ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums

ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums (https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/index.php)
-   Serious Debates & News (https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=61)
-   -   Karen Matthews due to be released (https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198586)

Marc 13-04-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5077341)

Still got an ugly mug on her.

Jords 13-04-2012 04:15 PM

Sick bitch :bored:

Marc 13-04-2012 04:18 PM

Lets all go find her and brutally beat her to death :amazed:

Marc 13-04-2012 04:18 PM

LOL jk.. or something along those lines :idc:

Mrluvaluva 13-04-2012 04:28 PM

I'd be sh.itting my pants if I were her.

Me. I Am Salman 13-04-2012 04:38 PM

"I want a big mac" LOL.

Me. I Am Salman 13-04-2012 04:43 PM

Saw this comment below the article

Quote:

I think the reaction to her is over the top but I am in no way sympathetic towards her. She did a terrible thing which she was convicted for and served her time. I think the SUN are still bitter at being taken in by her. Ive read stories on serial killers with less hatred and disgust.
Agree with this 100%

Jordan. 13-04-2012 04:43 PM

I don't get why anyone would want to find her and beat her up :conf2: Yeah she was a complete bastard for what she did, but there's far worse people roaming the streets. Murderers, Paedophiles etc..

joeysteele 13-04-2012 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 5077799)
I don't get why anyone would want to find her and beat her up :conf2: Yeah she was a complete bastard for what she did, but there's far worse people roaming the streets. Murderers, Paedophiles etc..

I read what you said with interest Jordan and can see your point in some ways. I am not really in favour of vigilante action.

My own view is though,she has not served enough time for what she did, she knew her child was alive and where she was, she allowed her to be drugged and be held at an address away from her own home.
She then had an orchestrated farce played out with her friends, neighbours, police and media all involved in appeals and searches for her.

To have done less than 4 years,incuding remand time, of an 8 year sentence is simply wrong in my view and people who have children and hate children being harmed in any way will I am sure naturally feel massive anger and hatred to this woman.

She set out to pervert the cause of justice, lie after lie to the police when she knew all the time where Shannon was,as I said before it is something to be glad about that no further harm came to Shannon other than the kidnap and assault of her by giving her drugs to keep her from being too active.

She is as a Mother in my view, only a little better than the paedos and murderers you mention because, had panic set in and control of this lost ,little Shannon could have been a statistic in the worst possible scenarios of child crime.
Children cannot fight against adults,adults who harm children have to be more severely punished for their actions.
Parents who bring harm to their children are even lower,they are the very people a child should be able to feel totally 100% safe with not end up suffering the way Shannon did, with the full approval too that this monster of a Mother allowed her to.

People will be rightly infuriated at the weak sentence, the joke of the time served and also the fact she still doesn't show any real remorse whatsoever for her actions in this horrible crime.

I fear she will need to watch her back for near the rest of her life, I would hate to be her if one day someone or a group do come across her who know her actions and part in this crime against a child who was her own daughter too.

Jords 13-04-2012 05:28 PM

Yeah I say give her no more attention tbh

Mystic Mock 13-04-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5077456)
Ah of course...trust The Sun to be the ones to reveal her new identity. Same old, same old.

I think I will love The Sun forever after doing this.

joeysteele 13-04-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 5077885)
I think I will love The Sun forever after doing this.

For me, it's one of the very 'few' and I mean few things The Sun has got right jf.

Mystic Mock 13-04-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 5077799)
I don't get why anyone would want to find her and beat her up :conf2: Yeah she was a complete bastard for what she did, but there's far worse people roaming the streets. Murderers, Paedophiles etc..

She kidknapped her own Daughter and probably would have killed her if she wasn't caught in time.

Jack_ 13-04-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 5077885)
I think I will love The Sun forever after doing this.

:crazy:

Says more about you than anyone else.

Mystic Mock 13-04-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5077893)
:crazy:

Says more about you than anyone else.

Why? because I don't want psychos that haven't served there full sentence to live? well yeah im bad, more bad than this bitch that your defending.:joker:

Jack_ 13-04-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 5077899)
Why? because I don't want psychos that haven't served there full sentence to live? well yeah im bad, more bad than this bitch that your defending.:joker:

No, because your comments are reactionary and you take no consideration as to any potential side effects of vigilante action and what revealing her 'new identity' could lead to. It's all very well and good to sit there screaming and shouting 'death to paedos! death to rapists! death to kids who steal sweets!', preaching some sort of barbaric witch hunt, but I'm afraid in the long run it doesn't solve a thing, not to mention you just lower yourself to their level and we as a society endorse the very thing we're trying to eradicate...which is idiotic if you ask me.

As for 'psychos'...that's too broad a term. You could say bullies are 'psychos', but shall we kill them? I don't condone bullying in the slightest and think it should be punishable...but death? Then how far do you go, do we sentence those who steal to death? Those who swear? At what point do you stop?

