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Beso 31-05-2022 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11171631)
That literally makes NO SENSE ,and you have contradicted yourself. How did she allow people back to his penthouses then ?, And she was always going out with her friends and her sister was spending alot of time with her .

Even if she didn't report or seek medical attention straight away,there would still be medical examinations taken at some point ...especially with the horrific bottle abuse she claimed. I don't care what anyone says.. there would still be damage there.





Typical double standards, funny behaviour for an 'abuse victim ' . If I was scared of my husband I would NOT be inviting men back to his house left right & centre. And I would not be stupidly caught on CCTV elevator footage like she was. Just shows she ISN'T very bright .





She basically had her family around...everyone else probably came round when johnny was out of town.

Vanessa 31-05-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11171634)
She was having a breakdown...like Johnnie's outburst were.

She was taunting him. Not something someone who is terrified would do :suspect:

Vanessa 31-05-2022 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11171631)
That literally makes NO SENSE ,and you have contradicted yourself. How did she allow people back to his penthouses then ?, And she was always going out with her friends and her sister was spending alot of time with her .

Even if she didn't report or seek medical attention straight away,there would still be medical examinations taken at some point ...especially with the horrific bottle abuse she claimed. I don't care what anyone says.. there would still be damage there.





Typical double standards, funny behaviour for an 'abuse victim ' . If I was scared of my husband I would NOT be inviting men back to his house left right & centre. And I would not be stupidly caught on CCTV elevator footage like she was. Just shows she ISN'T very bright .

She accused Johnny of cheating. While she was the one cheating.

Beso 31-05-2022 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11171636)
She was taunting him. Not something someone who is terrified would do :suspect:

Again, abuse victims will taunt their abuser.

That's a fact

GoldHeart 31-05-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11171633)
I would be ok with it though, infact ive probably been secretly filmed being drunk in the past, and why mention a breakdown? We have not seen anyone having a breakdown!! Or are you saying johnny slamming cupboards and glasses is him having a breakdown, cause if you are then you.must assume any actions amber heard had with johnny, like slamming doors on him, or shouting at him or throwing bottles at him etc etc, well you got to accept that that is also a breakdown:shrug:

But you wont...


Ps, dont ever imagine what I would be om with..you dont know a thing about me.

You would be happy with your partner secretly filming you banging your kitchen up ,and getting drunk ???. What if she posted it online? .

Actually I already said several times that it's obvious AH was drunk as a skunk in some of the audio's,she sounds wasted / slurry . But it seems ok for her to take drugs & get drunk by looks of it? .

If she's so frightened of JD ,why did she slap him in his ear & repeatedly hit him & throw things at him ,she also pulled his hair. She's thrown that many hands.

Vanessa 31-05-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11171638)
Again, abuse victims will taunt their abuser.

That's a fact

While hitting them. That makes Amber the abuser.

Vanessa 31-05-2022 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11171640)
You would be happy with your partner secretly filming you banging your kitchen up ,and getting drunk ???. What if she posted it online? .

Actually I already said several times that it's obvious AH was drunk as a skunk in some of the audio's,she sounds wasted / slurry . But it seems ok for her to take drugs & get drunk by looks of it? .

If she's so frightened of JD ,why did she slap him in his ear & repeatedly hit him & throw things at him ,she also pulled his hair. She's thrown that many hands.

Of course it's perfectly acceptable for Amber to do drugs and hit Johnny. After all, she's a woman and they're allowed to punch who they want :bored:

GoldHeart 31-05-2022 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11171638)
Again, abuse victims will taunt their abuser.

That's a fact

whilst being as 'terrified' as she claimed she was ?? , But I thought you said JD was 'controlling' :whistle:. Why would a victim taunt their abuser unless they had a death wish :conf:.

Beso 31-05-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11171641)
While hitting them. That makes Amber the abuser.


this case isnt about that.:shrug:

Beso 31-05-2022 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11171644)
whilst being as 'terrified' as she claimed she was ?? , But I thought you said JD was 'controlling' :whistle:. Why would a victim taunt their abuser unless they had a death wish :conf:.

By not allowing her to film in the house, by grabbing and attempting to smash her phone when she does film in the house...well that kind of proves he is controlling.

thesheriff443 31-05-2022 08:39 AM

Maybe Johnny’s next victim while he off his face on drink and drugs will be a good girl and stay in the bedroom.

Women in this thread making excuses for him should be ashamed of yourselves.

Beso 31-05-2022 08:40 AM

By claiming he got her her movie parts, that's also very controlling.

user104658 31-05-2022 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11171645)
this case isnt about that.:shrug:

Exactly, I think people believe that it's a "whose side are you on/who is worse" trial? I don't think people realise that it's actually possible to be generally on Depp's side and STILL accept that Heard did not commit libel.

My main concern is that it's a bloody trial-by jury i.e. a bunch of laypeople, so I'm not convinced the jury will fully understand either.

