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Bojangles 28-06-2012 11:56 PM

Gorgon,she puts Medusa to shame.

Indy 29-06-2012 12:16 AM

I gave her the benefit of the doubt when it came out of her mouth, became more skeptical through her attitude in the diary room, was 99% sure when she flinched if Adam tried to touch her, and by the time she smirked...it was racist. It was her code, and her idea that she was just so brilliant she could say it like that and only Scott would understand what she meant by it.

She "despiiiiiiiises" so many people in that house, but only Adam gets that special brand of revulsion that treats him as less than human. Even Chris didn't get that kind of treatment - her worst for him was rolling eyes. So now my next thought - how often do we ever see her interacting with Shiv one on one?

Raph 29-06-2012 12:22 AM

I still think the Conor incident was of far greater concern than this Caroline one but kudos to Big Brother for stepping up their game in regards to giving out official warnings to housemates.

Gaynor186 29-06-2012 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy (Post 5253532)
I gave her the benefit of the doubt when it came out of her mouth, became more skeptical through her attitude in the diary room, was 99% sure when she flinched if Adam tried to touch her, and by the time she smirked...it was racist. It was her code, and her idea that she was just so brilliant she could say it like that and only Scott would understand what she meant by it.

She "despiiiiiiiises" so many people in that house, but only Adam gets that special brand of revulsion that treats him as less than human. Even Chris didn't get that kind of treatment - her worst for him was rolling eyes. So now my next thought - how often do we ever see her interacting with Shiv one on one?

Pretty sure these are the first black people either she or Scott have come into close contact with......hence the defensive and 'uncomfortable' feeling they have around them.

jet 29-06-2012 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Yayita (Post 5253058)
I guess racism is higher up on the list of bigotry than barbaric sexual threats against women.

Absolutely. Conor threatened sexual violence against a woman and gets away with it, but Caroline gets a formal warning for a 'racist' remark. The thing is, there is no ambiguity in what Conor said, therefore there is no doubt involved, whereas it is debatable whether Caroline meant what she said as a racist remark.
I don't like either of them, but BB obviously doesn't give a damn about perceived violence and bullying of women, but anything slightly resembling racism is seen by them as much, much worse.
I abhor both, but isn't the 'it might have been racism' stance been taken too far by BB - given that Conor didn't get a formal warning for an outrage that was blatant and had no doubt attached to it as to his feelings?

MTVN 29-06-2012 12:47 AM

She sure is an evil little girl

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 29-06-2012 12:48 AM

i love her :lovedup:

her evil little smirk to the camera at the end of tonights show :love:

she reminds me of damien from the omen

Eosvox 29-06-2012 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 5252697)
I really dont think she meant it in a racist way.

Big, hairy and smelly... rather than... black.

I don't like her, but i agree..I don't think she meant it racially..What killed me what that in that same tirade she made a statement about his hair..With that things she has going on her head, she should be the last one to comment on hair..

BBUKAUSFAN 29-06-2012 02:18 AM

again all u nuts take it out of context it was in no way racist....

ElProximo 29-06-2012 02:21 AM

Brits have got to cool it with this stuff. You have to understand, there was this Shilpa story that went international. NOT because of the reason Brits think it was international news. It was used as a kind of shaming example of just how ridiculous, OTT-PC, and really pathetic the UK had become with micro-managing thinkspeak and this kind of thing.

Even Americans (where it turns out African animal nick-names for blacks actually is a real overly-sensitive issue) but even THEY are rolling their eyes and ridiculing the UK for its PC infatuations.

I would call Adam a 'Sasquatch'. Which is a kind of North American Ape (legendary). Because he looks like a big gigantic tall hairy slope-shouldered lumbering dude with big black hair. He does.
If he had long white hair we might call him a 'Yeti monster'.
He could also be compared to a big gorilla. People also thought George Bush Jr looked like a Chimp. People have compared Barack Obama's healthcare schemes as 'Witch doctor medicine'. Some boxer with dark skin called himself the 'Black Bomber'. Cuz he was very black in colour and like Joe Louis who was brown-skinned and called himself the Brown Bomber.
Everyone just calm the eff down already. And another thing. Stop wearing those palestinian scarves. I STILL see them. For crying out loud the UK is trying to host the Olympics so let's stop this now.

MatthewS 29-06-2012 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 5253645)
And another thing. Stop wearing those palestinian scarves.