Capital punishment is an awful, false attempt at 'justice'.

Mystic Mock 13-04-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5077938)
No, because your comments are reactionary and you take no consideration as to any potential side effects of vigilante action and what revealing her 'new identity' could lead to. It's all very well and good to sit there screaming and shouting 'death to paedos! death to rapists! death to kids who steal sweets!', preaching some sort of barbaric witch hunt, but I'm afraid in the long run it doesn't solve a thing, not to mention you just lower yourself to their level and we as a society endorse the very thing we're trying to eradicate...which is idiotic if you ask me.

As for 'psychos'...that's too broad a term. You could say bullies are 'psychos', but shall we kill them? I don't condone bullying in the slightest and think it should be punishable...but death? Then how far do you go, do we sentence those who steal to death? Those who swear? At what point do you stop?

Capital punishment is an awful, false attempt at 'justice'.

Look I hate bullies, but are you honestly comparing them to criminals?:joker: murderers serve no purpose in society so why should they live just to kill more innocent people? and paedos just need to be locked up for life, along with rapists.

joeysteele 13-04-2012 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 5077891)
She kidknapped her own Daughter and probably would have killed her if she wasn't caught in time.

Exactly and also allowed her daughter to be drugged too jf, I am just sorry the law didn't come down more heavily on her.

She would have got at least 12 to 15 years in prison from me with no early release either.
Someone sometime has to start defending and protecting children who suffer at the hands of adults and cannot themselves fight back,Shannon will be likely scarred for life by this, knowing why she is not with her Mother, the fact it was her Mother that was major part of it will make it even worse for her to understand why.

People would not be so angry if sentences given out for assault and harm to children were more severe and far more lengthy ones.
People committing fraud or money crimes get longer in prison and have to serve more of it too than this rotten Mother got for the devastaion she allowed to be brought to her own child.
I don't say that from anger, I say it from simple and pure facts.

MTVN 13-04-2012 05:59 PM

Wouldn't be surprised if she turns up on CBB in the summer

Mystic Mock 13-04-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5077954)
Exactly and also allowed her daughter to be drugged too jf, I am just sorry the law didn't come down more heavily on her.

She would have got at least 12 to 15 years in prison from me with no early release either.
Someone sometime has to start defending and protecting children who suffer at the hands of adults and cannot themselves fight back,Shannon will be likely scarred for life by this, knowing why she is not with her Mother, the fact it was her Mother that was major part of it will make it even worse for her to understand why.

People would not be so angry if sentences given out for assault and harm to children were more severe and far more lengthy ones.
People committing fraud or money crimes get longer in prison and have to serve more of it too than this rotten Mother got for the devastaion she allowed to be brought to her own child.
I don't say that from anger, I say it from simple and pure facts.

I agree with you completely Joey but this is the country that let James Bulger's killers out on early release, the law disgusts me sometimes.

joeysteele 13-04-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5077956)
Wouldn't be surprised if she turns up on CBB in the summer

I wouldn't be surprised if she herself wouldn't mind being on it MTVN.

Mystic Mock 13-04-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5077956)
Wouldn't be surprised if she turns up on CBB in the summer

Yeah I can just imagine her saying im famous for kiddknapping my own Daughter and drugging her, I also mislead The Police on there investigation.

I swear I would stop watching BB if they allowed her on.

Mystic Mock 13-04-2012 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5077961)
I wouldn't be surprised if she herself wouldn't mind being on it MTVN.

Yeah she's trashy enough for Channel 5.

joeysteele 13-04-2012 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 5077959)
I agree with you completely Joey but this is the country that let James Bulger's killers out on early release, the law disgusts me sometimes.

The law is at fault in the main definately jf for its still poor sentencing on issues like this.

Not wanting to re-live that awful tragedy as to little Jamie, bless him,however it seems little has been learned since from his horrific case.

It is the law and sentencing structure that needs a massive overhaul on cases where children are harmed.
They cannot fight back at the time, that should warrant 10 years instantly,with no early release as a sentence for even harming them and that would be before the actual harm effect is added to the sentence then people would see justice being done and be less angry at these ridiculous early releases for such awful people.

Mystic Mock 13-04-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5077970)
The law is at fault in the main definately jf for its still poor sentencing on issues like this.

Not wanting to re-live that awful tragedy as to little Jamie, bless him,however it seems little has been learned since from his horrific case.

It is the law and sentencing structure that needs a massive overhaul on cases where children are harmed.
They cannot fight back at the time, that should warrant 10 years instantly,with no early release as a sentence for even harming them and that would be before the actual harm effect is added to the sentence then people would see justice being done and be less angry at these ridiculous early releases for such awful people.

You should be PM Joey, you would run the country much better than the last few have.

Another case that I still can't get over is Victoria Climbie, how the Aunt and her boyfriend didn't get into more trouble is beyond me, and Social Services should be ashamed of themselves, and the Doctor.


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:16 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.