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Marsh. 13-03-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9248935)
I'm kind of hoping that Missy regenerates at the end of this season. She's a fantastic character but she isn't the master.

pISS OFF

She's better than John Simm and that's all that matters. :nono:

But she probably will as she will largely be associated with Peter Capaldi's era.

Maybe the Master/Doctor will be a big plot point this season and will regenerate together?

Rob! 13-03-2017 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9248936)
pISS OFF

She's better than John Simm and that's all that matters. :nono:

But she probably will as she will largely be associated with Peter Capaldi's era.

Maybe the Master/Doctor will be a big plot point this season and will regenerate together?

Oh trust me, I'm in no way debating that.

But if you look at the history of the character, Missy is the only Master that has ever gone about claiming that The Doctor and the Master are friends. I don't see any particular menace with Missy. She's more Puck than Iago.

Marsh. 13-03-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9248939)
Oh trust me, I'm in no way debating that.

But if you look at the history of the character, Missy is the only Master that has ever gone about claiming that The Doctor and the Master are friends. I don't see any particular menace with Missy. She's more Puck than Iago.

Oh I thought she did menace well in the season 8 finale.

A psycho menace. They kind of made her a bit too "pally" I suppose in season 9.

Glenn. 13-03-2017 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9248935)
I'm kind of hoping that Missy regenerates at the end of this season. She's a fantastic character but she isn't the master.

I thought this too. It would be kinda like a reset for Chibnall should he want a Master story.

Marsh. 13-03-2017 10:07 PM

I'm kind of sick of the Master/Daleks etc I want new monsters.

Tregard 13-03-2017 11:33 PM

This series looks like it's going to do absolutely nothing for me. Moffat will undoubtedly throw several spanners into the work as it's his last horrah, the companions are definitely gone at the end of this run, and it seems like a buffer for the old guard to tie up loose ends before Chinball.

If I'm being brutally honest, I don't think or believe they should cast a female Doctor on this next regeneration. I personally believe the Doctor *after* the next one will likely be female, but this next regeneration will be the first of a new writer who will be completely unproven and will be coming off of the wackiness and insanity of Moffat's arc, they will save something as significant as a female Doctor for later down the line. (Although FWIW, Vicky McClure seems like a good pick)

I agree Missy should probably also regenerate at the end of the series, even if we don't see the outcome. Chinball is going to need as clean a slate as possible to work from. I think this series is going to be largely overshadowed with speculation of the next series, unfortunately.

Rob! 14-03-2017 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tregard (Post 9249014)
This series looks like it's going to do absolutely nothing for me. Moffat will undoubtedly throw several spanners into the work as it's his last horrah, the companions are definitely gone at the end of this run, and it seems like a buffer for the old guard to tie up loose ends before Chinball.

If I'm being brutally honest, I don't think or believe they should cast a female Doctor on this next regeneration. I personally believe the Doctor *after* the next one will likely be female, but this next regeneration will be the first of a new writer who will be completely unproven and will be coming off of the wackiness and insanity of Moffat's arc, they will save something as significant as a female Doctor for later down the line. (Although FWIW, Vicky McClure seems like a good pick)

I agree Missy should probably also regenerate at the end of the series, even if we don't see the outcome. Chinball is going to need as clean a slate as possible to work from. I think this series is going to be largely overshadowed with speculation of the next series, unfortunately.

Moffat has catogorically stated that this series is an excellent one for brand new viewers which seems ironic with it being his last considering not one of his series apart from possibly 5 have been suitable for new viewers

Marsh. 14-03-2017 01:41 AM



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Marsh. 14-03-2017 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9249023)
Moffat has catogorically stated that this series is an excellent one

I'll be the judge of that...

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user104658 14-03-2017 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9249023)
Moffat has catogorically stated that this series is an excellent one for brand new viewers which seems ironic with it being his last considering not one of his series apart from possibly 5 have been suitable for new viewers

Don't like the sound of that personally :hmph:. If they're catering to new viewers it means that they will either totally avoid making many references to past seasons (which is a shame in a show with so much history) OR whenever something history comes up they will have someone explaining it to "the new companion" (a conduit for new viewers) in tedious simple reams, which could get really boring. I'm already concerned about this new companion. As soon as I saw her I got a CBBC presenter vibe and then they showed the actual clips at Christmas :umm2:.

