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arista 27-12-2021 12:09 PM

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arista 27-12-2021 02:02 PM

[Belgian anti-vaxxer kickboxing champion,
41 known as The Undertaker.
Dies of Covid-19.]

[Frederic Sinistra died of complications relating
to the virus in Ciney, Belgium,
weeks after discharging himself from
a hospital in Liege and telling followers
he would treat his symptoms from home.]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12...0548268935.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12...0547102214.jpg


Being Anti Vax
was his tragic mistake.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rged-dies.html

arista 27-12-2021 02:38 PM

Israel Hospital Staff

50 health workers all got their 4th Pfizer Vaccine
today.

Over 60's, are also due to receive it
once it is signed off at the end of the week.

CNN HD reporter in Israel

arista 27-12-2021 02:44 PM

USA
has had 170,000 children infected with Covid-19
this past week.

Reported on Gravitas WION HD

arista 27-12-2021 03:16 PM

Monday 27/12/21

143 have Died
98,515 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,240

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
842



148,003
Total Covid-19 UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Crimson Dynamo 27-12-2021 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11125073)
Monday 27/12/21

143 have Died
98,515 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,240

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
842



148,003
Total Covid-19 UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Wednesday 3/11/21

217 have Died
41,299 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,538

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,030


140,964 Total UK Deaths

user104658 27-12-2021 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All The Jingle Ladies (Post 11125029)
they call LBC and Talkradio pretty much daily. WHole shows are dedicated to "call in if you work for the NHS"(Particularly, in and A&E or ICU). In fact Andrew Castle did that very show yesterday. And I dont think over the last 2 years has a job been more scrutinised and in the news than A & E and ICU.


Is that a “no” then?

The NHS is struggling. It struggled significantly during the first two waves (early 2020 and last winter) and has had ropey periods throughout Delta. That’s in terms of Covid care. In terms of other types of care (all sorts of things, from cancer to basic A&E care) it’s falling apart at the seams. That’s not a “myth” or an “old chestnut”, it’s the simple facts. Not enough staff already, haemorrhaging more staff because conditions and public attitude are so bad, and then vast numbers more ending up off sick with Covid.

Just because you can’t see what’s going on underneath the surface, doesn’t mean things are fine. I appreciate that it makes some people feel better to continue lying to themselves and pretending it’s all rainbows. The health service is in big, big trouble.

bots 27-12-2021 03:48 PM

There will be no further covid measures before the new year in england - so says the health secretary

arista 27-12-2021 03:52 PM

Yes and 90% of the New Covid Cases
are Omicron milder Covid-19

Crimson Dynamo 27-12-2021 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 11125077)
Is that a “no” then?

The NHS is struggling. It struggled significantly during the first two waves (early 2020 and last winter) and has had ropey periods throughout Delta. That’s in terms of Covid care. In terms of other types of care (all sorts of things, from cancer to basic A&E care) it’s falling apart at the seams. That’s not a “myth” or an “old chestnut”, it’s the simple facts. Not enough staff already, haemorrhaging more staff because conditions and public attitude are so bad, and then vast numbers more ending up off sick with Covid.

Just because you can’t see what’s going on underneath the surface, doesn’t mean things are fine. I appreciate that it makes some people feel better to continue lying to themselves and pretending it’s all rainbows. The health service is in big, big trouble.


No one save you is saying its fine, its in constant not fit for purpose state every year never mind covid, its poorly run and not the envy of any country. But the whole of the UK should not be held to ransom to protect its failings.

More than 60 NHS chiefs earn more than Prime Minister's £142k

My point is it's used as the silver bullet to get restrictions through everytime by the very people (successive governments) responsible for its decline (does not matter which party)

As for if you dont personally know someone point, that is just bollocks

Crimson Dynamo 27-12-2021 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta (Post 11125078)
There will be no further covid measures before the new year in england - so says the health secretary

Good news

user104658 27-12-2021 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All The Jingle Ladies (Post 11125081)
No one save you is saying its fine, its in constant not fit for purpose state every year never mind covid, its poorly run and not the envy of any country. But the whole of the UK should not be held to ransom to protect its failings.

