i haven't said anyone is obsessed king,simply that dennis is quite within his rights to make a thread like this even if others do exist as there are just as many if not more hate threads...

You're the first person to say my dislike of Norin is scary. Please, how so? I dont call her a slag or anything like that so why are you being so harsh?

It wasnt you who said anyone was obsessed. Sorry about that.

*Noirin has openly admitted to needing others to desire her in order to feel attractive.

She admitted that in her Vt and i am assuming that is something she does, i am also ASSUMING she is doing it now, however it is not a FACT.

*Noirin has openly admitted (repeatedly) that she uses her looks and personality to manipulate others to get what she wants.

If she has said this i missed it. Are you sure she did not say something that made you assume that's what she meant, i.e speculation mascarading as fact?

True she was dishonest with Siavash i.e not telling him she fancied Tom, and wanted to cool thing's with him, i will ASSUME she wanted to cool things with Siavash so she could get it on with Tom.

She does not seem to know which fruit is the juicier does she.

Is she manipulating all the men. It's possible but i don't know, i saw the VT yesterday and it is revealing and can see why people are calling it the way they are.

I rewatched her vid after she'd been in a week and was shocked to see that she was the person on the VT. Usually we expect the HM's to exagerate and embellish in their VT's. Not Norin she's turning out to be exactly the same as she is in her VT .

All Noirin wants is a bit of slap and tickle, no harm there, it is the men who want a flipping marriage commitment

BRING BACK THE FUN IN BB PLEASE!

I have yet to see the ho be " nice to men" in fact shes been the opposite ,shes trod on them and wiped her feet on them

Yes i am Tint and as i said in my OP i will continue to do so and have no intention of stopping despite comments now made about me and threatening u2u's.

Also if the people in this thread bothered to read,i said if you don't like my threads press 'ignore'.

I don't actually care what people think of me or my Noirin threads as i am dealing with truth rather than petty name calling and exaggerated stories which i left behind at Junior School.

Accept my threads or press 'ignore' and move on.

How very dare you! tintedShadow!

Seriously though. I can't see the contradiction in the two version's

I'm sorry but I disagree. And here is why: I am a Freddie fan. I hope he wins. However, I don't believe that he is perfect and that some of the people who don't like him still make valid points about him. I choose to like him anyway regardless of his faults. I also accept the fact that some people don't have the same opinion as me. And that is fine as long as we both remain respectful of each other's opinion. For example, this is fine: "I don't agree with you when you say X because when he did this...." This is not fine: "You must be a moron for liking someone like that."

However, there are some (and dennis is not the only one) who tend to support their favorite housemate by ignoring all faults to almost an obsessive degree. Anyone who mentions something wrong with them are just "haters." The fact that the OP said (paraphrased) that he didn't care who didn't like the fact that he creates so many pro-Noirin threads and would continue to do so as long as people create anti-Noirin threads. It is almost an ultimatum. And the problem with these types is that they actually more likely to turn more people against their beloved housemate than to get people to start liking them because of their tactics.

No housemate is perfect. We just prefer some over others despite their faults.

Great post.:thumbs:

How dare you say i am obsessive and ignore her faults. Read my threads!!!

I recognise her faults as i do everyone elses but the point of all my threads is to defend hher against the pathetic,childish sick,abuse aimed at her for no reason.

I deal in facts not the disintigration of a womans character who has actually done nothing sexual apart from kiss one housemate.

In future do not juge me on what you think you know as you will end up looking like the people who make offensive comments about Noirin.

Obsessed no,supporter of Noirin yes.

First of all, if I told you that I liked grapes and then you saw me repeatedly eating grapes, I think you could conclude it is a fact that I like grapes. Noirin said at least twice that I recall back when she was drawing on the glasses that she needed others to desire her in order to feel attractive. She has acted out that same mentality. So, yes, to me, that is a fact.

You doubt that Noirin has said that she enjoys manipulating? Not only has she boasted of it within the house. She also boasted on her audition video:

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...c91a02/play.c4

forgive me but going off what you said,noirin was intending to drop siavash for tom..which is simply not true.. noirin had admited to being attracted to tom and fancying siavash,she may also have said she wanted to "fook him every day" but that is not to say she wanted nothing to do with siavash..

futhermore all those who believe noirin only jumped back on siavash's tip the minute tom left will surely realise she did still have a cuddle and a kiss with siavash the day tom left.. to say noirin is going for siavash when she could have tom is simply untrue.. and once more i feel i must point out she has done nothing wrong,freddie has done much the same as noirin (if you need me to ellaborate just say so),and bea is turning out to be much the same yet only this much hate for noirin?

big brother is an experience you get to enjoy only once,so she's enjoying her time in the house,nothing more nothing less..

Hear hear!!

Noirin is a a black widow. She likes to lead them on, tells them they got no chance but still give out the hugs and the kisses on cheeks and other flirtatious behaviour.

