what odds now Spain foe the Cup?

I'd say 20-1.

:laugh2: Who would've thought..

England can feel much better about themselves now cosidering how the majority of the top teams have performed.

France draw against a relatively easy opponent.
Argentina just win against an easy opponent.
Italy draw when they should've won.
Brazil were underwhelming against the worst team in the tournament.
And now Spain lose to a far more inferior oponent..

And England draw against a solid team, from a silly mistake, it definitely looks much better in hindsight.

about 5/1

If that is so, then it's just because money is locked into them. Where you can lay, Betfair, I bet they have drifted nearer 20.

First round of games is over now

Now lets hope for a goal fest!!

Well said :D

The only thing I'm worried about is if we don't finish top of the group we could meet Germany (if they finish top) and judging from their perfomance the other night they could cause us big problems.

Makes me feel better about Englands chances

I just want to say I dont support England before I say anything else, sorry BUT i have a deep feeling they will get to the final. I support Italy but cant see them get into the querter finals for some reason.

Spain VS Swizerland, easily the best and most tense WC match so far....

Some great defending that from the Swiss. Ottmar Hitzfeld is a great manager.

I get spain in the sweepstakes.

and they **** up, typical.

Bofana Bofana!!

Predictions for the SA and Uruguay game? 2-1 to Uruguay for me.

The vuvuzelas are going to be torturous tonight, will have to mute it

The horns wernt bad in that game?


and it does make us look better. but holland have looked most solid.

Didnt play amazing but hard opponents in a denmark who beat portugal and sweden..

Those vuvuzela's didn't sound as bad. Maybe the bbc turned them down a bit.

I think Germany have looked the strongest, and Argentina played well within themselves.

I'm not saying they were bad, I'm saying theyre going to be bad during the SA game

The quality of the HD picture is amazing. I just got a new telly yesterday, and I have a freesat HD box.

And holland because really argentina had fairly easy opponents, and germanys opponents were crap.

They both looked good, but holland looked a bit dodgy but played the stronger team.

Yeah was just saying they seemed quiet tho, but yes they will be for south africa.

Deflection...not as good as first though

wow @ the spain result - I was napping, and Jen (tibb) texted me saying WOOO SWITZERLAND, lmao.

I almost want Uruguay to thrash S.Africa just so we never hear another vuvuzela.

tsk. sending off a South African. *waits for that referee to be shot dead*

Can u hear it? Silence.

Awww but they sing before their games