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Zippy 17-07-2011 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Callum (Post 4386732)
Now the top opening weekend film of all time, it brought in around $168 million, beating the previous record of $158 million by The Dark Knight. :D I think it stands a strong chance of becoming the highest grossing film ever, by the looks of things it will be the first Potter film to pass the billion dollar mark anyway.

Its also smashed the worldwide record with $476mill which was previously held by another HP film(half blood prince $394). Harry Potter has always been bigger globally than in America.

Equally impressive is the fact that its the best reviewed widely released film of the year according to Rotten tomatoes and metacritic. Critics and fans seem to love it.

However, there's no way it will catch Avatars $2.78 billion. Or even the runner up Titanics $1.84 billion. However it could take the 3rd spot which is currently LOTR part3 with $1.12 billion.

It will certainly be the biggest Potter film ever(currently the very first HP film at $970 mill). Plus with it being the very final film it should get more repeat viewings than the others.

Vicky. 17-07-2011 11:41 PM

How the hell did avatar make that much :bored:

InOne 17-07-2011 11:42 PM

I think I'm def going to see it again actually, it's the last one, may as well

Zippy 18-07-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4387599)
How the hell did avatar make that much :bored:

one of lifes great mysteries. I know Titanic made that much from heavy repeat viewings by mostly young females.

Lewis. 18-07-2011 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4387599)
How the hell did avatar make that much :bored:

It dragged on for much too long, I think I fell asleep for a little bit of it.

King Gizzard 18-07-2011 12:06 AM

Ahh I loved Avatar

Ninastar 18-07-2011 12:07 AM

get out nate!!

King Gizzard 18-07-2011 12:09 AM

A part of me thinks it's a bandwagon to hate it.. (waits for long put down post against me) I know the stories not original, but people go on as if it's the worst film of all time

Zippy 18-07-2011 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate (Post 4387664)
A part of me thinks it's a bandwagon to hate it.. (waits for long put down post against me) I know the stories not original, but people go on as if it's the worst film of all time

I was seriously bored by it and can't even remember the second half as I'd zoned out. It was just cleverly sold as a film you had to experience on a big screen. And it clearly worked.

Vicky. 18-07-2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lewis. (Post 4387647)
It dragged on for much too long, I think I fell asleep for a little bit of it.

I actually did fall asleep for about an hour in the middle. So I still havent seen the whole film :/

I cant blame the film on me falling asleep though, I hadnt slept the night before :laugh:

Glenn. 18-07-2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4387678)
I was seriously bored by it and can't even remember the second half as I'd zoned out. It was just cleverly sold as a film you had to experience on a big screen. And it clearly worked.

This. Plus they re-released it with 9 mins of extra footage in cinemas to rake in a little more.

Stu 18-07-2011 07:45 PM

Super duper film. I feel quite an odd hollowness now having just seen it. Kind of happy but sad at the same time. I could point out areas where it was cumbersome but as a whole it was a great flick and I'm not up for a full review right now. I'm quite burnt out after it.

The scene with Snape's memory was very emotional and really summed up what a great saga the whole thing is. And it's always good to see Ralph Fiennes be himself.

Ninastar 18-07-2011 07:54 PM

does anyone think that the way snape was killed was a bit gruesome? It was meant to be a 12 but I think if I had been that age or younger it would have really freaked me out. It made me feel sick enough as it is at this age...

Shaun 18-07-2011 07:57 PM

Yeah there were a couple of kids in the row in front of me when I went to see it, they were a bit distressed by Nagini.

Marc 18-07-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4389468)
Super duper film. I feel quite an odd hollowness now having just seen it. Kind of happy but sad at the same time. I could point out areas where it was cumbersome but as a whole it was a great flick and I'm not up for a full review right now. I'm quite burnt out after it.

The scene with Snape's memory was very emotional and really summed up what a great saga the whole thing is. And it's always good to see Ralph Fiennes be himself.

This

Shaun 18-07-2011 07:59 PM

Oh and good to see NME being all subversive as always and giving not only the film, but the entire JK Rowling franchise, a negative review (with absolutely no reason other than "i didnt like it lol so toughx x":

http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?bl...rip&more=1&c=1

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I don't like Harry Potter. There I've said it. A simple five word statement should be enough for many of you to make up your mind about me as a person and my views on film. So please, feel free to skim read the next few hundred words, scroll to the bottom and leave your comments along the lines of, “You is a ****, Potz is the best”, or alternatively, “Tell it Preach, Harry is a wang”. Those up for a spot of genuine debate weighing the pros and cons, however, can join me after the trailer.

Let us start with the credits of the final film. The final instalment of what has turned out to be the most successful franchise in cinema history. Sat in a Multimedia Screening, a day after the premiere, the film's end (and start) was met by a torrent of applause, a few teary eyes and me straight-faced, wondering what the hell was going on.

Then it dawned on me. I began to realise where the majority of my dislike for the boy wizard has come from and why, at times, it's so visceral. I feel left out. I can hear the chorus of 'Ah diddums' from here but it's true. For most of my life (both adult and child) I have adored and poured over every piece of celluloid history from Blockbuster epics to arthouse gems. Sure I don't like them all, but there are very few movie phenomenons that I don't feel a part of. The tale of Harry and his friends is one of them.

Some of this rejection stems from not having read the books and therefore feeling lost at the mere mention of Griffinhouse and Dolby the house elf. Mainly the rejection comes from me, apart from the first film, always watching Potter films in solitude. First as a projectionist and then as a critic, I am one of the very few people who has to watch the Potter films. So when, last Thursday, a chorus of laughter greeted the 'grown up characters' at the end of the film and cheers greeted - spoiler alert - 'the ginge and the fittie' having a snog, I started to believe that perhaps these films are important. That they are worthy.

But, and not to come over too Adam Curtis, this is a fallacy. My job is to analyse the film, to question how it works and how it doesn't. If I were to attend a Justin Bieber concert I shouldn't be swayed by the crowd reaction in the same way I shouldn't believe the News of the World is a great British institution because a few people are put out of work. It was, and remains even in death, a **** rag.

And the Potter films, no matter how loved, are a mess. The dramatic drive that propels a story forward is missing. Granted by the midway point of the finale there is an easily identifiable goal, (namely Harry vs Voldemort), but any other story that takes 90% of its length to get to that point would be shouted down from all corners.

Structurally, the films are all over the place and contain a model that can not and must not be replicated. I'm not arguing that all films must maintain a rigid 3 act structure but trying to balance an episodic, return-to-the-status-quo narrative with a full all-8-films-encompassing arc just doesn't work. It suffers, as the Star Wars prequels did, from filler overkill. It leaves audiences who aren't au fait with all things Pottersville screaming, “Just get on with the story!”

But the lack of storytelling knowledge runs deeper than just structure. Here the blame lies solely at the feet of JK Rowling. Her writing strength at creating characters and names covers her inability to plan ahead. SPOILER ALERT - When it is revealed that Potter can't be killed by Voldemort, the entire narrative drive of the 8th film, and in a way, all the films that preceded it, is sucked dry. This rather important plot twist essentially makes everything that's ever happened in the world of Hogwart's completely pointless. Harry and Voldy could have had a ruck in Episode One and the end result would have been the same - SPOILER OVER.

The final film, by far the best in the series (because it has an actual ending), still suffers from the series' other faults too. One such example: character overkill. When Hagrid, a memorable and important character in the previous films, pops up being tortured in a wood, with no prior introduction, the effect is jarring and removes the viewer from the film. In vast contrast to the previous films, if anything Deathly Hallows: Part Two is rushed.

Am I so cold hearted and blinkered to see that there aren't great things inside the franchise juggernaut? Of course not. Visually the final film is stunning. And I don't mean, quite nice looking, fairly decent effects, I mean, world-creating, jaw-on-the-floor, best-use-of-CGI-ever stunning. Visual effects should always be as good as the last major blockbuster, that's how progress works, but Deathly Hallows:Part Two has gone above and beyond in the eye-popping stakes. The siege of Hogwarts is up there with the battle for Pelennor Fields in Lord of the Rings.

Without some sense of danger and investment in character the effects would mean nothing. Therefore it's time to give some kudos to the young actors involved. It may have taken eight films but Radcliffe, Watson and Grint have finally become likeable in their roles. Time may prove me wrong but I don't fear a Mark Hamill trajectory of Daniel. A few films ago, yes, but not now. He has matured into someone capable of emoting what he is needed. Acting doesn't require much more than that.

Ultimately you'll have made your mind up about Harry Potter years ago. You'll have either dismissed him completely or panted over every news article, poster, trailer and toy. You'll have decided what you wanted to write in the comments below before you began reading and it's doubtful you'll have changed your mind over the course of this piece.

Personally, I'm glad I finished the series. The finale is as flawed as it is fitting.

So this is it, possibly the last thing I'll write on Harry. I can't say I'll miss him and I doubt I'll ever revisit him (unless some poor unfortunate gets impregnated by me and our children weep until I pop on a DVD of the speccy wand waverer) but I no longer hate him. He has bought pleasure to many and a shedload of cash and jobs to film-makers who will have learnt a lot from the experience.

But if Warner release The Further Adventures Of Albiy S. Potter, I reserve the right to change any nice things written above.

For now though, RIP Harry.

InOne 18-07-2011 07:59 PM

I'm glad they didn't pussyfoot around with it though, some bits in the book are fairly graphic

Marc 18-07-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4389497)
Yeah there were a couple of kids in the row in front of me when I went to see it, they were a bit distressed by Nagini.

Kids in front of me shoved their hands in the air and started clapping when that Belarix babe died.

Marc 18-07-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 4389491)
does anyone think that the way snape was killed was a bit gruesome? It was meant to be a 12 but I think if I had been that age or younger it would have really freaked me out. It made me feel sick enough as it is at this age...

Definitely. And Lavender Brown having her neck chewed off.. pretty grim

Marc 18-07-2011 08:03 PM

How can people fall asleep!?

It was so loud! :laugh:

Ninastar 18-07-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4389497)
Yeah there were a couple of kids in the row in front of me when I went to see it, they were a bit distressed by Nagini.

thats kinda sad
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Originally Posted by Marc. (Post 4389518)
Definitely. And Lavender Brown having her neck chewed off.. pretty grim

yeah it was horrible. when the one girl screamed I had chills. and then another screamed and then you heard Voldemort speak and it was like ohmalawd :amazed:

Shaun 18-07-2011 08:07 PM

I didn't even realise it was Lavender.

Stu 18-07-2011 08:12 PM

We were all laughing in the screening. It became a great comedy as soon as it got to the bit where Harry died and got trapped inside an Apple advert.

Ninastar 18-07-2011 08:23 PM

yeah people laughed at that part too! and when he looked under the bench (?) and saw the fetus thing people laughed

Marc 18-07-2011 08:25 PM

The foetus was totally uncalled for... some parts were supposed to be serious and they just got a laugh out of everybody :laugh:


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