Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 9062102)

For his own survival (and of the very few people he cared about) sure. For the survival of a group who depend on him? No chance would he be any good for that. :laugh:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9062169)

Nicky is Negan :worry:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9062169)

Nicky is Negan :worry:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9062179)

I've noticed how Nicky can go from butter wouldn't melt to loving Donald trump :think:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 9062181)

okay :hee:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9062183)

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 9062222)

i just love his sense of humour, and when he's taunting Rick, omg Rick is such a weak leader :hehe:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9062220)

I think Shane did care about the group.Did'nt he stop Carols husband from beating her once?But he liked to get sh@t done and was a hot head.I think a leader needs to be able to look at a situation and take a measured response but also have the courage to get sh@t done too.I think Shane would have lead the group to their death by now.

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 9062222)

i just love his sense of humour, and when he's taunting Rick, omg Rick is such a weak leader :hehe:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9062225)

Or maybe he would have evolved like Rick has

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9062231)

Negan is brutal and a sociopath imo.The fact that he can have that sense of humour(which yes is funny)while being a sadistic killer makes him the worst enemy they've faced.Atm he seems to not have a humane side.He is inhuman.

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 9062239)

maybe we'll get some background information about him as well, just for some character development :)

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9062231)

Negan is brutal and a sociopath imo.The fact that he can have that sense of humour(which yes is funny)while being a sadistic killer makes him the worst enemy they've faced.Atm he seems to not have a humane side.He is inhuman.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9062225)

Or maybe he would have evolved like Rick has

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9062104)

I think he would put those he cared most about first(who wouldn't) but I also think he'd know that keeping a group around him was the best option for survival

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9062220)

I think Shane did care about the group.Did'nt he stop Carols husband from beating her once?But he liked to get sh@t done and was a hot head.I think a leader needs to be able to look at a situation and take a measured response but also have the courage to get sh@t done too.I think Shane would have lead the group to their death by now.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9062371)

You gotta let Shane go Niamh :worry:

Originally Posted by Natalie. (Post 9062397)

They should have had Shane go away somehow and come back at a later season.

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 9062385)

There's a difference between putting those you care for the most first and actually being a leader of a group where it's highly unlikely you care whatsoever about the majority of them beyond them being numbers to increase your chances of survival. And I have no doubt he'd do what he did to Otis to any of them bar Lori and Carl if he felt the need to. This is a guy who wanted to murder his best friend because he wanted his wife.

As I said, Shane before Rick returned was probably a fine leader. Afterwards, however, is a very different story.



Yeah but that was before he went really off the deep end (I do think he cared for the others more at the start) and more than anything I think it was him using it as an outlet for his rage over Lori and Rick. Bby the point he died, I'd say literally only Lori and Carl were people who he'd give a damn about going forward (and Judith if he lived longer).

And I totally agree with the last part. It's not like Shane was just a guy who was willing to make tough decisions to survive (as he likely was before he went nuts), he was an unstable psychopath by the end. He did have great leadership qualities earlier on but he'd totally shed them by the time he died.

But all of that said, he's one of my favourite characters because you can tell he was a well-intentioned guy before he started to unravel and I find his fall from grace fascinating.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9062431)

I know right? :bawling: Lostie is dead to me