I know the feeling :thumbs:

I just saw a clip of Aaron in the diary room on OK TV. He's in a bad way. Even though I believe he brought it all on himself, I am beginning to feel sorry for him. It's hard to see someone genuinely hurting that bad.

Yep!

I too feel sorry for him last night on Bbots he looked like a broken man, and that suggests something has gone wrong in BB this year.

If it be a particularly scheming Hm peeing off BB such that they sought revenge i can only guess. But yep its too far.

this is one of the first times I wholeheartedly agree with you. I'm not saying that as an Aaron fan - I'm saying that as a fan of BB - and if any housemate was being targeted in the way Aaron is being - with BB manipulating much to ensure he feels like that: the fact that he himself said in the diary room, "it's obvious BB don't want me to be here".... now that's a comment that many of us on this very forum have said - even non Aaron fans.

I've just watched a clip of Jay speaking with Aaron and considering I really dislike Jay - again, I have to say, Jay came across incredibly sincere and I hope Aaron listened to what Jay said.

The fact that Jem said she would stay in the house if aaron wasn't there - who the hell does she think she is? As for Faye: sorry, but she's loosing all credibility - not that I held her in high esteem.

If she give a damn about Aaron - truly - she'd click on that her own life, and Aaron's, has been a bloody miserable one since Jem walked in - and she's be telling Jem to sod right off and that they'd deal with their own sisterly issues when they both got out of the house.

No wonder Aaron looks completely brow beaten - and he really has done nothing to deserve this crap he is getting.

Because he doesn't react well to childishness

or.... Vulgarity, bad manners, or drunken females making a show of themselves. Can't say I blame him.

I've read this thread and everything I've read has added to my personal conclusion that Aaron is an undiagnosed person with Asperger's Syndrome. They often come over as odd, but only because thy don't display the same reaction to things as ordinary people do.

He's not responding to social cues as people would expect. Watch his eye contact, he does less eye contact when he's under stress or in confrontation and to cap it all, the conversation that first got me thinking about it was when he was telling Harry about his obsession with Lego; how he gets excited when a new Lego set comes out and has a whole room of made up Lego models.

His reaction to the burp is classic undiagnosed Asperger's behaviour. If he had been diagnosed, the chances are he would have learnt that an ordinary person wouldn't have reacted in that way, but as it is, it wouldn't occur to him to modify his reaction. He's probably just as confused at Fayes inability to understand his reaction as everyone else is about his apparent over reaction.

I do hope he stays in because I'm going to be watching him in a different light now.

As I've mentioned quite a few times, I have never really been a fan of Aaron's.
I find his moodiness and sulks unbearably annoying.
I do think that he has played a game by trying to make himself look like some sort of victim, not a bullying victim, but a "victim" in the sense that he whinged so much about how "dreadful" and "horrific" some of the other housemates are, and how he was just a poor, innocent, "nice" guy who had to put up with living with them all.
I think this was a game and a bit of an act, because I think he played just as big a part in trying to wind up Jay and Anton, but then as soon as they reacted, he would use it as some sort of false proof of what horrible people they were, and went to moan about it in the diary room, whilst acting like a completely innocent party in it all.
At first he had no interest in making peace with Jay, or trying to get along better - as was Jay's suggestion, until he heard all the cheers that Jay got the first week he was up. He suddenly started speaking properly again with Jay after that. I know he did nominate him again after that, but he was much nicer about him, and said that he was getting on better with him etc.
They've had their rivalries for sure, but Jay also seems to be trying his best to comfort Aaron after this nominations twist, so is clearly not the horrible human being that Aaron tried to make him out to be.

Regarding Faye and Aaron, I never really thought too much about whether it was a fake or real relationship. I just found them very annoying with all their bickering, and found both of their moody strops and sulks headwrecking to watch.
When I first heard of this twist I thought it was going to be absolutely awesome. I still think it was a really cool twist idea in theory, but the way it panned out just doesn't seem right to me.
It was unfair that two of the closest people to Jem got to vote, her mum and her boyfriend. It would have been fairer if it had just been one of them, but because it was practically two people connected to the person who likes him least, it was basically like Jem got to have 2 votes and give Aaron 2 nominations instead of 1.
I know that anyone they got for Faye would probably also be linked to Jem, that is one problem with having family in there together I guess. It just might have been fairer if they got one of Faye's mates to nominate instead of her Mum, who was going to side with Jem.

