Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5304740)

You well know that if i put anyones name forward, you and others will feed off it. So i wont give you that pleasure. you might find it hard to defend conor, i dont. I guess my forgiving nature sets me aside of others. My old mum used to tell me that people that forgive and forget have been blessed, people that harbour a grudge are yet to find peace. These young kids have been thrown in there and been chosen because of their volotile nature or placid demeanor. Conor got the job as did Deana for 2 oposite and unequal reasons. They are there to provide entertainment and be gawked at by us the great British public who love to tear lumps out of eachother if our views differ.

In the past even the most hated HM,s have been accepted and revered by the general public once they come out so are they bad, rotten and psycotic, answer is no, they just find it hard to not fight or cry in the house.Once Conor is out he will revert back to being an uncouth youth and once Deana is out she will revert back to being a spoilt brat. Their lives will never be the same but I wish them all the best.

If you really want to know why I like conor, I will tell you. He is willing to roll his sleeves up and get mad, get funny, get dirty and get even. All these emotions provide entertainment. Why dont I like Deana, well I do but like a whinging child that needs to be chastised, she just whinges non stop. She never lets up with this endless need to be loved and forgiven or revered by all those that think she must be regarded as priveledged and beautiful. She is a contestant in a game show and needs to lighten up. SAhe feeds off sympathy and its pathetic. I want to see a good series with cotrovosy not a bunch of whingers crying and blubbering.

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5304665)

Vortex, firstly I am not a troll and I reckon Vanesa is upset to but unlike some of the posters on here, I am a man of forgiving nature. I know he was wrong but he said what he did in an emotional filled rant and I for one cant and wont believe he either meant it or would do such things in real ife. His girlfriend and family friends say the same so in the absence of real life evidence I put it down to a huge brain fart to get noticed. End of in my book, time to move on. Others have said and done far worse but are being left alone.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5304734)

I have come round to Deana as a housemate and quite like her as a housemate, she does nothing, she hates washing up, she doesn't cook, she won't iron or anything, that still likely annoys them.Although I now like her as a housemate, she is not a person I would like at all or trust.

Conor, knows full well,from his own observations and from others, that she with Lydia was plotting and scheming behind his back along with their plotting aginst Arron too. For no reason at that time whatsoever.
He is also still likely against her because she chose him as the only male housemate to put up for eviction after they had been in the house for around 1 hour only.

Had I been him,in the house, I would not have an ounce of trust to put in Deana, she still couldn't resist going to Luke A and starting on about him staying,another attempt to run him down, even when he was totally ignoring her.
Last week she was relieved the way the great British public saved her as she said, well they did the same to Conor this week, sadly Deana cannot find any graciousness at all as to his victory on friday so tries to begin the plotting again right away,it must be really frustrating for her not to be able to talk directly about nominations.
She is also concealing tha fact she also actually nominated Shievonne, the person she now claims she wanted to stay.Amazing double standards.

Deana is far from perfect, she is a backstabber and a liar much the same as most of them can be in there, she doesn't shout and swear that much, although that is creeping in a bit more now, but she is what is seen as a silent menace,(we have people like her at Uni and I keep well clear of them, they cause big trouble because they are so plausible the way they do it), she cleverly gets said what she wants to, whether its truth or lies and is convincing because she does in a reigned in and controlled way.she is still never -the-less doing it though.

Conor is also far from perfect, which his outburst so long ago in the series proved, however clearly the public don't hold that against him to any degree like the forums do.
He is not controlled like Deana he fires off on all cylinders, he has told Deana loads of times, they will never get on, he doesn't like her because he doesn't trust her.

He avoids her like the plague,she should do the same with him too.He is always going to rant at her, (she knows that full well too), that's how he deals with people he cannot trust and doesn't like,likely with men too.
She plots and schemes and then wonders what has she done wrong because she claims never to have spoken to him.
That says a lot too, if she has never really spoken to him, what basis long before his offensive outburst, did she then have to plot and scheme his downfall and set out to ruin his chances on the show.

