Originally Posted by King Moonracer (Post 5690853)

Well I suppose the problem is that the CofE are still technically the official Church in this country and we don't have complete separation of church and state, that makes the gay marriage question even more difficult because they are seen as conducting marriages on behalf of the state, and if they're against marrying same sex couples than it's problematic to legalise it

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5690787)

No one is suggesting you aren't entitled to your say, Irene. It's just rather amusing that by demanding Christians change their rules and not that all religions do, you make your argument look a little weak. I have never studied Islam but I think if one religion is made to allow gays to marry, then I think all religions should, including Islam. Or your are discriminating. Isn't that kind of clear to you?

Originally Posted by Marshmallow (Post 5690863)

That's the nail on the head Irene, Christianity THEMSELVES have changed down the centuries. They haven't been forced to change.

If they are forced to include something from an outside party against their will then it ceases being a religion and set of beliefs that they choose to be a part of/believe in.

Effectively, non-Christians forcing Christians to accept and believe something they don't. Not really a religion then.

Originally Posted by Scrooge (Post 5690869)

Think you're a bit paranoid Irene... You're not that important that mods would go around deleting your posts.

Originally Posted by Irene Pearson (Post 5690888)

Well Scrooge it was there and then it wasn't. What do you suggest.I'm new to this site.

Originally Posted by Irene Pearson (Post 5690885)

This came from within the church also Just as the inclusion of women in the priesthood. Wonder what the Pankhursts would make of that. These decisions have been made by males.

Originally Posted by Irene Pearson (Post 5690864)

Will you please tell me why my response to this post was deleted?:suspect:

Originally Posted by Irene Pearson (Post 5690796)

I'm sorry but your argument does not seem rational. Are you saying that all the worlds religions should have identical dogmas? I really do not understand what you mean. The disparities between different religions are many fold surely? For instance when I have attended our local synagogue the ladies were all seated separately to the gentlemen. This is not so in Christian churches. C of E accepts divorce, Catholics do not. Please try to discuss this without being aggressive because I am genuinely interested and found your sarcasm quite off putting.

Originally Posted by King Moonracer (Post 5690853)

Well I suppose the problem is that the CofE are still technically the official Church in this country and we don't have complete separation of church and state, that makes the gay marriage question even more difficult because they are seen as conducting marriages on behalf of the state, and if they're against marrying same sex couples than it's problematic to legalise it

Originally Posted by Scrooge (Post 5690892)

You already got told before though nothing was deleted.

Originally Posted by Marshmallow (Post 5690897)

:suspect: It wasn't.....

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas (Post 5690911)

She's right joe something was deleted from this thread.

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve (Post 5690859)

That's a good point too Matt

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve (Post 5690919)

It wasn't Irenes post though

Originally Posted by Irene Pearson (Post 5690925)

. Civil partnership is allowed by the state is this not the next logical progression.Christian churches were behind children being demonised as bastards when born out of wedlock. Why are gay couples children being discriminated against when the church still maintain that it is a sin to be illegitimate. The world evolves peoples conscious awareness expands . There are a lot of gays to whom religion is important , who contribute to their local communities through the church. This all so medieval.

Originally Posted by Irene Pearson (Post 5690928)

Sorry I am here, I did post it folks, I did see it and it was deleted. You little monkeys:xyxwave:

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve (Post 5690919)

It wasn't Irenes post though

Originally Posted by Irene Pearson (Post 5690928)

Sorry I am here, I did post it folks, I did see it and it was deleted. You little monkeys:xyxwave:

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas (Post 5690938)

Did she not quote the deleted one?
Ah, I don't know then :conf:

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve (Post 5690936)

We're just trying to mess with your head Irene http://i.imgur.com/6AOE1.gif












JK

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve (Post 5690930)

I do agree with you but thankfully today, what the church thinks about those kind of things doesn't equal what all of society thinks anymore