by someone who has set out to cause maximum distress to a fellow HM and then let off by BB is a crime in itself. Being black does not fall into this kind of category. The "N" word is insulting I admit, but child abusers are universally hated and reviled much more.

When I heard it, the first thing I said was she has accused him of being a pedophile and she knew it.

All the crocodile tears were for herself because she realised she came within an inch of being thrown out like Emily.
:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

Crystal-Rose 23-07-2007 10:25 AM

She should have been evicted for this i feel its much worse than what emily done, i dont think she realised how serious that statement was she said gerry could get in serious trouble because of her saying that let alone the issue behind it, it was out of order and her excuses for saying it were pathetic the sooner she gets out the better :bored:

sarahtheangel 23-07-2007 11:11 AM

hear hear no1bigbrofan:xyxwave::hello: well done !!!!

Billy 23-07-2007 11:23 AM

can I just say, what offended you more, hearing Emily say wat she said, or hearing Charley?

Stu 23-07-2007 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by lovelyg
the horrific n-word
So does MTV. Id like to think Big Brother has more influence but im gonna have to go with MTV.

Wildcat! 23-07-2007 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
can I just say, what offended you more, hearing Emily say wat she said, or hearing Charley?

I found them both offensive, just like I found Gerry asking Amanda if she has ever given a handjob! But Emilys was an offense to be ejected. Gerry antagonised Charley, and was purposely winding charley up, after she had just lost her best friend in the house. He knew what he was doing, sucking his thimb and such, saying they preffered me to her etc.... He was trying to get a raise out of charley, and he got it!

By the way I love your new profile potentialsuperstar

the_chosen_one 23-07-2007 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by farhad
She has to be evicted, for making this comment to Gerry.
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Originally posted by Matt
If she is not ejected over this or booted out this week I'm going to make a complaint.
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Originally posted by Matt
Lets just do something... this is unfair on Emily...
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Originally posted by Big_Brother_Nutter
they really do need to give her the boot... I don't think a warning will be enough
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Originally posted by farhad
Weather or not she makes it good TV, making this sort of accusation is not acceptable, think about peadophiles getting beaten up on street, people wanting them to get burned, she should of thought before speaking. Charley's comment was worse of the series, she should be automatically thrown out.
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Originally posted by farhad
This is just the highlights, Charley probably said more on Live which was edited out.
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Originally posted by Lauren
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.
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Originally posted by Lauren
Now I don't usually bring homophobia into an argument but do you really think Charley would have said the same thing to a straight man? Had a straight man said "I prefer younger women", her first response wouldn't be "You sleep with 15 year old little girls!"
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Originally posted by farhad
Pleading ignorance doesn't wash.
She is disgusting. And BB are disgusting for not dealing with it.
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Originally posted by nodisharmony
Charley is totally out of control basically.

Everyone can see that and her mission in life, seems to be, to cause as much bother as possible and argue with absolutely everyone and hurt feelings and talk so fast, that we can barely understand her.
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Originally posted by Keith_Can
Its more serious then the bullying/rascism comments that have been made in the past.
It is unacceptable for bb to give her a warning. She should be gone.
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Originally posted by Crystal-Rose
She should have been evicted for this i feel its much worse than what emily done, i dont think she realised how serious that statement was
Anti-Charley Logic.

Billy 23-07-2007 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by nowsthebturn
Quote:

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
can I just say, what offended you more, hearing Emily say wat she said, or hearing Charley?

I found them both offensive, just like I found Gerry asking Amanda if she has ever given a handjob! But Emilys was an offense to be ejected. Gerry antagonised Charley, and was purposely winding charley up, after she had just lost her best friend in the house. He knew what he was doing, sucking his thimb and such, saying they preffered me to her etc.... He was trying to get a raise out of charley, and he got it!

By the way I love your new profile potentialsuperstar
Yes i agree wat your saying
btw are you talking about my signature and avatar? If say then thank you

LovelyL 23-07-2007 11:56 AM

I am not for one second saying I agree with what Charley said, it was appalling and she should have been removed, without a doubt but my argument is that Emily should also stay out. Its easy for people to say they arent that offended by her comment if you are white, but put yourself in a black person's shoes and you may see it in a different way......

Charley was wrong and Emily was wrong, they should both be out of the big brother house, simple as that

SairBabi92 23-07-2007 12:09 PM

Yeah i agree!

bongaleader 23-07-2007 01:24 PM

Arneldo, Charley did not say "Don't push me away you n****r", she said something to the words of, "you pushing it out ******", I think they were singing a something, which is a completely different thing. Check back on the original thread if you want to.