For the first time in the entire series I actually felt really, really, sorry for Aaron. His face and reaction to what was being said seemed like genuine disbelief to me. His fear both in the diary room where he felt like his reputation was in tatters for being falsely accused of leading on or using a young girl like Faye, his hands shaking in the garden. His very pained expression when he went to talk to Faye in the bathroom, and he just didn't know what to say to fix things. He just seemed completely genuinely crushed and heartbroken about the whole thing, and very very fearful that he is being portrayed as horrible to Faye on the outside.

So yes I think he definitely a gameplayer in alot of ways, but after watching all of his reactions to this twist, I think they were genuine shock, and that it was very unfair for him to be targeted so much by such accusations over Faye.
He is unbearable and completely ridiculous at times, such as sulking over the burping, and frosted flakes fight etc. I would dump someone like him in a heartbeat. However despite these things, I think he does hold some sort of affection for Faye, and think that the harsh accusations about his treatment of Faye are unfounded.

I actually think this could possibly work in Aaron's favor vote wise. As someone who normally can't stand him (apart from when he is being witty), I actually really felt for him tonight, and softened towards him slightly. Maybe some other people who are not Aaron fans will feel some sympathy for him too. (I know he has a huge fanbase anyways already so will probably be safe regardless)

I feel the same, my feelings towards him have changed recently

Relatives voting tactically?
 

Does anyone else wonder whether the relatives have voted for Aaron, not for the reasons they gave, but because he is so popular? In that targeting him would make their own relatives/friends have a better chance of winning? Aaron now thinks he is unpopular outside when the reverse is true. It would be a shame if he was forced out because of this twist.

1. Kissing Maisy and Tom after saying he liked her.
2. Falling out over a burp
3. Making rude comments to her like when she entered he thought "ok."

That is more than enough.

1. iirc he kissed Tom -as a dare in a game :rolleyes: - before he had that date with Faye and told her he liked her. And yeah, he said he fancied Faye after she asked him straight out and more or less gave him no option but to say yeah he did (and why wouldn't he fancy her anyway? she's a beautiful girl, what man wouldn't fancy her or Maisy or Louise???) anyway, when he said that yeah he did fancy her, did she say, I fancy you too? No she did not. Which is a bit mean I would think after basically making him say it but then not return the compliment. Infact she came out after the date and told people that she didn't fancy him. So, tbh it looked very much like she was messing him around. He was a free agent, Faye invited Maisy into the bed with her and Aaron, then left and told Aaron to spoon Maisy. Mixed messages? I think so.

2. I agree, the burp incident was silly and Aaron was OTT. Just like when faye nominated him 3 times, got drunk draped herself over Anton, asked him if he had a semi and tried to kiss him. Tit for tat.

3. Rude comments? hardly. How about calling him a geek, saying he was a closet gay? I could go on and could list far ruder things she's said about him then "Ok".

1. He tried it on with Rebeckah in the first week. (Not shown) Reported by Rebeckah in BOTS, before you say it yes I would rather believe Rebeckah.
2. He spent a week trailing Louise, before he realised that she did not fancy him, saying "she could not understand why all the girls were after him". He still has that glint in his eye whenever he talks to Louise, e.g Burpgate. (He still fancies her, more than Faye)
3. He snogged Tom, wonder what demographic he was appealing to there.....hmmmm
4. He then snogged Maisy, as his next choice for his fake love interest, until, she started to sit on his knee and trail him, and he realised that she was too childish.
5. He then settled for 4th choice, poor Faye, who he knew fancied him all along.
6. Faye has been putty in his hands to give him the attention he wanted. e.g Burpgate, after you have had your tongue down someone's throat, why would a burp near you from her bother you.
7. It just gave him the perfect opportunity to deliver another one of his pompous speeches in the diary room, or play to the camera's.
8. His choice of phrases if you listen, makes it clear he is trying to manipulate people. e.g Jem, getting more votes than Jay...."That really threw me" (oh really).
9. He admitted it to Jem, that he works hard at manipulating people, changing Louise's vote (Fell for he fake flattery from Jem, thats when she sussed him out).
10. Following th initial nominations, did he go over to Faye to try and re-assure her about their relationship, NO, he went to twine to big brother about they did not want him to win, say this wasnt supposed to happen.
11. Now that they are nearing the run in and the sister is out of the way, he has decided to ditch Faye, without so much as a text, deliver another one of his pompous speeches, laced with rhetorical questions for the easily led, trying to switch he focus on Faye for wanting a fancy car, when his own interest is winning the 100K.

etc etc etc.....