Vanessa 31-05-2022 08:42 AM

No one is making excuses for him. Hes definitely not an angel in all this.
But I don't believe he ever hit Amber.
Amber hit Johnny and this is a fact.

Vanessa 31-05-2022 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11171648)
By claiming he got her her movie parts, that's also very controlling.

He did help to get her the Aquaman role.

Beso 31-05-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11171652)
He did help to get her the Aquaman role.

Again...you have taken jds word as gospel.

GoldHeart 31-05-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11171646)
By not allowing her to film in the house, by grabbing and attempting to smash her phone when she does film in the house...well that kind of proves he is controlling.

No he never stopped her filming in general . The reason he was upset/ distressed ,was because she was filming him without his permission & he was obviously not happy that day , we never actually see what happened before she started recording.

And she placed the phone on the counter , so he could easily grab it . That was more like her stopping him from grabbing it . She also lies to him when he confronts her about the filming. And he never actually took the phone off her, she still has it in her hand when the video ends.

She exploited his addiction , issues & sent the video to TMZ to make him look like a violent thug. Funny how she edited the video though but ok . And she denies the video came from her, despite us all seeing her filming him . If she's documenting 'proof' then why does she lie about the copyright & TMZ ? .

GoldHeart 31-05-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11171650)
No one is making excuses for him. Hes definitely not an angel in all this.
But I don't believe he ever hit Amber.
Amber hit Johnny and this is a fact.

Both JD & Camille have said he's not perfect & he's no saint,but he would not bring this trial out in the open on TV if he was a woman beater . Like Camille said .. his most private & embarrassing moments are out there, especially with the texts & his words. But he never once mentions assaulting or abusing AH .

KM testifying that he NEVER pushed her down the stairs once again clarifies alot of hearsay BS , She's a very private person yet she came forward to clear things up. Which speaks volumes.

Niamh. 31-05-2022 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11171640)
You would be happy with your partner secretly filming you banging your kitchen up ,and getting drunk ???. What if she posted it online? .

Actually I already said several times that it's obvious AH was drunk as a skunk in some of the audio's,she sounds wasted / slurry . But it seems ok for her to take drugs & get drunk by looks of it? .

If she's so frightened of JD ,why did she slap him in his ear & repeatedly hit him & throw things at him ,she also pulled his hair. She's thrown that many hands.

I mean I'd like to think I wouldn't be drunk and banging up the kitchen in the first place.......

Niamh. 31-05-2022 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11171613)
If Depp wins some women may finally stop making up false allegations. Really want Amber to be done for perjury.

wow.

GoldHeart 31-05-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11171665)
I mean I'd like to think I wouldn't be drunk and banging up the kitchen in the first place.......

Missing the point , what if you were still in a state of vulnerability or lost your temper .Or had an emotional breakdown.... and your loved one secretly filmed it like it was perfectly 'fine' ? . And to top it off they posted it online for people to see .

Niamh. 31-05-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11171667)
Missing the point , what if you were still in a state of vulnerability or lost your temper .Or had an emotional breakdown.... and your loved one secretly filmed it like it was perfectly 'fine' ? . And to top it off they posted it online for people to see .

He was stinking drunk not having an emotional breakdown ffs. The excuses people are making for this guy, jesus. A State of vulnerability, what people do you know behave like that when they're "vulnerable" ?

GoldHeart 31-05-2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11171669)
He was stinking drunk not having an emotional breakdown ffs. The excuses people are making for this guy, jesus. A State of vulnerability, what people do you know behave like that when they're "vulnerable" ?

Do you think it's ok to film someone drunk?. But we know that JD does have addiction problems & mental health issues , and he lost his mother around the same time of that video aswell i think.

Niamh. 31-05-2022 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11171672)
Do you think it's ok to film someone drunk?. But we know that JD does have addiction problems & mental health issues , and he lost his mother around the same time of that video aswell i think.

It's actually a common thing for people living with someone who has issues with drink to film them while drunk to show them when they're sober what they become like, have you never heard that before? So yes If I were living with an alcoholic and they became violent/abusive while drunk I absolutely think it's OK to film them while drunk. I'm willing to bet if it was some average joe from the council estate filmed drunk and banging up his kitchen no one would call him "vulnerable" either

GoldHeart 31-05-2022 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11171674)
It's actually a common thing for people living with someone who has issues with drink to film them while drunk to show them when they're sober what they become like, have you never heard that before? So yes If I were living with an alcoholic and they became violent/abusive while drunk I absolutely think it's OK to film them while drunk. I'm willing to bet if it was some average joe from the council estate filmed drunk and banging up his kitchen no one would call him "vulnerable" either

But why did she send the video to TMZ , and then lie about doing that.

As for the 'average joe' argument, if the video was posted online without his consent then that would be exploitive.


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