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Gusto Brunt 05-12-2022 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11236937)
On SkyNewsHD now


He hopes to get his idea of the House of Lords
done in his first term.


He also states Wales and Scotland
has resolved Strike deals


https://news.sky.com/story/sir-keir-...plans-12761863


Yes, and he wants to abolish second jobs for MPs. Something I think is well overdue. There are many MPs like that horrendous David Lammy and Esther McVey who behave as if they're NOT MPs. Both spend more time writing in the newspapers and being on TV and radio.

It makes me furious when I see Esther McVey presenting TV shows on GB News as if she is a free agent. :fist: The greed on her face is apparent. She's an MP. BE AN MP. AND NOTHING ELSE.
:fist::fist:

I do hope Starmer puts this policy into action. It's well overdue.

Thanks.:hee::laugh:

joeysteele 05-12-2022 08:45 AM

I applaud this idea.

Although I'd like to hear a lot of the detail too.
An elected chamber instead of the Lords.
Great.
HOW would he want it elected, by first past the post or a PR system.
If not PR what's the point of again having under half the votes cast dictating with an overall status in the new chamber.
That is a concern.

If he would like PR for the second chamber then why not go all the way and adopt the policy of PR overwhelmingly supported at Conference this year for general elections too.

He does really NEED to spell out at least a bit of the finer detail of things he proposes.

I applaud most of what he is proposing but I wish he'd get over the fear of going much further on other issues which could turn off some voters.
Which I doubt really would turn them off IF he showed the conviction and passion for them.
Such as taking energy at least into public ownership.

He does I'm sure believe that right to look at and do and I still believe most of the Country would applaud that policy too.

I'd like him to and hope he will, as the election approaches really go for massively changing policies on a good number of issues.
The chance is there but he doesn't need to risk that chance disappearing by a lack of boldness on his part.

This House of Lords idea though and more powers to the rest of the UK.
Certainly that should prove a vote winner no doubt.
I just want him to return to the things he still claims he's open on.
Because if he was to present the things he really still knows he could support then he'd come across better presenting such policies.

arista 05-12-2022 09:02 AM

Yes Elected Lords

Starmer hopes to bring it in on his first term.
We need to hear what the Old Gits in the House of Lords
have to say on this.

arista 05-12-2022 09:05 AM

His Live Speech
in Leeds will be Live shortly

Gordon Brown
is now talking SkyNewsHD and BBCnewsHD

arista 05-12-2022 09:09 AM

New Britain


Their buzz words

arista 05-12-2022 09:14 AM

Starmer now Live


3 News Channels


Pathetic LBC is wasting his time on Hancock

arista 05-12-2022 09:23 AM

Press are now asking him Questions

arista 05-12-2022 09:50 AM

BBC News left Starmer
at 10:35PM


Good on SkyNewsHD Live staying in Leeds

arista 05-12-2022 03:13 PM

Starmer Live in Edinburgh

Gordon Brown also there.


Their New Britain Plan.


SkyNewsHD

Now

arista 06-12-2022 01:19 PM

Starmer told Kay Burley

Illegal Migrants are to be tagged.



Starmer
getting on the Voting Angle


Sign Of the Times

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2239259.html

The Slim Reaper 06-12-2022 01:24 PM

Outflanking the tories from the right definitely doesn't make him right wing. No no no.

Won't support workers though.

bots 06-12-2022 01:27 PM

Starmer will embrace any policy that he thinks will get him elected

Oliver_W 06-12-2022 01:28 PM

Would the left wing thing to do be to just let the illegals go?

arista 06-12-2022 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11237387)
Starmer will embrace any policy that he thinks will get him elected

Yes, he is making sure of that.

arista 06-12-2022 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11237388)
Would the left wing thing to do be to just let the illegals go?



You need to view Starmer
like New Labour was.


The next General Election
Corbyn is out of Labour for good
his Punishment for losing the General Election.

The Slim Reaper 06-12-2022 01:36 PM

offering voters that are fed up with tories, tories but a bit crueler isn't a surefire way to win elections. Polls are already back to a hung parliament, so maybe he needs to offer a different choice for once.

He's doing this at the same time as refusing to back nurses and other workers.

arista 06-12-2022 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11237391)
offering voters that are fed up with tories, tories but a bit crueler isn't a surefire way to win elections. Polls are already back to a hung parliament, so maybe he needs to offer a different choice for once.

He's doing this at the same time as refusing to back nurses and other workers.


Yes Starmer is afraid of that.


On the Nurses when they Strike we will
see what Starmer says, then.

joeysteele 06-12-2022 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11237409)
Yes Starmer is afraid of that.


On the Nurses when they Strike we will
see what Starmer says, then.

A hung parliament wouldn't bother me one bit.

Every other Party bar the DUP would never support the Cons back in governnent anyhow.

However as much as polling can be believed there's NOT a single poll out to now that indicates a hung parliament currently
The lowest lead for Labour presently in any is 14% then up to other leads of from 20% to 23%

Even the lowest one indicates, if right, an overall majority of anything from 50, the other larger poll leads indicate up to well over 100+

I'd like to see any current poll that disputes that.

However as I'm not in favour of massive overall majorities for any Party with under 50% of the votes cast.
I'd prefer more accountable government that can be held more to account too with only a small or even NO overall majority in place.

Tony Blair had around 44% of votes in 1997 and got a 170+ overall majority
That is an obscenity to democracy.

As to the Nurses strike.
Starmer better back the Nurses.
It will be shameful if he doesn't

I back them all the way and think it a disgrace this government has brought the nurses to the point they are today.
Undervalued and treated like they're mess on the Con Party's shoes.
Absolutely shocking.

The Slim Reaper 06-12-2022 03:38 PM

14 pts leads to a hung parliament, leaving labour 3 seats short of an ovr majority, according to polls which don't exist apparently.

Changes in boundaries since Blairs time are having an effect.

arista 08-12-2022 09:47 AM

Starmer Live now

SkyNewsHD

Canary Wharf

Oliver_W 08-12-2022 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11238236)
Starmer Live now

SkyNewsHD

Canary Wharf

Anything particular?

arista 08-12-2022 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11238237)
Anything particular?


In Association
with HSBC bank

Talking about the Economy.

Was only on for 5 mins
SkyNewsHD then went back to Business Live

arista 08-12-2022 10:52 AM

Also, from the LBC Political Reporter
Who spoke to Starmer.

Starmer has to be ready to take over the Government
if all the Strikes and Civil Servant strikes
stop the Government working.

Oliver_W 08-12-2022 10:56 AM

Apparently Labour are planning to ban VPNs in the UK? Which is just ridiculous, complete overreach.

arista 08-12-2022 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11238272)
Apparently Labour are planning to ban VPNs in the UK? Which is just ridiculous, complete overreach.

More a crackdown on them

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2239810.html


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