Amber heard was also fiming to show him when he was sober in the morning..but seeing as the clip is morning time, I'm not sure what time he would have been sober.

You would have to take his drink away to do that goldheart...not a wise move, infact probably the worst move

Thanks Niamh...none.of it was my finest hour but the second my boy was at risk was the kick I needed. Prior to that, in public we were quite the picture of happy families.

And domestic abuse shouldn't be excused because of addiction and mental health issues

But Annie as awful & terrible as it is what you went through , you can't compare it to JD & AH . We haven't seen JD throwing glasses at AH's head . The damage he did was to his own kitchen, there isn't evidence of him physically hurting her.

But he lost the tip of his finger due to her anger. Again nobody is condoning JD . In the audio clips he's talking about cutting himself, if I was in that situation I would get help .

And as for the coffee & water ,I would make it and if he doesn't want it then that's up to him. But whilst the cabinet smashing is happening ,I would hide the wine & get some help . I wouldn't be filming him & laughing.

And nobody is excusing anything, but if someone has mental issues & addiction problems I would not be exploiting it , that person would need help .

And why are people pretending they wouldn't be annoyed or stressed if their partner secretly filmed them at their worst,I believe you thousands wouldn't :whistle: .

And she still had the phone even when he walked away from her . He tried to grab it but was unsuccessful,and she had it rested on the counter. He didn't thrown her in the air and rip her hand off with the phone.

As for role models & anger issues, the Gallagher brothers are very angry people, yet still get support from their fans . I'm sure they've attacked paparazzi aswell.

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Some one who is out of control on drink and drugs are a danger to themselves their friends their families and total strangers , no if buts or maybes

If you have never been around someone in such a state you will never under stand how it feels

That isn't always true though.

Some people with mental illness & addiction problems are more a danger to themselves than others. Plus he kept running to bathrooms to get away from her.

And he isn't the first person, to hit furniture in a drunken or high stupor.

When you are living with that person you are in living hell they are fine one minute and a psychopath the next

The mother of my child who is now sadly dead, I will give you one example
She couldn’t get to me to stab me so she stabbed herself she would at times if we had a row over what she was doing would grab a knife and threaten to stab her self

The next day she would deny any wrong doing
Any deny it with so much conviction I would question my own sanity

If you haven’t lived that life you don’t know what you are talking about

I never claimed to be an expert. But I would get support & help. Anything involving self harm & violence is serious, and you cannot deal with it all by yourself.

I can't begin to imagine how difficult it must have been for Frank Bruno, and how awful it must have been for his daughter who made the decision to section him. I don't think he ever fully forgave her .

Nobody is saying that .. or defending his drunkenness .

I just don’t see how he can be drunk AND be aware of his behaviour.. at the same time .

Most people who get legless don’t seem to bother what they say or do and don’t recall much afterwards either.


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I’d agree with everything above


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People do deal with it by themselves over and over
You can have a mental illness but if you get drunk smash the place up you get arrested for being drunk not mentally ill

Again you have to live the life to know how the system works

I’d agree with all of the above as well


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I will leave this thread with this statement because it seems appropriate.

Some people still truly believe that Jimmy savile didn’t abuse any one and was a good man.

I know they do ,but I said it SHOULDN'T be like that . Especially if you feel that YOURSELF is in danger,or that the person will hurt THEMSELVES. Once things escalate to that stage then it's time to get help & support.

Like I said I know it's difficult,and people stay in a rut of problems,and I don't have all the answers.

Anyone following the Amber and Johnny trial?
 

No they don’t , they really , really don’t !!

Where on gawd’s earth did you get that crazy notion from ?

Sounds like something off a conspiracy website

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Amber heard was not even allowed to film her husband, what on earth makes people believe she was in any position to get him any help.

Utterly absurd & quite insulting to hear Savile's name dragged into this , who exactly is defending him?? .. I haven't seen any support for him . He was a slimy perverted abuser who got away with his actions & never faced consequences.

Back to the whole having anger issues , what about BB housemates who flip their lid at the smallest of things. If anything the more issues they have the more likely they will be a housemate. But some of those housemates are still seen as 'entertaining' ,even when they throw things around & scream .

It’s very sad to hear stories from people on here that have been victims of abuse…and I can see that emotional blackmail and manipulation can make the victim feel they are the ones in the wrong.
It’s hugely apparent that Johnny Depp had addiction issues and with these issues violent outbursts become a result of those addictions. That evidence seen on footage shown to the court.
However, Amber Heard comes across as a very strong and manipulative person. Her stories don’t all hold up…and filming him in a drunken rage does not prove domestic abuse it just proves he can become violent under the influence. A violent drunk grabbing her phone when he realises she is filming him does not prove he is assaulting her. If he was liable to attack her then why would she blatantly do it and risk being physically attacked. When he came right next to her to fill up his glass wouldn’t anyone afraid of physical abuse hide the phone in fear of being caught :shrug:….but she kept filming…kept goading him in a very calm voice with questions when it was all too clear that her actions were just provoking a reaction…
I personally found her performance in court cringeworthy….the tearful face but no tears. When questioned by the defence team she was in total control and I never once saw her break down when questioned by them when I watched it…unless I missed it as I have not seen it all.
The whole sad story is a mess….but I am not convinced.

All of the above

I wish I had your way with words , incidentally


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Also why is JD losing the tip of his god damn finger getting brushed over/downplayed, when we all know if it was the other way around then they'd be more disgust and shocked reactions. And JD would have been arrested most likely.

The xrays clearly show how horrible that finger injury was . But we don't see any medical reports of AH's injuries but yet we're supposed to just nod and believe her :bored:.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUC6zAyW...g&name=900x900

UK : Jeff Beck brings on Johnny for "Whats Going On" Marvin Gaye Track

https://twitter.com/crockpics/status...29306483855364

I'm convinced she's the violent one.
She abused her ex wife , her sister and her poor lat mum.
An absolute horrible kind of person, manipulative and narcissistic.

Great to see him getting back doing what he loves.