but i am black, do you mean against Muslims?

Originally Posted by Stu
Those pots and kettles are out in full force today. In fact, I think I hear one boiling over at the should TiBB change it's name thread.

"that pot is a racist"

Sounded like I was the pot! Correct me if I am wrong!

since the pot called the kettle black I just meant that in the saying the pot (in this pc world) should be branded a racist.

lol i did not mean you!

no, because theyve been good people...
Fighting for their country,, i dont believe in heaven and hell though :Dlolage!

Sorry, my mistake!

Bless you - I will never say anything horrid about J&E again!:dance:

have you ever been to Croydon?

Fighting For Their Country?


Iraq Ain't part of 9/11
And it is not pat of any USA or UK Empire.


They are being put into a Mess made by Bush/Blair /One Eyed Scottish Brown
Utter Fact.

Lovely little spot. Plenty of err ... character.

If you believe in religeon, then no, wars are neccesary to protect people

I don't quiet know where to start with that one...

Theres no such thing as hell so no
Only silly people think they would

What do you mean? It's basically the same as self protection, I was under impression that murdering in cold blood for no good reason was a sin

:shocked:

Followed by...

:joker:

War isn't as simple as that, and it's almost never for straightforward self protection. Again, the commandment states 'Thou Shalt Not Kill', I didn't know it had a footnote.

So I take it, in your book, that applies to all the soldiers that fought and died in WWs 1&2 as well!

For the soldiers it is, shoot, or get shot

If your writing my book for me, sure, go on ahead...

Yeah but they did not go out there for a game of Counter Strike. It's all more politically complicated than that, and I doubt rel -

Okay, I just cant even argue this. I can feel my brain crying out for help :laugh2:.

Exactly! :thumbs:

I imagine in religious terms the correct answer would be to not even place yourself in that situation in the first place and practice your peace, thereby removing the need for such a ludicrous, dangerous scenario.

Seriously, it's not fucking paintball.

And it's not paintball to realise that if they didn't - you may have to! So, in a way, by doing so - they help save your neck!

Just in case you missed it the first time. I'm talking strictly religious terms here, not socio political terms - because that's the angle Chewy was approaching it from before you dived in pheromone first.

I imagine Jesus rather I stay at home and keep the peace.

I'm sure war is mentioned in the bible, the old testament at least, but from my catholic upbringing, war was never mentioned as going against our religeon

War is mentioned many different times. But obviously war back then was very different to war now. It's such a colored and complicated issue. I just think things like your Catholic upbringing is not exactly a definite authority on such a colored issue. It's certainly not as black and white as 'Shoot to defend = Good'.

It is also not so black and white as to say - "Though Shalt Not Kill"! 'Shoot to defend therefore = bad'.

Again, I AM ARGUING THIS WITHIN A RELIGIOUS CONTEXT.

Repeat ad nausea.