"The TARDIS is badly damaged!"
"OK well first we're going to need some sticky-backed plastic... "

GoldHeart 16-03-2017 03:25 PM

If the Doctor regenerates into a woman then I'm done watching !! And I won't bother with the show anymore , I'll lose interest and stop watching it completely. I don't care if she'll be the best actress it just still wouldn't work :bored: .

And I can see they keep teasing that a female might get cast as the new Doctor and I think it will be ridiculous and the wrong decision.

It's bad enough the Master turned into Missy :notimpressed: , so the Doctor should stay a man ( and I'm a woman myself but I just think it would ruin things) .

Saph 16-03-2017 04:03 PM

im watching season 7 atm, its already a lot better then s6

and yeah the doctor wouldnt work as a woman at all..

Saph 16-03-2017 04:03 PM

the ice warrior ep and the ghost one were creepy but so good

Marsh. 16-03-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 9251726)
If the Doctor regenerates into a woman then I'm done watching !! And I won't bother with the show anymore , I'll lose interest and stop watching it completely. I don't care if she'll be the best actress it just still wouldn't work :bored: .

And I can see they keep teasing that a female might get cast as the new Doctor and I think it will be ridiculous and the wrong decision.

It's bad enough the Master turned into Missy :notimpressed: , so the Doctor should stay a man ( and I'm a woman myself but I just think it would ruin things) .

How would it ruin things?

People are entitled to prefer the things they prefer but I've yet to see a reason why it's such a bad thing.

At least as an experiment. Let's face it DW has always took chances and it's still one of the top shows 54 years later despite the odd unpopular companion or badly cast Doctor or plain bad eras.

Sticks 16-03-2017 04:21 PM

They should have one who is a ginger at last

Assuming there is a new Doctor and the show is not cancelled...:whistle:

GoldHeart 16-03-2017 04:21 PM

Ko
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9251789)
How would it ruin things?

People are entitled to prefer the things they prefer but I've yet to see a reason why it's such a bad thing.

At least as an experiment. Let's face it DW has always took chances and it's still one of the top shows 54 years later despite the odd unpopular companion or badly cast Doctor or plain bad eras.

I can guarantee DW will lose a lot of fans if they make that decision :nono: . Especially alot of male fans who see themselves in the Doctor's shoes he's their hero .

They've already lost fans due to people not liking Actors like Matt Smith & Peter Capaldi :shrug: but that's always going to happen as you can't please everyone but atleast they were MALE Actors . I personally think David Tennant was the one to beat as he left such big shoes to fill , Matt Smith did it perfectly .

Peter Capaldi is however different & very serious but I gradually got use to him , but I just think it will be ridiculous if the doctor becomes a WOMAN. It's my opinion and I think the show will go downhill no matter how good the actress might be , that's another thing I think they'll pick the wrong person too :facepalm: .

user104658 16-03-2017 04:24 PM

I don't think I'll mind a female doctor if they play the role well, I'd probably get used to it. I actually didn't think I'd like Capaldi but have thus far enjoyed his stint :shrug:.

That said, from a sci-fi standpoint, and because I don't like Canon being altered in ways that were clearly not intended (from a writing point of view it grates for me), I don't particularly like that they've blatantly changed the regeneration "rules". In my opinion the timelords were clearly originally written as having a fixed gender, and that's been reconsidered recently and changed. If it had been that way from the start, fine, but it obviously wasn't. It also doesn't make sense that the doctor would have regenerated a dozen times and been male every time thus far. Statistically unlikely, surely.

Marsh. 16-03-2017 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 9251805)
Ko

I can guarantee DW will lose a lot of fans if they make that decision :nono: . Especially alot of male fans who see themselves in the Doctor's shoes he's their hero .

So then they're sexist creeps. If the only argument against is "The Doctor should just be a man" then that's not enough reason. :shrug:

The show has a lot of female fans too.

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 9251805)
They've already lost fans due to people not liking Actors like Matt Smith & Peter Capaldi :shrug: but that's always going to happen as you can't please everyone but atleast they were MALE Actors . I personally think David Tennant was the one to beat as he left such big shoes to fill , Matt Smith did it perfectly . .

