Well got my polling cards today.No registering required.

Same.
Funny how there's no mix ups when it's what dave wants.... :suspect:

i have my card, all i need to do now is decide conclusively which way to vote :laugh:

The Referendum 2016
 

Immigration to the UK in the 1980s was approx. 30k-50k per year.

This number has now grown to almost 400k per year.

This puts a massive strain on our NHS, Housing needs, employment opportunities, school capacity, road congestion, police forces, waste recycling to name but a few.

Some may have forgotten their father's & mother's, grand parents and great grand parents who gave their lives for this country, will those who now reside here do the same ???, or will they claim it's not our fight, or decline to defend the country for religious or political beliefs, or perhaps simply run back to their country of origin.

Many countries in Europe and eastern Europe can now freely cross in to the UK, the same countries who were our sworn enemies not so long ago and yet our closest allies Australia have no right of free access ???.

Our laws have been continually changed to suit the needs of immigrants, yet they came because our previous laws and way of life was better and safer than the countries they came from, now they want to do things the way they did in their own countries, thus turning it into the country they wanted to get away from.

before anyone thinks I am be racist, I am white and my wife is black, my business partner is Asian, I have friends from many countries.

England is quite a small country in relation to the likes of countries such America, Brazil, Australia we are so small you could drop England into America and lose it.

We should have the right to say we cannot keep taking in more people at the current rate of 400k per year.

I constantly hear the eastern Europeans are willing to take on low paid work etc, the problem with low paid workers is they claim working tax credits, child tax credits, child care allowance and housing benefit, this can be 10 times more than they pay in tax and national insurance from earnings.

The current EU laws also state they can claim these same benefits for their families who are living in their country of origin, such as Poland, Slovakia etc etc, this can be more than double the average monthly wage income in said countries, these benefits run into the billions, money that never returns to the UK economy, we are making other countries economies stronger and our own weaker ???.

The government has increased the pension age of our mother's and grandmother's from 60 to 65 and in ten years time this will increase to 66-67 years of age, imagine being almost 70yrs old and having to get up for work at 6am and do a 8 or 10 work shift, also think about the competition for jobs at that age.

This is simple mathematics, more people, more cars on the road, more health care, more houses needed, more people the percentage of crime rises, more police needed, more people less jobs available, our towns and cities are rammed full.

Don't listen to David Cameron his future is safe, he and his family has shipped their money to off shore accounts to avoid taxes and bought property abroad to retire to when they leave this country is a mess, don't listen to the American economists and bankers etc as they are only interested in their investments in UK and Europe along with the tax breaks they enjoy.

[This is simple mathematics,
more people, more cars on the road,
more health care, more houses needed,
more people the percentage of crime rises,
more police needed, more people
less jobs available, our towns
and cities are rammed full.]


Valid Point Last Knight

Second World War Veterans Come Out Against Brexit:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7019646.html

Alot of people will only realise this when it's too late and the country is at a stand still.It's alteady heading that way.
Then will blame whichever government is in power for not building enough houses,schools,hospitals,roads etc when in reality it will be impossible to build enough for the amounts of people coming here.It will actually be all our fault for voting to remain in this mess.You could'nt make it up.All our generation will be old and grey and saying 'oh ****,We ****ed up did'nt we' and our grand kids will suffer for it.

If you still need convincing to vote OUT of the EU then simply go and watch the Brexit documentary online . It's is absolutely shocking how much the EU is mugging off the UK in every aspect and on a daily basis. Vote OUT!:thumbs:

I've seen and heard some really way out claims from both sides of the EU issue over the last months but today watching a near demented presentation, both irrational and more like ridiculous ranting from Boris Johnson beats all of them so far.

How this man can be taken seriously totally mystifies me.

It's foolish to think that leaving will reduce immigration, naive in fact.

If we leave we'll need to renegotiate contracts with everyone in the EU and you can bet that one of the terms for those contracts will be a relaxed stance on immigration. All that leaving will do is put us in a worse position then we are currently and the only reason people want to do it is because they're fooling themselves into thinking it'll curb immigration.