True but the claim appears to be (?) that Covid hasn’t made things worse or won’t continue to make it worse. Which is simply a lie. Sure the NHS is on thin ice, but that doesn’t mean you declare “meh it’s thin ice anyway!” And start throwing rocks onto it.

Crimson Dynamo 27-12-2021 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 11125083)
True but the claim appears to be (?) that Covid hasn’t made things worse or won’t continue to make it worse. Which is simply a lie. Sure the NHS is on thin ice, but that doesn’t mean you declare “meh it’s thin ice anyway!” And start throwing rocks onto it.

I feel its used as a get out of jail free card when politicians are killing whole industries with restrictions that are clearly made on very poor modeling that was instigated solely to justify restrictions


The NHS budget was £33 billion when Tony Blair came to power in 1997; it has quadrupled to over £150 billion. The NHS capacity crisis, however, has persisted throughout. General and acute bed numbers fell from 181,000 beds in 1987 to just over 100,000 before the pandemic. Despite the backdrop of a steadily ageing population: the number aged 85 or over is predicted to double in 20 years. (spectator report)

Crimson Dynamo 27-12-2021 04:25 PM

The number of people in hospital with coronavirus in England is less than half
what it was this time last year, despite there being three times as many
reported cases, figures show.

As the government met with scientists to decide whether to impose new
restrictions, the latest hospital data showed there were 7,536 patients in
hospital on December 26, compared to 18,350 on the same day last year.


The current figure has risen slightly after falling in recent weeks, and is now at
around the same level as on November 1 (7,535).

The latest data showed that reported coronavirus cases fell to 98,000 from
103,000 in England on Monday. The numbers from the other devolved nations,
as well as hospital admissions, will be updated on Tuesday.

DT just now

Crimson Dynamo 27-12-2021 08:37 PM

There is no economic or social equivalent of Sage offering parallel advice about mental health, other diseases, damage to employment sectors, damage to children and so on

And it is a huge problem that will only grow and grow

bots 27-12-2021 09:14 PM

Sage is just an advisory body, the same as countless other advisory body's. The problem as i see it is that the media give them too much weight and if the media don't get the outcome they want, they pick an individual from that body to re-enforce their agenda. It's not that sage are doing a bad job, it's just their advice is but one part of a bigger picture and that is something the media dont readily admit

arista 27-12-2021 10:25 PM

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Beastie 27-12-2021 10:35 PM

The PM is living it up from abroad. :laugh:

Mystic Mock 27-12-2021 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11125062)
[Belgian anti-vaxxer kickboxing champion,
41 known as The Undertaker.
Dies of Covid-19.]

[Frederic Sinistra died of complications relating
to the virus in Ciney, Belgium,
weeks after discharging himself from
a hospital in Liege and telling followers
he would treat his symptoms from home.]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12...0548268935.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12...0547102214.jpg


Being Anti Vax
was his tragic mistake.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rged-dies.html

That's horrifying to hear about.

Mystic Mock 27-12-2021 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 11125077)
Is that a “no” then?

The NHS is struggling. It struggled significantly during the first two waves (early 2020 and last winter) and has had ropey periods throughout Delta. That’s in terms of Covid care. In terms of other types of care (all sorts of things, from cancer to basic A&E care) it’s falling apart at the seams. That’s not a “myth” or an “old chestnut”, it’s the simple facts. Not enough staff already, haemorrhaging more staff because conditions and public attitude are so bad, and then vast numbers more ending up off sick with Covid.

Just because you can’t see what’s going on underneath the surface, doesn’t mean things are fine. I appreciate that it makes some people feel better to continue lying to themselves and pretending it’s all rainbows. The health service is in big, big trouble.

I still don't get after the first wave why our Government still refused to properly fund our NHS?


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