These are 2 housemates that should be kept as separate from each other as is possible, putting them together for that punishment thing was ridiculous, they should have made him wash the laundry and her do the cooking for 2 days,since they are clearly not going to put housemates up for eviction automatically for talking about nominations.

In their own ways,they are both good housemates with most or all of the others, together a disaster,sadly that is the case sometimes with people.

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 5304773)

BiB - You are just parroting what Conor says.

There have been a number of clips where you see Deana in the background washing or drying dishes.

Are you saying the others didn't plot? That only Lydia and Deana plot?
I think you need to go back and re-watch the first 3 weeks.

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5304777)

Mr Wong, change your name to Mr Cherry picker or insert an R between the w and the o. It is getting really tedious to constantly read your posts which for the most part concern one or two words or sentences written by people that you blow up out of all porportion. I for one dont have a professional proof reader for my posts so occassionaly I say stuff that can be taken both ways.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5304796)

I have indeed watched them many times,of course others did too 'but' Deana and Lydia were 2 of the most and regular plotters and schemers from the moment they knew they could talk about nominations.Lydia and Deana were plotting Arron's and Conors downfall fron day 5 in the house.

Of course Deana will have to at times do some chores in the house, but she herself says she doesn't do things like washing,ironing and cooking, also however,it is not me but in fact the other housemates who have nominated her in the past that say she does virtually nothing around the house.

Not saying that will go against her, for instance, Anthony who won BB6, did virtually nothing around the house either, he won though.


I have watched all the series highlights many times.

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 5304797)

What's tedious is when someone puts points to you instead of answering the points you make the discussion about the poster. :sleep::sleep::sleep:

It's reminds me of high school debates.

Originally Posted by Soniamad (Post 5304521)

I'm a hetero guy so I never really understand women's taste in men. Thus, I have to ask the women on here - Is he actually good looking?

I mean maybe he is, but to me his arrogant sneer is immediately apparant. Surely he is one book that can absolutely, positively, be judged by his smug cover?

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5304665)

Vortex, firstly I am not a troll and I reckon Vanesa is upset to but unlike some of the posters on here, I am a man of forgiving nature. I know he was wrong but he said what he did in an emotional filled rant and I for one cant and wont believe he either meant it or would do such things in real ife. His girlfriend and family friends say the same so in the absence of real life evidence I put it down to a huge brain fart to get noticed. End of in my book, time to move on. Others have said and done far worse but are being left alone.

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5304812)

Sorry but high school wa a blurr to me BUT AT UNI, we all learned to ignore people that cherry picked others drafts becasue they generally couldnt come up with intelligent drafts of their own.

An argument is 2 peoples different points of views. A debate is intelligent and articulate conversation that breeds ideas. Cherry picking is a lazy way to wind up people. I prefer to argue or debate.

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5304812)

Sorry but high school wa a blurr to me BUT AT UNI, we all learned to ignore people that cherry picked others drafts becasue they generally couldnt come up with intelligent drafts of their own.

An argument is 2 peoples different points of views. A debate is intelligent and articulate conversation that breeds ideas. Cherry picking is a lazy way to wind up people. I prefer to argue or debate.

Originally Posted by Ultra Violet (Post 5304843)

I am looking forward to this ... when it starts ...

You seem to be proud of the fact that you don't proof your postings ... but if you did you would pick up on the obvious typos ... as a man who went to a UNI(versity) you would probably like to show the world that you came out as a literate person ... and it would be so much easier for us all to read ...

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5304854)

Its very difficult to debate anything with people that constantly cherry pick others posts, seems like its catching eh. If you feel the need to debate an issue, throw one out there and I will throw one back. Just to make it interesting, can we stick to something other than Conors ancient rant, it was so long ago my old grey cells cant remember it.

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5304854)

Its very difficult to debate anything with people that constantly cherry pick others posts, seems like its catching eh. If you feel the need to debate an issue, throw one out there and I will throw one back. Just to make it interesting, can we stick to something other than Conors ancient rant, it was so long ago my old grey cells cant remember it.

Originally Posted by Ultra Violet (Post 5304872)

Fraid not ... this thread is about Connor's charm ... and this is meant to be taken ironically ... I imagine ... (surely they cannot be serious ... ?)