:joker:

sarakss 29-06-2012 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 5252991)
When BB asked her what she meant by it she had no answer for it then when they asked if she could see how it would be perceived as offensive she again had no answer.

I'm not sure what to think tbh.

That's the reason why I think she knew exactly what she meant when she said it. If she had meant it in a non-racist way, she would not have a problem explaining herself.

I liked her initially, but lately she has been showing herself to be a nasty piece of work. It's funny how we let things pass, but she has been such a vicious person from the start - especially with her reaction to Victoria's eviction. Most people would just keep still - this little sociopath did not know how to act like a sensible person.

sarakss 29-06-2012 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott (Post 5253561)
i love her :lovedup:

her evil little smirk to the camera at the end of tonights show :love:

she reminds me of damien from the omen

She reminded me of the girl from the 3rd or 4th omen - the one who pushed the nanny out of the window.

The movie, The Bad Seed, also comes to mind - sociopath is the common theme here.

sarakss 29-06-2012 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 5253645)
Brits have got to cool it with this stuff. You have to understand, there was this Shilpa story that went international. NOT because of the reason Brits think it was international news. It was used as a kind of shaming example of just how ridiculous, OTT-PC, and really pathetic the UK had become with micro-managing thinkspeak and this kind of thing.

Even Americans (where it turns out African animal nick-names for blacks actually is a real overly-sensitive issue) but even THEY are rolling their eyes and ridiculing the UK for its PC infatuations.

I would call Adam a 'Sasquatch'. Which is a kind of North American Ape (legendary). Because he looks like a big gigantic tall hairy slope-shouldered lumbering dude with big black hair. He does.
If he had long white hair we might call him a 'Yeti monster'.
He could also be compared to a big gorilla. People also thought George Bush Jr looked like a Chimp. People have compared Barack Obama's healthcare schemes as 'Witch doctor medicine'. Some boxer with dark skin called himself the 'Black Bomber'. Cuz he was very black in colour and like Joe Louis who was brown-skinned and called himself the Brown Bomber.
Everyone just calm the eff down already. And another thing. Stop wearing those palestinian scarves. I STILL see them. For crying out loud the UK is trying to host the Olympics so let's stop this now.


I'm in America and can assure you that you can call a black person a disgusting Sasquatch, but that means nothing compared to calling a black person a monkey, gorilla, ape, or baboon. These words have weight because of their historical association. Don't act like they don't.

You can call Becky a dolphin or a shark, but you call her a whale and you know people are going to interpret it differently.

We don't live under a rock, so people need to choose their words wisely. If your boss is an ass to you, you don't tell him off because you know there are consequences. The same logic applies here.

wendywillow 29-06-2012 03:39 AM

caroline is kind of clueless so she might not get what she said, i agree the pc issue can go over the top but to call a black man a gorilla is hard to defend on any terms, bb did the right thing

Eosvox 29-06-2012 03:46 AM

She reminds me of the "BUT I want a Gobstopper Nowwww" girl from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory..The Gene Wilder one.. Spoiled to the bone and inconsiderant of others..

Jords 29-06-2012 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Eosvox (Post 5253717)
She reminds me of the "BUT I want a Gobstopper Nowwww" girl from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory..The Gene Wilder one.. Spoiled to the bone and inconsiderant of others..

:joker::joker:

Jords 29-06-2012 03:55 AM

http://www.trada.com/wp-content/uplo...eruca_salt.jpg

cfromhx02 29-06-2012 04:27 AM

F BIGOT !!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh but i'm allowed to say that yaa, daddy's got me a porsche

it's not ma eey fault that i'm better than the help

stop being afraid to tell the upper class what you think of them kick her off

vortex 29-06-2012 04:37 AM

That comment had a racist undertone and she knows damn well it does, she could have called him: pig, whale, donkey, elephant and that animal kingdom list goes on and on but of course out of all the possible animals she could have called him, she chose gorilla, the one that will have the most undertones given the fact that Adam is a black man.

cfromhx02 29-06-2012 05:04 AM

bump

karezza 29-06-2012 08:29 AM

Carole BB8 looks like a gorilla.

Callum 29-06-2012 09:02 AM

I can't stand Caroline but I don't think she meant it in a racist way.

Marc 29-06-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Callum (Post 5253914)
I can't stand Caroline but I don't think she meant it in a racist way.

ThiiiIIIiiiiiiiIiiiisss

karezza 29-06-2012 09:12 AM

Those who think Caroline is racist are racist themselves.


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