LovelyL 23-07-2007 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by bongaleader
Arneldo, Charley did not say "Don't push me away you n****r", she said something to the words of, "you pushing it out ******", I think they were singing a something, which is a completely different thing. Check back on the original thread if you want to.









They were not singing at all. Charley was pushing her stomach out saying she looked big and then Emily said that. It wasnt a song it was Emily making a blatantly offensive comment

Matt08 23-07-2007 03:15 PM

If Charley didn't actually use the word paedophile then I can't see much Channel 4 or Ofcom can do about the incident.

Billy 23-07-2007 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by LovelyL
Quote:

Originally posted by bongaleader
Arneldo, Charley did not say "Don't push me away you n****r", she said something to the words of, "you pushing it out ******", I think they were singing a something, which is a completely different thing. Check back on the original thread if you want to.
LovelyL they WERE singing. They were singing and having a laugh and a joke









They were not singing at all. Charley was pushing her stomach out saying she looked big and then Emily said that. It wasnt a song it was Emily making a blatantly offensive comment

Charleystar 23-07-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by Matt2k7
If Charley didn't actually use the word paedophile then I can't see much Channel 4 or Ofcom can do about the incident.
Thats what I was thinking, its an interpretation, Charley is just stupid for saying that, and she was well wound up by Gerry at that point. I would have bla,ed her if she meliciously said it, but Gerry was looking for a reaction from Charley, and she lashed out. But likie you said, if it was the law, there is no legal grounds there!

LovelyL 23-07-2007 03:44 PM

potential they werent singing! She said it in a sentence outright. They weren't singing at all and I think if you check it back you'll see I'm right

Jack 23-07-2007 03:46 PM

They weren't singing. Charley said "do I look pregnant?" to which Emily replied "you're pushing it (stomach) out ya n***er.

Sunny_01 23-07-2007 03:54 PM

can we please keep this thread on topic about Charley and not re-hash the Emily incident, it is no longer relevent - if this thread continues to move off topic I will lock it

Sunny_01 23-07-2007 03:58 PM

I dont like what Charley said anymore than anyone else does, however are we not starting to sound like a bunch of kids stamping our feet every time someone says something we dont like. In this culture we have of complaining we have all gotten caught up in the "if we moan we get our own way" type of thinking.

I agree that complaints have there place in this society but do we have to nit pick over every little thing. Had Gerry wanted a big fuss caused you can be sure he would have made one. He would have banged the diary room door down and demanded action be taken and kept going on and on until he was satisfied, as it is he did not.

Neither of them were particularly considerate of each others feelings when they argued but do we need a huge investigation because 2 adults had a row and said mean and hurtful things to each other

Charleystar 23-07-2007 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Sunny_01
I dont like what Charley said anymore than anyone else does, however are we not starting to sound like a bunch of kids stamping our feet every time someone says something we dont like. In this culture we have of complaining we have all gotten caught up in the "if we moan we get our own way" type of thinking.

I agree that complaints have there place in this society but do we have to nit pick over every little thing. Had Gerry wanted a big fuss caused you can be sure he would have made one. He would have banged the diary room door down and demanded action be taken and kept going on and on until he was satisfied, as it is he did not.

Neither of them were particularly considerate of each others feelings when they argued but do we need a huge investigation because 2 adults had a row and said mean and hurtful things to each other
Well said, people cant enjoy a conflictg anymore. Maybe they should kick out anybody that has an argument, that will make it fun!

Psylocke 23-07-2007 04:09 PM

i officially went from liking charley,to seeing her for the ****ing douche-bag **** she really is

bananarama 23-07-2007 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Sunny_01
I dont like what Charley said anymore than anyone else does, however are we not starting to sound like a bunch of kids stamping our feet every time someone says something we dont like. In this culture we have of complaining we have all gotten caught up in the "if we moan we get our own way" type of thinking.

I agree that complaints have there place in this society but do we have to nit pick over every little thing. Had Gerry wanted a big fuss caused you can be sure he would have made one. He would have banged the diary room door down and demanded action be taken and kept going on and on until he was satisfied, as it is he did not.

Neither of them were particularly considerate of each others feelings when they argued but do we need a huge investigation because 2 adults had a row and said mean and hurtful things to each other

I could not agree more. This word sensitive treading on egg shells societ we live in today is bording on insanity....

As far as Charley is concerned she did cross a line that I would think is up to Gerry and his legal advisers to consider when they are out of the house. BB should do nothing other than what they have already done and let everyone get on with the show.

Throwing someone out every time an undesriable word or suggestion of a word is used would render a show like BB incapable of continuing.....

Oh for the days when people believed in the old saying of sticks and stones and had enough character to rise above insults without crying for help from nanny state or control freak organisations like Ofcom

ttw 23-07-2007 04:37 PM

I dont agree with what Charley said. But why are people comparing this incident to that of Emily's...just leave Emily out of it. These are two seperate situations.

Emily got kicked out because she used a racist word, which was not only offensive to Charley, but offensive to the public.

What Charley said, as pointed out before, was offensive to Gerry as it was a personal insult.

Whether Charley should get kicked out or not, i dnt know, but as we have seen she and Gerry have made up... but please dont be so ignorant as to say that Emily should be let back in, that is just condoning what she did.

Nicola 23-07-2007 05:02 PM

I think what happened with Emily was a knee-jerk reaction on the back of the CBB racism row. The CBB stuff was made a national incident and Channel 4 didn't want the same thing happening again if they'd kept Emily in or given her a formal warning as opposed to ejecting her from the house.

With Charley saying what she did about Gerry, maybe they felt that her comments only affected and offended Gerry rather than the outside world and Big Brother felt it necessary for the incident to be sorted out among themselves. Having said that, I'm surprised Charley has lasted as long as what she has in the house with her volatile nature and the way she's turned on nearly all of the housemates, and after the Fake Eviction it seems she has more issues with a lot of them now after finding out who nominated her and what they said.

Sunny_01 23-07-2007 05:21 PM

Great post Nicola :dance2:

Meerkat 23-07-2007 07:11 PM

That's my complaint sent to CH4 :bigsmile:

spacebandit 23-07-2007 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by the_chosen_one
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Originally posted by farhad
She has to be evicted, for making this comment to Gerry.
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Originally posted by Matt
If she is not ejected over this or booted out this week I'm going to make a complaint.
Quote:

Originally posted by Matt
Lets just do something... this is unfair on Emily...
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Originally posted by Big_Brother_Nutter
they really do need to give her the boot... I don't think a warning will be enough
Quote:

Originally posted by farhad
Weather or not she makes it good TV, making this sort of accusation is not acceptable, think about peadophiles getting beaten up on street, people wanting them to get burned, she should of thought before speaking. Charley's comment was worse of the series, she should be automatically thrown out.
Quote:

Originally posted by farhad
This is just the highlights, Charley probably said more on Live which was edited out.
Quote:

Originally posted by Lauren
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.
Quote:

Originally posted by Lauren
Now I don't usually bring homophobia into an argument but do you really think Charley would have said the same thing to a straight man? Had a straight man said "I prefer younger women", her first response wouldn't be "You sleep with 15 year old little girls!"
Quote:

Originally posted by farhad
Pleading ignorance doesn't wash.
She is disgusting. And BB are disgusting for not dealing with it.
Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Charley is totally out of control basically.

Everyone can see that and her mission in life, seems to be, to cause as much bother as possible and argue with absolutely everyone and hurt feelings and talk so fast, that we can barely understand her.
Quote:

Originally posted by Keith_Can
Its more serious then the bullying/rascism comments that have been made in the past.
It is unacceptable for bb to give her a warning. She should be gone.
Quote:

Originally posted by Crystal-Rose
She should have been evicted for this i feel its much worse than what emily done, i dont think she realised how serious that statement was
Anti-Charley Logic.
Pro-Charley Blindness

the_chosen_one 23-07-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-Charley Blindness
Unfortunately for your 'argument', I'm objective as possible where Charley's concerned.

Try again.

Here's the link (again) to the appropriate thread...

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?tid=66029

...incase you can come up with an argument.

CharlotteSometimes 23-07-2007 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-Charley Blindness
Anti-everything tedium.

spacebandit 24-07-2007 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Quote:

Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-Charley Blindness
Unfortunately for your 'argument', I'm objective as possible where Charley's concerned.

Try again.

Here's the link (again) to the appropriate thread...

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?tid=66029

...incase you can come up with an argument.
Considering my post, perhaps you should look up the definition of "argument" - then consider the post I replied to, and then look in the mirror.

spacebandit 24-07-2007 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Quote:

Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-Charley Blindness
Anti-everything tedium.
Pro-ad nauseum predictability

CharlotteSometimes 24-07-2007 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by spacebandit
Considering my post, perhaps you should look up the definition of "argument" - then consider the post I replied to, and then look in the mirror.
You responded to logic with a flame. Ergo, there's no need for anyone to check any definitions. Love the mirror part, though. Such maturity. I bet your dad's bigger than his, too.



Quote:

Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-ad nauseum predictability
Manipulum ad nauseum.


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