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Marsh. 06-04-2017 12:19 AM
:worry: That would actually be terrible.

Spoiler:

Unless it's literally a 10 second flashback showing how he became Missy.

Unless it's revealed he's not Missy at all. D:

Rob! 06-04-2017 12:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9273709)
:worry: That would actually be terrible.

Spoiler:

Unless it's literally a 10 second flashback showing how he became Missy.

Unless it's revealed he's not Missy at all. D:
God knows. Moffat is in free fall now.

I hope we get one last weeping angel story before he goes though.

Saph 06-04-2017 09:41 AM
nty to john simm

Saph 06-04-2017 09:42 AM
when is martha gonna make a comeback though.. shes like the only assistant not dead or in another universe or anything

user104658 06-04-2017 09:48 AM
Spoiler:

If they do regen Missy into John Simm then I can only imagine it's to gauge fan reaction with a view to bringing back either Tennant or Smith's doctor. Or even just opening that door for the future (someone could leave for a season and then return). Though I'm sure the concept of other timelords "revisiting old faces" has been mentioned in the show before...

On the other hand for him to be back for a couple of episodes they wouldn't have to be flashbacks OR him being a new version... They're time travellers... Surely they could just encounter him earlier in his timeline? Before he became Missy. We've had Tennant and Smith sat side by side, why not the Master and Missy getting up close and personal?

"It's not incest... We're MASTERbating muahahahaaa"

Tom4784 06-04-2017 11:10 AM
Spoiler:

Not here for John Simm, especially if they are are going back to him as a replacement for Missy. I'm hoping it's more of a cameo or perhaps something happens to Missy that causes her to split into two or something.



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Originally Posted by Saph (Post 9273961)
when is martha gonna make a comeback though.. shes like the only assistant not dead or in another universe or anything
I doubt we'll ever hear of her again, I think she's considered a bit of a failure. I feel bad for the actress because it's the writers' fault for trying to turn her into Rose 2.0

user104658 06-04-2017 11:16 AM
MarFAAA...

Yeah she was a bit of a filler-companion. Still not as bad as Catherine Tate though.

user104658 06-04-2017 11:19 AM
Though if it's at all possible, so far I'm finding Matt Lucas even more irritating :umm2:.

Tom4784 06-04-2017 11:25 AM
Yeah, I like having more than one companion but I just don't like his character all that much.

Saph 06-04-2017 11:31 AM
Donna was the best companion

Donna > Rose/Amy > Martha > Clara

Braden 06-04-2017 11:45 AM
I don't know if I've already said this, Russell T. Davies' era of Doctor Who was iconic. It all went downhill from when he left.

As much as I loved Doctor Who, I'm not sure if it's purely RTD that caused me to become a fan. I love most of his other work too (Cucumber, Queer as Folk, etc.)

Bring. Him. Back.

Tom4784 06-04-2017 11:46 AM
I'd place Clara above Martha tbh, she was pretty boring in her first season but they found a direction that worked when they paired her with Capaldi.

Donna > Amy/Rory > Clara > Rose (I don't think she was THAT great, looking back) > Martha.

Saph 06-04-2017 11:51 AM
season 1 rose was amazing

season 2 rose was just gagging for davids cock

Tom4784 06-04-2017 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 9274030)
I don't know if I've already said this, Russell T. Davies' era of Doctor Who was iconic. It all went downhill from when he left.

As much as I loved Doctor Who, I'm not sure if it's purely RTD that caused me to become a fan. I love most of his other work too (Cucumber, Queer as Folk, etc.)

Bring. Him. Back.
I thought he was a more consistent showrunner than Moffett but he had his problems. An overreliance on the Daleks were a big one, another issue were weak season long arcs that depended on keywords rather than actual build up (Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Saxon, Medusa Cascade/Bees). I also disliked how badly he handled most of his LGBT characters as they often felt like statements rather than actual characters which is surprising given that his claim to fame is mostly from well written gay themed shows.

Moffett's had his problems but the only really problematic season he's done was 7, I think. Matt Smith's first two seasons were good and both Capaldi seasons have been a return to form. Moffett's main issues were his need to overcomplicate everything and the fact that he was inconsistent but I think Capaldi's seasons so far have fixed some of those issues at least in part.

Ready for the new showrunner though.

Braden 06-04-2017 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9274037)
I thought he was a more consistent showrunner than Moffett but he had his problems. An overreliance on the Daleks were a big one, another issue were weak season long arcs that depended on keywords rather than actual build up (Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Saxon, Medusa Cascade/Bees). I also disliked how badly he handled most of his LGBT characters as they often felt like statements rather than actual characters which is surprising given that his claim to fame is mostly from well written gay themed shows.