Is this evidence, to remove this de-luxe rose tinted specs......I thought so.....


etc etc etc....

The evidence that he has been playing Faye...

1. He tried it on with Rebeckah in the first week. (Not shown) Reported by Rebeckah in BOTS, before you say it yes I would rather believe Rebeckah.
2. He spent a week trailing Louise, before he realised that she did not fancy him, saying "she could not understand why all the girls were after him". He still has that glint in his eye whenever he talks to Louise, e.g Burpgate. (He still fancies her, more than Faye)
3. He snogged Tom, wonder what demographic he was appealing to there.....hmmmm
4. He then snogged Maisy, as his next choice for his fake love interest, until, she started to sit on his knee and trail him, and he realised that she was too childish.
5. He then settled for 4th choice, poor Faye, who he knew fancied him all along.
6. Faye has been putty in his hands to give him the attention he wanted. e.g Burpgate, after you have had your tongue down someone's throat, why would a burp near you from her bother you.
7. It just gave him the perfect opportunity to deliver another one of his pompous speeches in the diary room, or play to the camera's.
8. His choice of phrases if you listen, makes it clear he is trying to manipulate people. e.g Jem, getting more votes than Jay...."That really threw me" (oh really).
9. He admitted it to Jem, that he works hard at manipulating people, changing Louise's vote (Fell for he fake flattery from Jem, thats when she sussed him out).
10. Following the initial nominations, did he go over to Faye to try and re-assure her about their relationship, NO, he went to twine to big brother about how they did not want him to win, saying this wasnt supposed to happen.
11. Now that they are nearing the run in and the sister is out of the way, he has decided to ditch Faye, without so much as a text, deliver another one of his pompous speeches, laced with rhetorical questions for the easily led, trying to switch the focus on Faye for wanting a fancy car, when his own interest is winning the 100K.

etc etc etc.....

Is this enough evidence, to remove the de-luxe rose tinted Aaron specs......I thought so.....

:worship:

So basically, we are back to kiss-gate, burp-gate and the fact that he changed other peoples nominations in a week where they were allowed to do this...in the hope of giving faye a better chance of staying?

What a monster :eek:

Aaron fans can no longer complain that the argument has not been made, If they choose to ignore it that's different

HE WAS SINGLE WHEN HE SNOGGED MAISY AND TOM. why do people forget this.

Plus Faye made it clear that he wasn;t fanciable in the first week and on the date she managed to get a confession that he fancied her, yet she spent the next few days mocking him, telling him he should come out.

Basically the Anti-Aaron brigade are re-writting facts and claiming now that Aaron cheated on Faye with Maisy and Tom. You can't really make it up.

As for Aaron kissing Tom. Jay kissed Tom, too. But hey, facts and anti-Aaron brigade don't necessarily live in the same postcode!

Yeah, except the majority of that post is BS...but ok

lots of people agree with it though, I don't think it's fair to dismiss it as BS personally

Yeah, that tends to happen, people looking for a reason to dislike someone will twist every little thing to make every situation seem worse than it is. Doesnt mean its true ;)

doesn't stop the snowballing rolling and getting bigger either

The only way Arron has mess with Fayes head is the fact that he wouldn't do as she asked, like not shaving his beard off or she wouldn't speak to him for 3 days, Arron should do just to have a bit of piece from her nagging,EXAMPLE.:spin:

I thought you knew that this is BB it's a GAME even though at times things can get out of hand, like the food situation all over the floor then moan because of hunger thats life, Arron wasn't that petty or childish BB should have stopped it.
And as far as the poison drawfs are concerned hope Faye joins her sister friday.

If you read point 5, I know he was on the prowl for the fake love interest until he finally settled for Faye.

Also you have to be blind not to see, Jay's kack handed attempts to copy from the maestro, in kissing Tom. And what was all that attempted ham acting up to the camera's all about, he left Louise totally befuddled....There is really no point trying to sway the Aaron minnions because they are the shows main audience, and C5 know it......:dance: