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Jesus. 03-12-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5666331)
try reading some of my other posts then. I didnt say you were radical militant either, youre precious ego is taking it way too personally. i was speaking of the general culture on this radical militant left wing site. I dont water it all down to pacify the left wing. I say what I believe. You shouldnt take offence.

If there was a post of the week, I would nominate this.

Radical militant left wing site? I'd probably put myself about the furthest left, or certainly close to it, but how do you explain people like Arista or Joeysteele etc, that are complete Tories?

Anyway, I'll be in the communism section of the site if you want to find me.

Dasvidaniya comrade.

Kizzy 03-12-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5666331)
try reading some of my other posts then. I didnt say you were radical militant either, youre precious ego is taking it way too personally. i was speaking of the general culture on this radical militant left wing site. I dont water it all down to pacify the left wing. I say what I believe. You shouldnt take offence.

You don't feel your guilty of taking things personally?
you are allowed to have your say, but everyone else has a radical militant left wing agenda?...
I'm not offended don't worry.

Redway 03-12-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5666335)
is there a reason why you continue to smear Christianity and Islam, yet appear to support Judaism?

The vast majority of Jews are lovely people and don't try and convert everyone. You wonder why most Christians and Muslims can't be more like the Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, who don't try and force religion on others.

MTVN 03-12-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie (Post 5667223)
The vast majority of Jews are lovely people and don't try and convert everyone. You wonder why most Christians and Muslims can't be more like the Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, who don't try and force religion on others.

That's not true at all, are you not familiar with the actions of Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel?

Judaism is no more free of fanatics and extremists than Christianity and Islam are

Redway 03-12-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer (Post 5667256)
That's not true at all, are you not familiar with the actions of Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel?

Judaism is no more free of fanatics and extremists than Christianity and Islam are

That may be true, but Jews don't try and convert us, do they? At least not as much as the other religions I stated.

Mystic Mock 03-12-2012 08:00 PM

Christians and Muslims are really bad for trying to force other people into there beliefs, they are the two religions aswell that have caused a load of trouble these past 10 to 15 years with terrorist acts aswell because they are so insane about there beliefs that if nobody fits the bill they would bomb them.

MTVN 03-12-2012 08:01 PM

Sure some Jews will try and convert people, the ultra-Orthodox ones like I mentioned are very strong in trying to force their beliefs onto others, obviously in this country there's a small Jewish population and a much larger Christian one so you're more likely to have a Christian accost you, it might be a different story if you lived in Israel

MTVN 03-12-2012 08:03 PM

Although I can say I've never had someone of any religion try and convert me, the overwhelming majority of religious people whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish etc. will respect your beliefs

Redway 03-12-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Virgin Mock (Post 5667286)
Christians and Muslims are really bad for trying to force other people into there beliefs, they are the two religions aswell that have caused a load of trouble these past 10 to 15 years with terrorist acts aswell because they are so insane about there beliefs that if nobody fits the bill they would bomb them.

I tend to agree but it's only a very small minority of Muslims who are actually terrorists. Putting aside your own personal thoughts on the religion, those extremists are the ones who use religion to somehow alleviate and justify their stupidity.

Mystic Mock 03-12-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer (Post 5667295)
Although I can say I've never had someone of any religion try and convert me, the overwhelming majority of religious people whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish etc. will respect your beliefs

I know that but it's the radicals that don't help these religions, I just have my own beliefs I don't really believe in any type of religion though as they all have stuff in them that make no sense to me, like Adam & Eve having two Sons and no Daughter, if that is true then are we all related to one another then? I would like to hope not as it's just wrong.

Redway 03-12-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer (Post 5667295)
Although I can say I've never had someone of any religion try and convert me, the overwhelming majority of religious people whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish etc. will respect your beliefs

I wish I was you lol. Walking around Toxteth there are always people handing you leaflets on coming to Church and the mosque lol.

Mystic Mock 03-12-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie (Post 5667302)
I tend to agree but it's only a very small minority of Muslims who are actually terrorists. Putting aside your own personal thoughts on the religion, those extremists are the ones who use religion to somehow alleviate and justify their stupidity.

I know, but I always find that the radicals are really high up in these religions so it doesn't make them look good.

Livia 03-12-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer (Post 5667293)
Sure some Jews will try and convert people, the ultra-Orthodox ones like I mentioned are very strong in trying to force their beliefs onto others, obviously in this country there's a small Jewish population and a much larger Christian one so you're more likely to have a Christian accost you, it might be a different story if you lived in Israel

Jews welcome converts, but do not recruit converts.