Moffett's had his problems but the only really problematic season he's done was 7, I think. Matt Smith's first two seasons were good and both Capaldi seasons have been a return to form. Moffett's main issues were his need to overcomplicate everything and the fact that he was inconsistent but I think Capaldi's seasons so far have fixed some of those issues at least in part.

Ready for the new showrunner though.
See, I never really noticed a reliance on Daleks. Maybe because I was young and naive at the time, but I enjoyed all of the episodes that included them (except, ironically enough, the first one that reintroduced them...and even that wasn't so bad)). I liked the simplicity of key-word arcs, but again, that could be because I was quite young at the time. I'd much rather have subtle hints of keywords than the complicated and intricate story-telling of Moffatt's era. I feel like RTD's era did a good job of producing stand-alone episodes, but tied them all together quite nicely at certain points of relevance. The only Moffatt season that comes close to doing that is S5, and 'the crack in the wall' still grew to become tiresome—also, don't get me started on that shocking season finale.

I do agree with how he made LGBT characters appear more like statements rather than complex additions. I can't even think of any LGBT character he included apart from Captain Jack, who I enjoyed nonetheless.

I stopped watching during S6. I think the season being split into two parts was the final state for me. It was complicated enough without having to wait months and months to establish any sense to the narrative (which never usually happened anyway from what I gather :p).

Tom4784 06-04-2017 12:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Braden (Post 9274044)
See, I never really noticed a reliance on Daleks. Maybe because I was young and naive at the time, but I enjoyed all of the episodes that included them (except, ironically enough, the first one that reintroduced them...and even that wasn't so bad)). I liked the simplicity of key-word arcs, but again, that could be because I was quite young at the time. I'd much rather have subtle hints of keywords than the complicated and intricate story-telling of Moffatt's era. I feel like RTD's era did a good job of producing stand-alone episodes, but tied them all together quite nicely at certain points of relevance. The only Moffatt season that comes close to doing that is S5, and 'the crack in the wall' still grew to become tiresome—also, don't get me started on that shocking season finale.

I do agree with how he made LGBT characters appear more like statements rather than complex additions. I can't even think of any LGBT character he included apart from Captain Jack, who I enjoyed nonetheless.

I stopped watching during S6. I think the season being split into two parts was the final state for me. It was complicated enough without having to wait months and months to establish any sense to the narrative (which never usually happened anyway from what I gather :p).
Having the Daleks be the big bad in three our of four series was massively problematic for me. The problem with the keywords, I think is that there wasn't any real development. They'd throw in references and wait until the last block of episodes for a payoff.

Captain Jack is a sore spot for me and a big reason why I dislike Russell. Jack's meant to be bisexual (not bothering with the silly stand in sexuality they came up with in the show) but the only time he ever felt like a bisexual character was in his first appearances in the Empty Child two parter and even then that was mired by the stereotype of Bi people being overly flirty/promiscuous. Once Russell got his hands on him he straight up dropped the bisexuality and made him gay which I find particularly offensive since that's just another stereotype checked off the list. Bisexuality is woefully represented in most TV shows and it bothers me that Russell T. Davies would take one that was mostly well written (Flirty stereotype aside) and would turn him into another gay character for no reason than his own ego.

user104658 06-04-2017 12:50 PM
I agree about the captain Jack sexuality thing... They introduced him with this really interesting concept of being from a future with a completely fluid in sexuality; he was into women, men, aliens, whatever so long as he found them attractive. It was an interesting take on sexual enlightenment. But past his initial couple of episodes... That evaporated and he was quite clearly gay in terms of sexuality. He had some emotional connections with depth with female characters, but any real "love interest" or character he showed any sexual desire for, was always a human male. I agree that it's problematic for people that are genuinely bisexual. It furthers that stereotype that anyone claiming to be bisexual is simply half-in-the-closet and will eventually come out as gay.

Braden 06-04-2017 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9274059)
Having the Daleks be the big bad in three our of four series was massively problematic for me. The problem with the keywords, I think is that there wasn't any real development. They'd throw in references and wait until the last block of episodes for a payoff.

Captain Jack is a sore spot for me and a big reason why I dislike Russell. Jack's meant to be bisexual (not bothering with the silly stand in sexuality they came up with in the show) but the only time he ever felt like a bisexual character was in his first appearances in the Empty Child two parter and even then that was mired by the stereotype of Bi people being overly flirty/promiscuous. Once Russell got his hands on him he straight up dropped the bisexuality and made him gay which I find particularly offensive since that's just another stereotype checked off the list. Bisexuality is woefully represented in most TV shows and it bothers me that Russell T. Davies would take one that was mostly well written (Flirty stereotype aside) and would turn him into another gay character for no reason than his own ego.
I think for me, as I've mentioned, age is a key factor. I liked that RTD made Doctor Who a family show, and the simplicity of the narrative is something that I enjoyed. I've always wanted to re-watch his era again, so it'll be interesting to see if my opinion change now that I'm older.