So ... as most people have found his 'ancient rant' the most telling moment so far in terms of revealing his true self to the world it would be unfair to expect it to be excluded from the discussion ... (oh dear if you can't remember things from a few weeks ago maybe the Alzheimers really is setting in ... ?)

Not sure what you mean about this 'cherry picking' ... I am afraid that I simply follow my own path and argue my own ideas rather vigorously ... perhaps too vigorously for some ... ?

Originally Posted by Patricia4 (Post 5304937)

Connor did one thing wrong opened his mouth when he maybe should'nt of he does'nt like Deana and she dose'nt like him so I see no crime. I would rather live with Connor than her she a two faced girl and is a person that love's herself more than anything or anyone.

Originally Posted by Patricia4 (Post 5304937)

Connor did one thing wrong opened his mouth when he maybe should'nt of he does'nt like Deana and she dose'nt like him so I see no crime. I would rather live with Connor than her she a two faced girl and is a person that love's herself more than anything or anyone.

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5304959)

Patricia4 behave yourself, dont you know that conor is the devil reincarnated and you are not allowed to defend him. Better you say nice things about the lovely faultless and prestine Deana. :dance:

Originally Posted by Patricia4 (Post 5304937)

Connor did one thing wrong opened his mouth when he maybe should'nt of he does'nt like Deana and she dose'nt like him so I see no crime. I would rather live with Connor than her she a two faced girl and is a person that love's herself more than anything or anyone.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5304734)

I have come round to Deana as a housemate and quite like her as a housemate, she does nothing, she hates washing up, she doesn't cook, she won't iron or anything, that still likely annoys them.Although I now like her as a housemate, she is not a person I would like at all or trust.

Conor, knows full well,from his own observations and from others, that she with Lydia was plotting and scheming behind his back along with their plotting aginst Arron too. For no reason at that time whatsoever.
He is also still likely against her because she chose him as the only male housemate to put up for eviction after they had been in the house for around 1 hour only.

Had I been him,in the house, I would not have an ounce of trust to put in Deana, she still couldn't resist going to Luke A and starting on about him staying,another attempt to run him down, even when he was totally ignoring her.
Last week she was relieved the way the great British public saved her as she said, well they did the same to Conor this week, sadly Deana cannot find any graciousness at all as to his victory on friday so tries to begin the plotting again right away,it must be really frustrating for her not to be able to talk directly about nominations.
She is also concealing tha fact she also actually nominated Shievonne, the person she now claims she wanted to stay.Amazing double standards.

Deana is far from perfect, she is a backstabber and a liar much the same as most of them can be in there, she doesn't shout and swear that much, although that is creeping in a bit more now, but she is what is seen as a silent menace,(we have people like her at Uni and I keep well clear of them, they cause big trouble because they are so plausible the way they do it), she cleverly gets said what she wants to, whether its truth or lies and is convincing because she does in a reigned in and controlled way.she is still never -the-less doing it though.

Conor is also far from perfect, which his outburst so long ago in the series proved, however clearly the public don't hold that against him to any degree like the forums do.
He is not controlled like Deana he fires off on all cylinders, he has told Deana loads of times, they will never get on, he doesn't like her because he doesn't trust her.

He avoids her like the plague,she should do the same with him too.He is always going to rant at her, (she knows that full well too), that's how he deals with people he cannot trust and doesn't like,likely with men too.
She plots and schemes and then wonders what has she done wrong because she claims never to have spoken to him.
That says a lot too, if she has never really spoken to him, what basis long before his offensive outburst, did she then have to plot and scheme his downfall and set out to ruin his chances on the show.

These are 2 housemates that should be kept as separate from each other as is possible, putting them together for that punishment thing was ridiculous, they should have made him wash the laundry and her do the cooking for 2 days,since they are clearly not going to put housemates up for eviction automatically for talking about nominations.

In their own ways,they are both good housemates with most or all of the others, together a disaster,sadly that is the case sometimes with people.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 5302057)

This was ages ago. And Conor has apologized. Is this the best his haters have against him? :bored: