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Jesus. 06-03-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5001350)
Exactly, I can't see why that is even being mentioned here tbh, if people don't agree that it's alright for her to do it because some rich people do, why even bring it into the discussion?

It's not so much that one excuses the other, it's just that the issue with the rich costs the country/government far more money than benefit cheats, but there are no national campaigns demonising the rich.

People are generally unaware of the problem that rich people avoiding tax/employing loopholes causes, but ask anyone about benefit cheats, and people lose their ****. Poor people inform on their neighbours, and hot lines are set up to encourage this practice.

I think this woman has acted appallingly, and she will be prosecuted. The poor are having the very things they rely on taken away from them to pay for a rich mans caused recession, and politicians are talking about shared sacrifice.

Highlighting the lack of justice, does not absolve a this woman of a theft of government funds, but everyone in the country is against this woman, whilst very few of us are even aware that there is another side to this.

Niamh. 06-03-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5001373)
Im confused, why bring what?

The bit I had bolded in the post that I quoted.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 07:37 PM

Ah i see, why not bring it? its relevant...i made it relevant.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001379)
It's not so much that one excuses the other, it's just that the issue with the rich costs the country/government far more money than benefit cheats, but there are no national campaigns demonising the rich.

People are generally unaware of the problem that rich people avoiding tax/employing loopholes causes, but ask anyone about benefit cheats, and people lose their ****. Poor people inform on their neighbours, and hot lines are set up to encourage this practice.

I think this woman has acted appallingly, and she will be prosecuted. The poor are having the very things they rely on taken away from them to pay for a rich mans caused recession, and politicians are talking about shared sacrifice.

Highlighting the lack of justice, does not absolve a this woman of a theft of government funds, but everyone in the country is against this woman, whilst very few of us are even aware that there is another side to this.

Wot he sed.

Niamh. 06-03-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001379)
It's not so much that one excuses the other, it's just that the issue with the rich costs the country/government far more money than benefit cheats, but there are no national campaigns demonising the rich.

People are generally unaware of the problem that rich people avoiding tax/employing loopholes causes, but ask anyone about benefit cheats, and people lose their ****. Poor people inform on their neighbours, and hot lines are set up to encourage this practice.

I think this woman has acted appallingly, and she will be prosecuted. The poor are having the very things they rely on taken away from them to pay for a rich mans caused recession, and politicians are talking about shared sacrifice.

Highlighting the lack of justice, does not absolve a this woman of a theft of government funds, but everyone in the country is against this woman, whilst very few of us are even aware that there is another side to this.

Well, I can't comment on how much it's discussed over there, but here people are far more outraged and angry at our government and their expenses and our bankers and us having to be bailed out because of them, then benefit cheats.

Jesus. 06-03-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5001401)
Well, I can't comment on how much it's discussed over there, but here people are far more outraged and angry at our government and their expenses and our bankers and us having to be bailed out because of them, then benefit cheats.

We have good ol' Rupert Murdochs press over here, constantly forcing "dole scroungers/benefit cheats/single mums/muslims" down our throats.

The bailouts were completely necessary at the time that they happened, but I bet you've never seen one item on the news/in a newspaper about the money that rich people cost, by avoiding paying what they are legally obliged to pay.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5001401)
Well, I can't comment on how much it's discussed over there, but here people are far more outraged and angry at our government and their expenses and our bankers and us having to be bailed out because of them, then benefit cheats.

Haha, you would think so here too right?...nope theres always a scapegoat. Look for the spin, google 'a good day to bury bad news' you will get what i mean.

Niamh. 06-03-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001418)
We have good ol' Rupert Murdochs press over here, constantly forcing "dole scroungers/benefit cheats/single mums/muslims" down our throats.

The bailouts were completely necessary at the time that they happened, but I bet you've never seen one item on the news/in a newspaper about the money that rich people cost, by avoiding paying what they are legally obliged to pay.

I understand your points and I agree with them as well, I just don't think it excuses people like that women in the news story. I dislike anyone who makes my tax bill higher, I don't discriminate :joker:

Jesus. 06-03-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5001433)
I understand your points and I agree with them as well, I just don't think it excuses people like that women in the news story. I dislike anyone who makes my tax bill higher, I don't discriminate :joker:

I agree, but the link from this woman to your taxes being increased, is more than a little tenuous.

Niamh. 06-03-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001440)
I agree, but the link from this woman to your taxes being increased, is more than a little tenuous.

Well, it's non existent really as she's British :laugh: but seriously, I hear what you're saying but it's more than just that, it's annoying as well, when I have to work for everything I have,I can't just stay home and look after my kids like she does, and I'm pretty much paying her to do it.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 08:07 PM

And lets never mention multinationals or corporate tax either.

thesheriff443 06-03-2012 10:06 PM

a good man goes no where in politics!

waterhog 06-03-2012 11:32 PM

this is a great story and well done sun - what i am so sad with was - to find out i was one of the fathers lol

Kizzy 07-03-2012 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by madJOE (Post 5001993)
this is a great story and well done sun - what i am so sad with was - to find out i was one of the fathers lol

Haha hey joe 1000 crazy mad posts! keep up the good work! :)

waterhog 07-03-2012 12:47 PM

thanks kizzy - never new that untill you pointed it out to me - thank you miss - i am just behind you - check your review mirror and make sure i dont over take lol


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