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setanta 19-07-2009 11:58 PM

sprinters are nowhere near as big as bodybuilders... that's ridiculous to say. their whole training system is getting power vs body mass in line...finding the right balance so they can move gracefully and with speed. you can't compare the two. and there is no way that they eat as much as bodybuilders. plus, their careers at the top only last 10 years- then they just train normally in every area.... not just weights. bodybuilders are a different breed to sprinters or athletes. can't compare the two. body builders continue to punish themselves well beyond their prime

dharma 20-07-2009 12:06 AM

of course you can relate the two. sprinters train thier muscles to be more explosive in relation to speed. having bigger muscles will not slow you down yes obviously the would be heavier but they support there own weight they would be stronger. these guys dont take or at least their not aloud to take steroids. natural body builders wouldn't get that much bigger than these guys.

basically both of these guys focus on building their muscles..... oh wait BODY BUILDING

setanta 20-07-2009 12:08 AM

do you seriously think there's no difference between the two?

dharma 20-07-2009 12:18 AM

there are some clear comparisons between the two.

the stronger a sprinter is the faster they will be able to run. so they workout, obviously they sprint aswell which is actually muscle building form of exersise. look it up. so to some extent they incorporate a bodybuilding lifestyle in to there training without the body building title.

so basically considering these guys workout and take supplements why all of a sudden are they not going to suffer from all the things you stated for a bodybuilder....

setanta 20-07-2009 12:24 AM

oh dear... you haven't been listening to me. and i'm tired. this is annoying me now. weight training is an important facet of any fitness regime....of course sprinters make use of it but to say they are similar size to bodybuilders is ridiculous.

bodybuilders push their muscles to the limit and build them up and up. always trying to get bigger and bigger. and they do this over long periods of time. i'm talking about long term damage here through this constant stress on the body. body builders dont stop at thirty odd... they continue, irrespective of the pain or whatever. it's pathological to many of them. the obsession to look good propels them on. there has to be a breaking point. thats how i look on it anyway.

Insane_Spirit 20-07-2009 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rollerrd
I bet he has a small willy.
LMAO....that's defo a given imo.

BUT, saying that, there really isn't anything wrong with a guy having a small willy, unless they are dull, boring and vain kn*bs like Tom appears to be.

dharma 20-07-2009 12:30 AM

ok you keep repeating yourself now and seem to always incorporate words like pain and stress that sprinters most defiantly put them selves through.

back to the point sprinters are just as big as tom off bb. your annoyed cos you know your wrong and you cant admit it.

setanta 20-07-2009 12:31 AM

they're nowhere near as big as him... wow, are you serious?

dharma 20-07-2009 12:43 AM

ok dont be silly

tom

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/g...orator-index=5

sprinters

http://www.jasonferruggia.com/wp-con..._crawford2.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/multime...eet_28582t.jpg

setanta 20-07-2009 12:48 AM

they're not the same size...really.... stand them next to each other and you'll see. but anyway, you're deviating away from the point i've been continually trying to make about long term damage to guys who build themselves up and continue to bodybuild. that's all i'm saying. done.

setanta 20-07-2009 12:50 AM

and don't forget that shaun crawford competes at highest level. of course he'll build them up at this stage of his career... but he wont continue that trend for the rest of his life like bodybuilders do. you're comparing a top international athlete to tom to prove a point.

setanta 20-07-2009 12:52 AM

what about usain bolt? is he the same size as tom? it's a silly thing to start talking about

dharma 20-07-2009 12:55 AM

how do you know tom will carry on like tht you dont......... just because tom doent compete doesnt mean he is any less of an athlete.

im comparing two people with similiar bodies to prove a point. you point the finger at bodybuilding cos you hear all the generalized bollox about health isuess that are normally related to steroid abuse.....


aswell ive proved you wrong cos you said these guys wernt comparable. these guys are just as big as tom not forgetting likely to be much taller.

dharma 20-07-2009 12:58 AM

ye but then you get guys that work out religously and are small.... whats your point...

HellShark 20-07-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tintedshadow
Quote:

Originally posted by dharma
can please go into further detail on why you think bodybuilding can abuse your body and why you think it would effect health later on in life...

would you suggest that sprinters would also suffer from these health problems?
since hellshark is acting up flexing his E-muscle i shall bypass him as you are atleast enquiring on a polite coherent level..

suffice it to say sentanta is correct,i am speaking as someone who is a looking in to fitness instructing as a profession,as i am still training what i will do is not articulate what i think and feel..

i shall post a link,which is going to say what all with a little bit of knowledge in the field will tell you..and this is not about steriod abuse,this is about natural body building side affects..

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/OConnor16.html (not sure if we're allowed to post links but mods can edit if that is the case)

so in future,hellshark grow a pair and speak with a manner of respect towards people or you will recieve much the same type of treatment..
Natural Bodybuilding Beats Steroids
by Jim O'Connor


Lmfao. The whole article is about the side effects of steroids, hahahahahaha.

28thapril 20-07-2009 08:02 AM

Lovely body, ugly face and attitude uses his body for gain so not a nice look in the man:cat:

flemin 20-07-2009 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rollerrd
I bet he has a small willy.
It'll be the steroids.

UK_Nailhead 20-07-2009 03:06 PM

Tom is a ugly c-unt, if he thinks he's amazing with his body like that 'steroid use' roid rage man, just wait till he gets older as all that turns to fat and the rest to saggy skin, loveley boyd then, Big Brother 10 Tom ya c-unt, no-one likes you.

mellors 20-07-2009 03:42 PM

actually you can get that ripped clean, but it does take longer and more dedication. been there tried to do that, and failed.:sad: he will never be the size of the likes of the IFBB contestants.

PaulyJ 20-07-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mellors
actually you can get that ripped clean, but it does take longer and more dedication. been there tried to do that, and failed.:sad: he will never be the size of the likes of the IFBB contestants.

Arey ou saying Professional, competitive BB's take steroid's?

mellors 20-07-2009 03:50 PM

you might think that. I could not possbily comment.

:bigsmile:

BitterFruit 20-07-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dbfs
surely you should think the same about dog face then who spends on that money on falst tits!!!!!!!
er ...............good point :thumbs:

The_Long_Run 20-07-2009 03:56 PM

His mate on BBLB on Sunday said Tom used to work in a pizza restaurant and was a 'blob' back then. Probably got teased unmercifully for it so not surprising he has an unhealthy attitude to body shape. He may even suffer from 'body dismorphia', similar to anorexia, but in his mind he sees himself as underdeveloped so is driven to work out to correct his body. Once he started to get in shape and people complimented him on it, it began a psycholgical feedback loop and a "treadmill he can't step off" (if you will excuse the mixture of metaphor and literalism)

PaulyJ 20-07-2009 03:56 PM

Well actually no i would not of thought it, it's just that you seemed to imply it and i wanted to see if you we're happy to support the implication.

I honestly have no idea if they do, i guess it would be banned by the rules, therefore at least a proportion would be clean, thus you cannot tell if someone is on roids simply by how big they are.

dharma 21-07-2009 12:27 AM

ye although steroids are illegal in body building comps bedside natural body building comps they dont get tested... it's part of the sport, its a harsh reality but 99.9 percent of people wouldn't be able to get as big as those guys unless the used hormone replacements. there all doing it. probably why the majority of people dont look at it as a sport.


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