Yeah, the only time I remember Jack flauting his sexuality was the episode where The Master re-appears. I think it was named 'Utopia', and they specifically had him flirt with a woman, man and alien throughout the episode. I'm not really sure what to make of it now, but it definitely reinforces the stereotype you mentioned that bisexuals are overly flirtatious and sexual. I can see why that would be an issue with viewers. From what I know, he was essentially turned into a 'gay character' within Torchwood?

Glenn. 06-04-2017 02:34 PM
I agree with Dezzy on the dalek thing. The overuse of the Daleks irritated me too.. RTD definitely relied on them too much. I couldn't believe the S3 Finale didn't feature one of them. I liked that Moffat rested them somewhat and when he bought them back there was progression with them and they wasn't just there to destroy the universe etc. Can a Dalek have character development?

Pete. 06-04-2017 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9273637)
According to the sun

Spoiler:

John Simm is back as the master
My time to leave :amazed:

Glenn. 06-04-2017 03:59 PM
Just been confirmed by the BBC

Spoiler:

John Simm will return as The Master to battle The Doctor (Peter Capaldi), new companion Bill Potts (Pearl Mackie) and Nardole (Matt Lucas) in the forthcoming series of Doctor Who.

John Simm says: “I can confirm that it’s true, thanks to the power of time travel I’m back. It’s always a pleasure to work with this great team of people and I can’t wait for you all to see what The Master gets up to in the next series. “

Steven Moffat, writer and executive producer, says: “Nothing stays secret for long on Doctor Who but you’ll have to wait a little bit longer to see exactly what The Master is up to and how he makes his return to face the Doctor. It’s been a huge pleasure to have fan favourites John Simm and Michelle Gomez face to face in the same role! It’s not often you get to see a solo personality clash.”

John Simm was last seen as The Master on New Year’s Day 2010. Viewers will have to wait to see exactly when and how The Master will return to the new series, which starts on Saturday 15 April at 7:20pm on BBC One.

As previously announced, Doctor Who series ten will also star Michelle Gomez as Missy – a later regeneration of The Master. Other returning foes include the Daleks, the Ice Warriors and – returning for the first time in almost fifty years – the Mondasian Cybermen. An exciting line up of new faces and adversaries will debut across the series, including adorable-but-deadly Emojibots and David Suchet as The Landlord.

Tom4784 06-04-2017 04:03 PM
Here for Missy scalping him and all of us in the process.

Jarrod 08-04-2017 11:22 PM
DOCTOR WHO - S10 EP1 - THE PILOT
Saturday 15th April @ 7:20pm

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p04zc7tx.jpg

Two worlds collide when the Doctor meets Bill, and a chance encounter with a girl with a star in her eye leads to a terrifying chase across time and space. Bill's mind is opened to a universe that is bigger and more exciting than she could possibly have imagined. But who is the Doctor, and what is his secret mission on Earth?

Cast:
Spoiler:

The Doctor - Peter Capaldi
Bill - Pearl Mackie
Nardole - Matt Lucas
Moira - Jennifer Hennessy
Heather - Stephanie Hyam
Voice of the Daleks - Nicholas Briggs
Director - Lawrence Gough
Producer - Peter Bennett
Executive Producer - Steven Moffat
Executive Producer - Brian Minchin
Writer - Steven Moffat

Ross. 08-04-2017 11:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 9274243)
Just been confirmed by the BBC

Spoiler:

John Simm will return as The Master to battle The Doctor (Peter Capaldi), new companion Bill Potts (Pearl Mackie) and Nardole (Matt Lucas) in the forthcoming series of Doctor Who.

John Simm says: “I can confirm that it’s true, thanks to the power of time travel I’m back. It’s always a pleasure to work with this great team of people and I can’t wait for you all to see what The Master gets up to in the next series. “

Steven Moffat, writer and executive producer, says: “Nothing stays secret for long on Doctor Who but you’ll have to wait a little bit longer to see exactly what The Master is up to and how he makes his return to face the Doctor. It’s been a huge pleasure to have fan favourites John Simm and Michelle Gomez face to face in the same role! It’s not often you get to see a solo personality clash.”

John Simm was last seen as The Master on New Year’s Day 2010. Viewers will have to wait to see exactly when and how The Master will return to the new series, which starts on Saturday 15 April at 7:20pm on BBC One.

As previously announced, Doctor Who series ten will also star Michelle Gomez as Missy – a later regeneration of The Master. Other returning foes include the Daleks, the Ice Warriors and – returning for the first time in almost fifty years – the Mondasian Cybermen. An exciting line up of new faces and adversaries will debut across the series, including adorable-but-deadly Emojibots and David Suchet as The Landlord.
I'm lowkey perched NOT SORRY

Morgan. 09-04-2017 07:56 AM
Why did I read Peter Bennett as Pete Bennett? :joker:


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