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setanta 15-12-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2765331)
Not poppy littles shites who do covers. That is not music, that is just shite.

That's how thick he knows the public are - he doesn't even get a writer to produce a new song. lol. It's staggering really when you think about it.

Jack_ 15-12-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2765310)
Oh, you don't get it do you? Simon has you right where he wants and you wont know it until in about 10 years and you'll laugh about how gullible you were while Simon is sipping Martini's on his own island with his own harem, laughing at how stupid and easily controlled the British population are.

Thanks for pretty much insulting me. :thumbs:

Of course I get it. The control Simon has over the UK charts is unbelievable, and bad - there's no denying that. I never once said that I liked his control over the charts, just that you don't really have any right to moan unless you're going to come up with an alternative. It's as simple as that.

Yes it's an appauling site when all you see is XF acts and guests everywhere in the Top 40, but what do you or other people intend to do about it?

MissKittyFantastico 15-12-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2765332)
Yep, me too but RATM will have to do right now.

But I don't want that either!

InOne 15-12-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight (Post 2765335)
Just because you don't like it. it doesn't mean its ****.

It is not a matter of opinion. It is what it is, a poppy cover of another pop song which is pretty much, shite. It all sounds the same and you idiots lap it up.

InOne 15-12-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2765336)
That's how thick he knows the public are - he doesn't even get a writer to produce a new song. lol. It's staggering really when you think about it.

Yeah, what a lazy rubbish option really.

setanta 15-12-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 2765340)
Thanks for pretty much insulting me. :thumbs:

Of course I get it. The control Simon has over the UK charts is unbelievable, and bad - there's no denying that. I never once said that I liked his control over the charts, just that you don't really have any right to moan unless you're going to come up with an alternative. It's as simple as that.

Yes it's an appauling site when all you see is XF acts and guests everywhere in the Top 40, but what do you or other people intend to do about it?

I didn't really insult you so don't try to be a victim here. Just stating that you're playing right into his hands, which is obviously the case and you're just emphasizing that point.

There's always other options in life if you look hard enough for them..... George Michael has released a wonderful Xmas record but X Factor is going to win with a charmless cover version.

Twilight 15-12-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2765343)
It is not a matter of opinion. It is what it is.

Thats just being Ignorant then.

Jack_ 15-12-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2765349)
I didn't really insult you so don't try to be a victim here. Just stating that you're playing right into his hands, which is obviously the case and you're just emphasizing that point.

There's always other options in life if you look hard enough for them..... George Michael has released a wonderful Xmas record but X Factor is going to win with a charmless cover version.

Fair enough.

That's also a fair point, but as I said, what do you intend to do to get this George Michael track to Christmas #1?

It's no use complaining about it unless you're willing to offer some constructive and large scale input.

InOne 15-12-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight (Post 2765354)
Thats just being Ignorant then.

It's really not. He does not write his own songs or music. He is the product of a squeaky clean 'singing' competition, he sings what he is told to sing, says what he is told to say. He is a puppet, that is not an artist, and that is not music.

Patrick 15-12-2009 07:34 PM

Is the Music Video out yet? for Joe

setanta 15-12-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 2765358)
Fair enough.

That's also a fair point, but as I said, what do you intend to do to get this George Michael track to Christmas #1?

It's no use complaining about it unless you're willing to offer some constructive and large scale input.

I don't have to do anything- all of you have to just snap out of this zombie-like state that Simon has placed you under.

WOMBAI 15-12-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 2765322)
Posting on a forum which has what, 10,000 members? Is publicly exposing him?

You seem to be acting as if I've killed someone. When you take into account that there are far more homophobes who simply hate him for his 'assumed sexuality', I think you'll find that I've done no wrong by expressing my opinion on his sexuality in a fair, but not insulting way. I'd imagine Joe is more concerned about the people who hate him because of all of this, not the people who are just merely wondering what his sexuality is!

But questioning his sexuality is what has created those homophobes in the first place! You may not have meant it to be insulting - but to suggest that someone is gay/bisexual when they have never stated that they are - is insulting! If he isn't - then it is untrue. If he is - then he clearly doesn't want to divulge that to the rest of the world. And it is no one else's place to do so.

Personally - I don't believe for one minute that he is - and it has bugger all to do with his singing. Why do people have to get so personal?

Stephanie 15-12-2009 07:42 PM

pmsl are you trying to say that jack is homophobic?

WOMBAI 15-12-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2765359)
It's really not. He does not write his own songs or music. He is the product of a squeaky clean 'singing' competition, he sings what he is told to sing, says what he is told to say. He is a puppet, that is not an artist, and that is not music.

To be fair - he has to be those things at the moment - to win the competition and to fulfill his contract. He is only 18 - in time, if he becomes an established singer - he will be in more of a position to dictate his own terms and produce his own style of music.

Jack_ 15-12-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2765383)
But questioning his sexuality is what has created those homophobes in the first place! You may not have meant it to be insulting - but to suggest that someone is gay/bisexual when they have never stated that they are - is insulting! If he isn't - then it is untrue. If he is - then he clearly doesn't want to divulge that to the rest of the world. And it is no one else's place to do so.

Personally - I don't believe for one minute that he is - and it has bugger all to do with his singing. Why do people have to get so personal?

Of course it's not. Homophobes are scared of homosexual people because it's not seen as the 'normal' thing to do, and if they are seen to be supporting them - they think they'll be looked down upon. They're narrow minded and ignorant people. It's got nothing to do with questioning peoples sexuality, that's just showing interest (whether good or bad). All part of human nature.

I'll accept your opinion that it is insulting then. I admit, I was quick to judge, but as I have said it's part of human nature, and that's also why people get so personal.

Jack_ 15-12-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephanie (Post 2765396)
pmsl are you trying to say that jack is homophobic?

If she is, then that's the biggest load of shite I've heard since Michelle McManus being set to become the next Cheryl Cole. :joker:

Stephanie 15-12-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 2765413)
If she is, then that's the biggest load of shite I've heard since Michelle McManus being set to become the next Cheryl Cole. :joker:

LMAO :joker:

WOMBAI 15-12-2009 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 2765413)
If she is, then that's the biggest load of shite I've heard since Michelle McManus being set to become the next Cheryl Cole. :joker:

Of course I am not trying to say you are homophobic! I am saying that just because it is not an issue for you - it may be for him - particularly if he is not! People should not make assumptions about people's sexuality - without very good reason!

Jack_ 15-12-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2765430)
Of course I am not trying to say you are homophobic! I am saying that just because it is not an issue for you - it may be for him - particularly if he is not! People should not make assumptions about people's sexuality - without very good reason!

Well as I've said, I was quick to judge and yes it's wrong. But it's human nature and something that will come naturally to the majority of people - whether you'll admit it or not.

Fom 15-12-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2765359)
It's really not. He does not write his own songs or music. He is the product of a squeaky clean 'singing' competition, he sings what he is told to sing, says what he is told to say. He is a puppet, that is not an artist, and that is not music.

Give him chance! Many people have come from singing competitions and now release their own material. This is him making his entrance into the business, don't try and assume what he is going to make in the future.

MeMyselfAndI 15-12-2009 07:57 PM

Good, i hope he crashes nd burns

InOne 15-12-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fom (Post 2765441)
Give him chance! Many people have come from singing competitions and now release their own material. This is him making his entrance into the business, don't try and assume what he is going to make in the future.

Well it's the fact he is ruining another X Mas number 1 that is most annoying. He himself should take a stand but of course he won't he can see the £££, and lets face it, the way he comes across, I think he will just go with whatever the record company throws at him. He has nothing that stands out about him at all.

setanta 15-12-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fom (Post 2765441)
Give him chance! Many people have come from singing competitions and now release their own material. This is him making his entrance into the business, don't try and assume what he is going to make in the future.

Well I might buy his music if - a fecking staggeringly huge if by the way- that happens, but in the mean time I want a song to topple X Factor off it's Christmas perch because it's getting tiresome and depressing.

MarkWaldorf 15-12-2009 09:43 PM

Joe isn't 'trailing' behind. RATM sold 83,000 in TWO days, Joe sold 77,000 in ONE day - so if he's actually selling twice as much as them.

Lewis. 15-12-2009 10:53 PM

Susan Boyle for Christmas no 1 ;D


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