Absolutely right Dezzy.

I feel as sure as I can be that the one thing just about all the remaining 27 Nations, we would be leaving behind in the EU, will insist on is that the only way they will ratify any deal for the UK, is if the UK accepts the full and free movement of EU citizens.

the world isn't the way it was 40 years ago when we joined. Everything has moved on, the majority for the better. Leaving the EU wont change the world we live in now and how we have to interact with it. I haven't seen a single claim yet from the out campaign that can actually be substantiated.

You forget that it is absolutely in all nations in the EU's interest to make a deal with us because they need us and it will hurt THEM if we put tarriffs on them.We do not have to accept free movement,We just don't sign.These nations need to trade with us.We are one of if not the biggest customer of their products.Not to mention that a deal is not necessary for trade.We trade perfectly fine with the US,China,Japan,Korea,African nations etc etc.
One thing is for sure.Immigration is uncontrollable whilst inside the EU.Nobody is saying to stop all immigration just that WE can decide the numbers and people we let in.For instance i would be in favour of taking a decent amount of refugees in if we actually had control of our borders.We could make that decision ourselves whilst keeping immigration down to manageable levels which our infrastructure can absorb.

dont you understand most EU nations are bankrupt? the whole thing is a disaster regardless what we vote. ONLY Germany and austria have strong economies....that will chnage eventually. the ONLY reason UK has done so well and created more jobs than all of europe put together, is simply because we kept the pound.
The pro EU lot tried to scare us to get rid of the pound too and called those against as xenophobic little englanders ........they were 100% wrong then and theyre 100% wrong now
meanwhile corbyn has been bullied into voting stay , he hates the eu

It's a very idealistic view and far from a realistic one

We aren't as vital to the EU as you make us out to be, if we were the EU would be bending over backwards to get us to stay but that's not the case. It ridiculous to make out that we don't need the EU when they are our biggest market and it would impact our economy considerably if we left and couldn't get the same deals back in place. Immigration will be a cause in the new deals if we leave, nothing will change for the better. It can only get worse since we'd be hashing out those deals from a weaker position.

People who are going to vote to leave are cutting off their noses to spite their face.

Ditto for me and I am doing my best to find any.
There are lots of ifs ,maybes and don't knows but nothing else at all really.

thats because all the national data is in the hands of the rich and powerful who are clearly scaring and brainwashing everyone into voting to stay in this illegal unaccountable corrupt wasteful unelected corporate serving corrupt bankrupt mega burocratic nightmare

Great Poltical Advert Shown tonight
on ITV, BBC ,Ch4 ,Ch5

A brilliant and truthful video report showing just how much of a mug we are by staying in the EU. And lets not forget if we do decide stay in they expect even MORE money.

Nothing great about it at all it is misleading.
It has been stated that the £350million a week figure is a misleading one to the voters, yet the leave campaign still uses it.
The real figure as was stated on the EU analysis on the news today is less than half that figure.

So there is no such thing as £350million a week saved to use for anything, and the real figure that is will be in reality less than half that amount.
Which will go next to nowhere likely in reality too, and for sure not do most, if any, of the things badly presented in that broadcast.

Until this lie of having £350million saved from not going to the EU every week is altered, the leave campaign every day it still uses it, loses even more of the little scrap of credibility it has left.

Those MP's asking voters to stay in the EU failed to name those people who actually run the EU when shown their pictures. Yet these same MP's want you to trust them and trust these total strangers from the EU who they can't even name themselves.:joker:

EU Net Migration Highest On Record

http://news.sky.com/story/1702361/eu...hest-on-record

I notice that a lot of the people telling us how we'll fall apart as a nation if we leave the EU, are the self-same people who told us we faced financial ruin if we didn't accept the Euro.

I'm glad we didn't listen to them then and I don't intend to listen to them now.

EXACTLY

Not to mention some of these organisations are EU funded.Hardly and unbiased "independent" view.