As a woman who has had to reject men in the past who have also been friends, i have made sure that i have NOT carried on givin the hugs, the kisses and i ahve tottally cut out the flirting with that bloke so as not to lead him on further. Noirin has not.


Oh but what happened to her bf? the one she kept saying she loved?

Cheat!!!!

i take your point some members do tend to take their obsessions too far,but i dont consider dennis one of those,he has admited faults in noirin and others just feel the need to goad him in to some foolish war of words which is not productive in the slightlest..

far be it for me to defend dennis as he can do so without the likes of me,but he has done nothing but post a thread on a housemate who he favours,and as some blindly hate noirin he may get a little defencive just as you see his admiration for noirin as obsessive and OTT..

forgive me but i feel this forum is big enough to have those who hate noirin,and those who feel she isnt as bad as the rest make out..if we are to have threads saying "noirins a bitch get her out" i see no reason why a thread such as this cant be around also?

She wanted nothing to do with Siavash.... she told the girls in the kitchen that in the real world she'd go with Tom and just ignore Siavash and Marcus. She said this to the two girls. She had every intention of going for Tom and just playing Siavash for a fool. Just ignore a friend? She also said that she felt she had kissed Siavash cuz she was just bored in the house. That she wouldn't even approach him if she saw him in a bar....distancing herself from him in her discussions with Dogface and with Bea.

Then when he left she got so angry and knew she had dug a hole for herself. Now she's continuing to play Siavash while telling others that they're just friends.

You must be very happy. BORED

i wish a mod would just merge all your threads together because they are all the same and full of complete ****

that would be her ex?hardly a cheat,and may i also point out siavash is the one with a lover on the outside not noirin..

i see no reason why flirtatious behavior is even an issue,we are not talking about 5 year old boys at the park,these are grown men who should know to listen when a woman insists they not persue her,yet marcus was still her friend who she had looked up to,so if he had a down day she would offer him a hug,as the days passed by and marcus's feelings developed further noirin was advised to stop with the cuddles and she did just that..

Could you be one of those blokes who gets sucked into her web of seduction? If you cannot see how she is manipulating the men then there is no hope for you im affraid.

she lead Shree on for a short while but she gave up on him when she realised Marcus was the dominant of the 2. She rejected Marcus but still flirted, kissed hugged and cuddled up to him, which in my opinion is leading him on. She knows how he felt about her but she carried on doing what she was doing. Then she moved onto Siavash but went on to say she wanted a piece of Tom.

Please correct me if im wrong, but she has just about managed to get through 50% of the straight men in that house.

She doesnt deserve the same kind of respect that a faithful woman deserves. Where i come from she would be branded as a sl*g and most of the men would treat her like a piece of sexual meat that they have to conquer.

I think the difference is that dennis doesn't just create one thread. He creates several and he keeps creating more and more. I just counted and there are 5 threads by him currently on the front page of the forum. All of them are about Noirin. That is a bit excessive, don't you think? I could see if he started one a day or something like that.

this will be the last time we discuss this so listen carefully..you see things one way,thats fine i see them slightly diffrently..

personally noirin saying i wouldnt even aproach siavash if i saw him in a bar,means she has met siavash in the house and got to know him which is not the case when your on the outside,like luke meeting bex last year,he wouldn't ever get a girl like her but they got to know each other in the house so thats what happened with this..

further more what noirin had said was she likes tom,and likes siavash,she did not say she would drop siavash for tom,she was unsure of what to do and bea advised her to try and rid herself of her feelings for tom and focus on siavash..

now one last point,noirin did not say i kissed siavash because i was bored,she said there was nothing to do in the house so there isnt much to do so she had more time to think about her feelings and thus confronted them that night,may i also add it was siavash who kissed noirin..

noirin likes siavash,siavash likes noirin..so lets not go on as if noirin slipped rohypnol in to siavash's cider..

Sorry but i on numerous occasions heard her say she has a boyfriend and she loves him. If Siavash has a gf then he too is a cheat and doesn't deserve any respect.

When a man is rejected and really likes a girl, it is down to the girl to STOP flirting with him, its not nice for him to recieve those mixed signals. Would you like the girl of your dreams rejecting you then going on to kissing, cuddling you then 5 mins later reject you again? I don't think you would, nobody would. Everything Marcus did he did for his own pleasure, he wanted those hugs because he fancied her, he wanted those kisses cus he fancied her NOT cus he was a friend, if he were a friend and only a freidn he would NOT have gone off on one when she kissed Siavash. Friends don't go off on one when their friend fancies someone else.

Hahahahahah..it might be the last time YOU discuss this but won't be my last!! I didnt say she kissed him cus she was bored lol Please direct me to where i said it?

I also didnt say Siavash wasnt to blame either lol don't twist my words, it doesn't make you look good.