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CaudleHalbard 25-08-2013 09:44 PM

He said something which might have offended a viewer or viewers.

BB is ultra sensitive after the Shilpa Shetty farrago.

I would have been amazed if Ron had not got a warning.

sassysocks 25-08-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 6331608)
So your memory depends on where you're located.. give me a break.

Yes it does. He was in a stressful environment unfamiliar to him - a known cause and effect scenario. Memory can be very much affected by stress.

Verbal 25-08-2013 09:47 PM

You can't win on this site its just wearing. It should be called what-can-we-be-offended-about-today.com

reece(: 25-08-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 6331653)
Yes it does. He was in a stressful environment unfamiliar to him - a known cause and effect scenario. Memory can be very much affected by stress.

:crazy:
He wasn't stressed whatsoever, he's been calm and collected the whole time..
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4072/4...34432d1d_z.jpg

Ammi 25-08-2013 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6331643)
He said something which might have offended a viewer or viewers.

BB is ultra sensitive after the Shilpa Shetty farrago.

I would have been amazed if Ron had not got a warning.

..also because they gave Carol a warning yesterday for relating something but saying the word..(even though they said it themselves...that part was wrong..)...I actually still don't think Ron is a racist as such, I think he's more of an idiot but the joke was racist and the warning was completely justified ...

Ammi 25-08-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 6331653)
Yes it does. He was in a stressful environment unfamiliar to him - a known cause and effect scenario. Memory can be very much affected by stress.

...so is it that he's old..his environment..stress of the BB house..?...I actually don't think he is racist as such but the joke was and I he hasn't disputed it..?...he was very silly, people can still like him, it doesn't make him a bad person or take away from anything positive in him but he did make a racist joke and that can't be denied...

sassysocks 25-08-2013 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=reece(:;6331577]
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Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 6331566)
Age has NOTHING to do with it, just grasping at straws trying to think of liable excuses.

If you say so, but you clearly have no understanding of such things. Enjoy your little coccoon - one day you will understand.

reece(: 25-08-2013 09:52 PM

[QUOTE=sassysocks;6331686]
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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 6331577)

If you say so, but you clearly have no understanding of such things. Enjoy your little coccoon - one day you will understand.

Keep making silly excuses up:xyxwave:

erinp5 25-08-2013 09:52 PM

I found it a very strange and stupid response to someone covering their head .

Verbal 25-08-2013 09:53 PM

Whilst i'm at it I would like to point out how the pathetic attitude on here and how infractions are dealt out are ridiculous.

I've just been infracted for this post:

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"Yea cos thats the same isnt it? Honestly. People on here could cause an argument in an airing cupboard.

Getting offended on behalf of other people is offensive in itself. You're all just cheapening the real issues so that you can use big words and get all haughty over something on the internet. "

Now, if someone was to call someone a dirty n****r they would receive the same warning.

Do you not see the problem with this?

Ban me, I don't ****ing care anymore. This place is an absolute joke.

Ammi 25-08-2013 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=sassysocks;6331686]
Quote:

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 6331577)

If you say so, but you clearly have no understanding of such things. Enjoy your little coccoon - one day you will understand.

..tbh I think it's Ron that needs to understand otherwise he's obviously keeping on saying these stupid things which aren't helping him at all..

megamaja40 25-08-2013 09:55 PM

Jeez are they for real?..... Why not give charlotte a warning about the crude stuff she's saying?

Marsh. 25-08-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 6331653)
Yes it does. He was in a stressful environment unfamiliar to him - a known cause and effect scenario. Memory can be very much affected by stress.

:joker:

Yeah, I get stressed when I'm surrounded by people I don't know. So my mind works fine but strangely forgets that homophobia is offensive and I start hurling abuse at gay people. It's not my fault, I forgot.

reece(: 25-08-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by megamaja40 (Post 6331705)
Jeez are they for real?..... Why not give charlotte a warning about the crude stuff she's saying?

Because racism is a totally different, more serious subject to crudeness.

DanaC 25-08-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6331252)
Don't be silly...theres a huge difference between not being PC and being a racist.

Big Ron just isn't PC.

That's like the club comedians who warn the audience that the next joke is going to be 'a bit blue' and then tell a p*ki joke. Hilarious. All in good humour, bit naughty, not for the kiddies, but only having a laugh. No harm done. Nothing meant by it.