Of course, I can't speak for the nuttier sects.

Marsh. 03-12-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie (Post 5667223)
The vast majority of Jews are lovely people and don't try and convert everyone. You wonder why most Christians and Muslims can't be more like the Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, who don't try and force religion on others.

Ridiculous generalisation.

You can't speak for the "majority" of any religion or group of people.

It's like saying all Liverpudlians are thieves, unsubstantiated hyperbole. You get crackpots everywhere, religious or not.

Redway 03-12-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow (Post 5667356)
Ridiculous generalisation.

You can't speak for the "majority" of any religion or group of people.

It's like saying all Liverpudlians are thieves, unsubstantiated hyperbole. You get crackpots everywhere, religious or not.

I know but I'm on about the ones I've come across.

InOne 03-12-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie (Post 5667434)
I know but I'm on about the ones I've come across.

Do you live in the 'Little Israel' area of Liverpool?

Redway 03-12-2012 09:02 PM

No, I actually live in Anfield (not too far from the stadium) but I do have friends I visit down there. Used to live not too far from it though (the Dingle).

the truth 03-12-2012 09:43 PM

Its nonsense comparism. there are 2 billion Christians and only a few million Jews so gues swhat there will be more Christians who you bump into and maybe try to persuade you to their views. however Christians are nowhere near as hardline as muslims in general and Jews to a lesser extend. Though the Jewish approach in Israel is totally hard line and saldy doomed to failiure.

the truth 03-12-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow (Post 5667356)
Ridiculous generalisation.

You can't speak for the "majority" of any religion or group of people.

It's like saying all Liverpudlians are thieves, unsubstantiated hyperbole. You get crackpots everywhere, religious or not.

100% agree with that. I would add Christians do laugh at themselves and do take criticism better than other religions such as Islam. they did a show on bbc jerry springer the opera, portraying Christ as an alcoholoic incontinent and Joseph as a paedophile. yes people polutely complained by letter but the show went on. they did a show criticizing Mohammad on stage and the muslims burnt the place down. Jews do have great humour but again the hardliners are too quick to accuse some of anti-semitism, sometimes its too the detriment of healthy debate imho

Marsh. 03-12-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie (Post 5667434)
I know but I'm on about the ones I've come across.

Well I find it difficult to believe you've come across and spent enough time with people from all these different religious groups to come to the conclusion you did.

Either way, you should refrain from using phrases like "vast majority" when it's nowhere near the case.

Redway 03-12-2012 10:11 PM

Fair enough.

Kizzy 03-12-2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie (Post 5667302)
I tend to agree but it's only a very small minority of Muslims who are actually terrorists. Putting aside your own personal thoughts on the religion, those extremists are the ones who use religion to somehow alleviate and justify their stupidity.

Only a small amount of muslims are terrorists?....
Thats good to know... Is this state the bleeding obvious day? :)
Those who are indoctrinated into extremist muslim fundamentalism are in a sense groomed into hating the west.
It's not stupid to them then is it?
They see us as the enemy.

Marsh. 03-12-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas (Post 5667693)
Is this state the bleeding obvious day? :)

:laugh:

the truth 04-12-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas (Post 5667693)
Only a small amount of muslims are terrorists?....
Thats good to know... Is this state the bleeding obvious day? :)
Those who are indoctrinated into extremist muslim fundamentalism are in a sense groomed into hating the west.
It's not stupid to them then is it?
They see us as the enemy.

the rise in the radicals is purely the fault of corrupt war mongering politicians and the corrupt war wongering media moguls theyve empowered to spread the hate and promote and finance the wars. as you say its a small minority who are war mongers in all religions yet it is these radicals who seem to haev huge control and get most attention. theyre a dreadful example to younger people and a menace to all society....I say lets grab back religions for the silent moderate majority who are more inclined to preach love and peace.

Kizzy 04-12-2012 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5668086)
the rise in the radicals is purely the fault of corrupt war mongering politicians and the corrupt war wongering media moguls theyve empowered to spread the hate and promote and finance the wars. as you say its a small minority who are war mongers in all religions yet it is these radicals who seem to haev huge control and get most attention. theyre a dreadful example to younger people and a menace to all society....I say lets grab back religions for the silent moderate majority who are more inclined to preach love and peace.

When you fly planes into buildings it attracts a lot of attention though...


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