But again, why is having a female actor so bad?
There are always going to be viewers who don't like a particular era of the show, and others who do. That goes for every series, Doctor, companion etc. Always happens.

Like you just said you felt Matt Smith did it perfectly, I personally wasn't a fan.

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 9251805)
Peter Capaldi is however different & very serious but I gradually got use to him , but I just think it will be ridiculous if the doctor becomes a WOMAN. It's my opinion and I think the show will go downhill no matter how good the actress might be , that's another thing I think they'll pick the wrong person too :facepalm: .

Well, them choosing the wrong actor is another thing entirely. I was asking why a woman is so bad? We've had various/Doctors of ages and styles.

If the only argument for a male Doctor is "Because they've always been men" then that's not strong enough IMO because that would've been like them not casting Peter Davison because at that point "he's always been old".

Marsh. 16-03-2017 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9251812)
I don't think I'll mind a female doctor if they play the role well, I'd probably get used to it. I actually didn't think I'd like Capaldi but have thus far enjoyed his stint :shrug:.

That said, from a sci-fi standpoint, and because I don't like Canon being altered in ways that were clearly not intended (from a writing point of view it grates for me), I don't particularly like that they've blatantly changed the regeneration "rules". In my opinion the timelords were clearly originally written as having a fixed gender, and that's been reconsidered recently and changed. If it had been that way from the start, fine, but it obviously wasn't. It also doesn't make sense that the doctor would have regenerated a dozen times and been male every time thus far. Statistically unlikely, surely.

And they've changed more than that. Now he can take on the faces of people he's known in the past. :joker:

Jarrod 16-03-2017 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 9251804)
They should have one who is a ginger at last

Assuming there is a new Doctor and the show is not cancelled...:whistle:

Your "cancellation" posts are really silly. BBC wouldn't go through the effort of commissioning a new series and hiring a brand new show runner for it to be cancelled. Doctor Who still gets 7 Million+ a night and has massive appeal around the world.

Marsh. 16-03-2017 04:34 PM

Here for the Doctor to start seriously missing Donna before he regenerates and take on her face. :smug:

The Doctor can still be male, just with Donna's face.

How do people feel about an androgynous Doctor? :think:

Marsh. 16-03-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 9251804)
They should have one who is a ginger at last

Assuming there is a new Doctor and the show is not cancelled...:whistle:

Yeah, cancel one of their most popular shows and one of their biggest worldwide brands. That makes lots of sense. :whistle:

GoldHeart 16-03-2017 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9251817)
And they've changed more than that. Now he can take on the faces of people he's known in the past. :joker:

Yeah alot of the rules have changed . He's took on faces he's known in the past to explain why Capaldi got picked :joker: because he got saved in the Pompeii episode back in season 4 .

Time Lords are all men , why would he suddenly be a woman now?? It would be confusing. I know they can regenerate into anyone but he should stay a man.

Marsh. 16-03-2017 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 9251848)
Time Lords are all men , why would he suddenly be a woman now??

Why would the Master?

Why would he go from 70+ years old in appearance to 50s, then to 40s then 30s, then late 20s and then early 60s?

Why does the Tardis interior frequently completely transform?

This is Doctor Who there is no reason or canon plot facts to stop him being female.

Another Timelord other than the Master also became a woman in the series 9 finale.

Time Lords have also NEVER been all men. There were Time Ladies in the original series.

GoldHeart 16-03-2017 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9251858)
Why would the Master?

Why would he go from 70+ years old in appearance to 50s, then to 40s then 30s, then late 20s and then early 60s?

Why does the Tardis interior frequently completely transform?

This is Doctor Who there is no reason or canon plot facts to stop him being female.

Another Timelord other than the Master also became a woman in the series 9 finale.

Time Lords have also NEVER been all men. There were Time Ladies in the original series.

Who else became a woman in series 9 ???? I'm lost now :conf:.

Changing the Doctor's age is completely different , I've noticed though there's all this fuss about the Doctor being a woman but no mention of changing the Doctor's ethnicity ? :think: I'd find that interesting if he became a Black man or Hispanic man . But people would rather have a woman which I find strange .


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