Except there is harm done. It all adds to the general anti-muslim noise in our society.

And maybe some 'ordinary muslims' might laugh and take no offence. Some others might laugh along and not show they're stung by it. Because it's all just banter right?

It's all banter 'til some ****wit petrol bombs a mosque, or spraypaints 'Al Qaeda' on a muslim family's front door. It's all banter til members of your community are getting stopped and searched on a semi-regular basis because they look a bit suspicious in this climate of Islamaphobia.

Does it make him a bad man? No. Does it warrant some kind of censure? Absolutely.

And I do wish people would stop wheeling out the age thing. He's quick thinking enough to come up with snappy comments and one liners. It is rather unfortunate that some of his humour seems founded in racial stereotypes.

sassysocks 25-08-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6331681)
...so is it that he's old..his environment..stress of the BB house..?...I actually don't think he is racist as such but the joke was and I he hasn't disputed it..?...he was very silly, people can still like him, it doesn't make him a bad person or take away from anything positive in him but he did make a racist joke and that can't be denied...

Both. He said himself - that once it was pointed out to him, he could see their point, but at the time it hadn't occurred to him.

And that was likely to be partly because of the attitudes he grew up with typical of his generation and partly to do with not being able to think quickly enough about every word he says before saying it.

Dionkan 25-08-2013 09:59 PM

Couldn't believe they gave him a warning for it.
Channel 5 are losing the plot.
And no in not a racist

sassysocks 25-08-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 6331711)
Because racism is a totally different, more serious subject to crudeness.

But the judgements made about her because of it is sexism which is just as serious as racism - but I don't see people get hot under the collar about that.

DanaC 25-08-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 6331759)
But the judgements made about her because of it is sexism which is just as serious as racism - but I don't see people get hot under the collar about that.

There are quite a few people getting 'hot under the collar' about that. Just not in this thread.

It is possible to be bothered about both at the same time.

Jamie. 25-08-2013 10:03 PM

I was gob smacked when he said it. It was racist no matter what way you look at it, it stereotyped Muslims (or religions that wear head scarves) to be a terrorist.

It was definitely justified.

reece(: 25-08-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 6331759)
But the judgements made about her because of it is sexism which is just as serious as racism - but I don't see people get hot under the collar about that.

I'm waiting for another age card.... Ron old and innocent, Charlotte young and guilty etc. You can never win around here.

MrWong 25-08-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megamaja40 (Post 6331705)
Jeez are they for real?..... Why not give charlotte a warning about the crude stuff she's saying?

You think being crude is the same as offensively stereotyping muslims?

Ammi 25-08-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 6331723)
Both. He said himself - that once it was pointed out to him, he could see their point, but at the time it hadn't occurred to him.

And that was likely to be partly because of the attitudes he grew up with typical of his generation and partly to do with not being able to think quickly enough about every word he says before saying it.

..I definitely believe he doesn't think about what he's saying but that doesn't mean that he didn't deserve a warning for it or that we should just say, awww, no worries, he's just a bit old, BB shouldn't give him a warning..there are lots of older people, most older people who don't make any reference to race.... he's not in that era now, he's perfectly able to function successfully in this era in every other way..except that he doesn't think enough about what he says...

Verbal 25-08-2013 10:05 PM

PC brigade, prepare to have a breakdown


MrWong 25-08-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6331718)
That's like the club comedians who warn the audience that the next joke is going to be 'a bit blue' and then tell a p*ki joke. Hilarious. All in good humour, bit naughty, not for the kiddies, but only having a laugh. No harm done. Nothing meant by it.

Except there is harm done. It all adds to the general anti-muslim noise in our society.

And maybe some 'ordinary muslims' might laugh and take no offence. Some others might laugh along and not show they're stung by it. Because it's all just banter right?

It's all banter 'til some ****wit petrol bombs a mosque, or spraypaints 'Al Qaeda' on a muslim family's front door. It's all banter til members of your community are getting stopped and searched on a semi-regular basis because they look a bit suspicious in this climate of Islamaphobia.

Does it make him a bad man? No. Does it warrant some kind of censure? Absolutely.

And I do wish people would stop wheeling out the age thing. He's quick thinking enough to come up with snappy comments and one liners. It is rather unfortunate that some of his humour seems founded in racial stereotypes.

Well said!


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