Nothing.
its selfish and impulsive, but i think no-one can say they haven't before

as the song goes,
good girls go to heaven bad girls go every where.

the question then is, what is bitching and what isnt?

Well what else would we be talking about:evilgrin::evilgrin:

I don't think i can answer that really its a tricky question

seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeex:joke r:

im not really criticizing this particular girl, thats how she choose to behave, i didnt judge her, i just decided not to pursue it. maybe she was drunk or doesnt know how to relate to people, or maybe im just irresistible?/? lol :joker::joker:. i choose not to name call people. i usually try and find some reason to their behaviour or some good in them. what really disturbs me is when people work in groups and just go with the crowd, especially if it involves bullying or corruption. i fffing detest bullies and especially group bullying. im not just talking violence, im talk corrupt organizations, or corrupt groups of burocrats, these are the people who do the damage in this world far more that a flirty girl in a bar.

ive thought about that question for a while and im still lost.
you sort of know by instinct when something is petty bitching, or when it is real and important. then afterwards you try and work out how your instincts came to this conclusion

Nothing worse than people who just follow the crowd, and are sheep to society. I hate people who don't stand up when someone is being bullied and just stand by because they think they cannot do anything. Truth is they can - just are cowards

I like muscles, but not too much! Martin is just perfect! :amazed::lovedup:

it all depends on what you want and your situation.
bad things happen to good people,it will never change.

believe me, in the years to come this is a lesson you will keep relearning and what really goes on will amaze you

the people you see who sing their own praises and keep telling you how caring they are, how honest they are and how much work they do, are usually the exact opposite

the other people, the real people, the silent ajority quiet pillars of society who really do all the work, you wont see, you wont hear from as theyre away from the crowd doing all the important work

the worst groups are often police, councillors, bosses in big firms, cut throat lawyers, nurses, the military and health boards....when you go after any of these groups with a legitimate complaint or suggestion you will be destroyed.
be very very wary of these people....they promise you the earth and they couldnt deliver pizza:wavey: mind u you probably knew all this

What's that?:devil:

that thing you do to get kids:joker:

You really do post fantastic points
And i enjoy reading your posts - keep it up :)

:joker: :joker: :joker:

I agree about all you said about women but we are talking about expressing sexuality, likes and dislikes.. women werent as open back in the days as they are now.

Wow, this post has legs LOL, it just keeps going...

About the bitching, women tend to be a bit evil when they want to be, much worse than men and way more calculating and vindictive when they want to be.. I can safely say I have never been outwardly bitchy to someone but I have participated in behind the back gossip with friends

I try not to bitch, because i personally know how it feels to have people backstabbing you behind the back and treating you like ****. But i really can't help it at times.. which i'm ashamed of

We all have a bitchy side Munchy, just let it shine when its absolutely necessary ;)

I hate bitches! I've always preferred make company and feel a lot more relaxed around men.
Thankfully however I do have a group of close, female, non-bitchy friends.

neither were men. have you seen england in the black and white days? stiff as a board....why distinguish between the 2 sexes here?

I can honestly say in the 18 years I spent in school and the 4 years in uni, I dont recall any of my male mates ever being bitchy....we just played , fished, drunk , chased girls, shared cds , movies, went on hols, chased more girls, went to the football, rugby, cricket etc etc I must have lived a sheltered life because ive never even come across this bitching until later in life....I look back now a few years and realise I didnt miss a thing and than God for a pretty idyllic childhood free from this negative nonsense.

A lot of women pretend to not like really good looking men because they are insecure in themselves. I don't think it's because women arn't attracted to good looking men though, it's just because they are too insecure to go after really good looking men. They prefer to be with guys that are less attractive because it makes them feel more in control and that they have more power because they are the more attractive one in the relationship.

No woman wants to be with a guy that gets more attention than them. Or have people whispering behind their backs why is HE with HER?

If you go with the rating system 1-10, most women would want a man that is rated lower than they are, so if a woman is a 7 she'd prefer to be with a man that is a 6, no woman that's a 7, wants to be with a guy that's a 8 or 9, because it would make her insecure.

I think men try to go for women that are higher on the scale than they are. If a guy is a 7, he'd be VERY happy to get with a woman that's an 8 or a 9.

That's what i've noticed at least. You don't often see women with a guy that's more attractive than they are, or higher on the scale. It's very common to see men with women that are more attractive though.

There may be some truth in this. Cant see women wanting to be with a man "prettier" than them. In Beatles heyday Linda McCartney got so much stick when she dated and subsequently married Sir Paul. She was deemed to "ugly" for him. When Michael INXS Hutchence hooked up with Paula Radcliffe people just thought "ewwww he can do way better".

When BB11 John James shunned Rachel W for Josie most people who liked him were shocked and a bit impressed. "If he likes Josie, then theres hope for me" they thought. Ahem. He was way out of her league loads of folk such me didnt believe he fancied an overweight plain Jane.