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Jack_ 19-01-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4062723)
The fact that sexual discrimination is seen as worse than religious discrimination is in itself discriminatory:rolleyes: It seems some people in this country are MORE equal than others.

Of course it's worse. Race, gender and sexuality are all things that cannot be chosen. Religion can.

Crimson Dynamo 19-01-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 4062745)
Of course it's worse. Race, gender and sexuality are all things that cannot be chosen. Religion can.

Wishful thinking

sexuality is unknown in terms of when it kicks in - it does not belong with race or gender I am afraid

Angus 19-01-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 4062745)
Of course it's worse. Race, gender and sexuality are all things that cannot be chosen. Religion can.

Many cultures indoctrinate (or should we say brainwash) their offspring from the day they are born - so it is NOT a matter of choice for very many people. Furthermore, the jury is STILL out on whether or not homosexuality is innate or a learned behaviour and until that little matter is empirically proven (which to date it has not been), one could argue that gay people have no particular right to preferential treatment over other minority groups.

cub 19-01-2011 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4062723)
The fact that sexual discrimination is seen as worse than religious discrimination is in itself discriminatory:rolleyes: It seems some people in this country are MORE equal than others.

There should not be any religious discrimination, I agree, as long as it doesn't affecting the rights of others. I am quite happy that the beliefs of others are upheld until it affect the law. The law must always be a priority and must be fair to all. If it is in a person's religion to ban gays, blacks, other religions, women and so on then that is at odds with the law.

cub 19-01-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4062746)
Wishful thinking

sexuality is unknown in terms of when it kicks in - it does not belong with race or gender I am afraid

I think you will find it does in the modern world.

Crimson Dynamo 19-01-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cub (Post 4062814)
I think you will find it does in the modern world.

unfortunately that makes no sense

Crimson Dynamo 19-01-2011 02:45 PM

http://www.christian.org.uk/news/vid...-court-ruling/

check the title of the you tube video from the page above (mouse over it)

oops

arista 20-01-2011 10:33 AM

They were just on ITV1

lgejonson 22-01-2011 02:10 PM

Homosexual Goldiggers
 
[QUOTE=LeatherTrumpet;4061113]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12214368

The owners of a hotel who refused to allow a gay couple a double room acted unlawfully, a judge has ruled.

Peter and Hazelmary Bull, of the Chymorvah Hotel, near Penzance, said as Christians they did not believe unmarried couples should share a room.

Martyn Hall and his civil partner Steven Preddy, from Bristol, said the incident in September 2008 was "direct discrimination" against them.

They were awarded £1,800 each in damages at Bristol County Court.

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A STING BY ACTIVISTS! WHY DO HOMOSEXUALS AND LESBIANS WANT MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE?

_Seth 22-01-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lgejonson (Post 4066703)
A STING BY ACTIVISTS! WHY DO HOMOSEXUALS AND LESBIANS WANT MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE?

We don't want more, we want EQUAL rights. That Christian couple would allow a straight married couple to stay there but not a gay married couple.

MrWong 22-01-2011 02:18 PM

[QUOTE=lgejonson;4066703]
Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4061113)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12214368

The owners of a hotel who refused to allow a gay couple a double room acted unlawfully, a judge has ruled.

Peter and Hazelmary Bull, of the Chymorvah Hotel, near Penzance, said as Christians they did not believe unmarried couples should share a room.

Martyn Hall and his civil partner Steven Preddy, from Bristol, said the incident in September 2008 was "direct discrimination" against them.

They were awarded £1,800 each in damages at Bristol County Court.

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A STING BY ACTIVISTS! WHY DO HOMOSEXUALS AND LESBIANS WANT MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE?

:conf:

More rights??? Don't be silly.

They want equal rights.

MrWong 22-01-2011 02:24 PM

The bigoted bint is still whinging in the press about the courts ruling.
Putting blame for her financial woes on this court case with no mention that her case was funded by the christian institutute. Her appeal will be funded by them aswell.

They've helped lots of other homophobes too.

Lovely bunch. :sleep:

lgejonson 22-01-2011 02:28 PM

Is it right to persecute a harmless old couple for staying true to their faith?
Is there anyone with the political courage to stand up to Stonewall?

MrWong 22-01-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lgejonson (Post 4066745)
Is it right to persecute a harmless old couple for staying true to their faith?
Is there anyone with the political courage to stand up to Stonewall?

Is it right to persecute a harmless couple for being gay?
Is there anyone with the political courage to stand up to the christian institute?

MrWong 22-01-2011 02:43 PM

It's funny how this bigoted couple follow what the bible says on homosexuality yet totally ignores what the bible says about working on the sabbath. :rolleyes:

dannyboy 22-01-2011 02:58 PM

Very true, wong. They're using their faith to try and to justify their bigotry towards gay people, they're full of contradictions. They're attempting to present themselves as this well meaning couple with firm christian beliefs trying to make an honest living. When in fact they're homophobic hypocrites who need to get a grip, and pull themselves out of the early 20th century!

arista 22-01-2011 03:00 PM

The Christian hotelier found guilty of gay bias looks set to lose her home and asks: So who's really being persecuted?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...#ixzz1BmRZp8Ti

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...18_233x423.jpg


Someone on the comments
tells her to move to Iran.

arista 22-01-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lgejonson (Post 4066745)
Is it right to persecute a harmless old couple for staying true to their faith?
Is there anyone with the political courage to stand up to Stonewall?



They should have let the gay couple stay.

this is 2011.

MrWong 22-01-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dannyboy (Post 4066768)
Very true, wong. They're using their faith to try and to justify their bigotry towards gay people, they're full of contradictions. They're attempting to present themselves as this well meaning couple with firm christian beliefs trying to make an honest living. When in fact they're homophobic hypocrites who need to get a grip, and pull themselves out of the early 20th century!

Yep and now they are trying to garner sympathy by blaming this court ruling on their financial woes. Whilst keeping it on the down low that all their court costs were payed for by the christian institute - a vile organization imo.

cub 22-01-2011 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=lgejonson;4066703]
Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4061113)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12214368

The owners of a hotel who refused to allow a gay couple a double room acted unlawfully, a judge has ruled.

Peter and Hazelmary Bull, of the Chymorvah Hotel, near Penzance, said as Christians they did not believe unmarried couples should share a room.

Martyn Hall and his civil partner Steven Preddy, from Bristol, said the incident in September 2008 was "direct discrimination" against them.

They were awarded £1,800 each in damages at Bristol County Court.

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A STING BY ACTIVISTS! WHY DO HOMOSEXUALS AND LESBIANS WANT MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE?

Why is equal rights seen as 'more rights'?

dannyboy 22-01-2011 03:25 PM

Yes, it's all very manipulative.

I don't see how they can convincingly claim to only book out rooms to heterosexual married couples. If myself and a female friend booked a double room (cos all the twin rooms were taken, for example), then there's no way would they tell us we can't because we're not married. It's absolute rubbish!

... Unless they have refused double rooms to all unmarried couples, regardless of their sexuality and gender (aye right!). Though that might explain why their business is doing so badly...! Lol.

Shaun 22-01-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lgejonson (Post 4066745)
Is it right to persecute a harmless old couple for staying true to their faith?

In short, yes. And they're hardly harmless if they're discriminating.

Quote:

Is there anyone with the political courage to stand up to Stonewall?
please stop substituting 'bigotry' with terms like political courage, you sound like Nick Griffin.

dannyboy 22-01-2011 03:51 PM

I was getting quite concerned reading that article, and even more concerned by the comments and whether the comments got a thumbs up or down. The general consensus on that article was poor B&B owners, evil spoilt pair of sinners.

Then I saw 'dailymail.co.uk and became far less surprised.

MrWong 22-01-2011 04:12 PM

I replied to that article ages ago but my comment hasn't been accepted (yet?) basically asking why the couple are trying to shift blame onto the gay couple for their financial woes when the christian institute covered all of their court costs. I then pasted a list of other homophobes that this institute has defended.

If my comment is accepted i expect to get hundreds of red thumbs down. :D

dannyboy 22-01-2011 04:49 PM

Well, I went to the 'worst rated' comment and, surprise suprise, it summed up exactly what I thought of the situation. Lolness.


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