Where are the lies.... What did I lie about?
Where do I say I wanted more women in the boardroom? People should be judged on their merits man or woman.
Both genders are taught the same subjects in primary and have options ( they choose their own subjects) in the higher years... how can that be seen to benefit one gender?
I don't think it's really worth debating this anymore you have a very dim view of every aspect of women in the workplace, you don't have to be a feminist to see that.

Because the children accuse the male teachers of being paedophiles.

..I haven't got time atm to read through this thread so I'll try to do that later but I will agree with Claudia...in Primary Schools especially, there are very few male teachers...and the reason for that is because very few males want to teach at primary school level..that is a shame and it is improving a little..mainly because the age groups of a lot of primary schools is expanding to include older children with the 'two tier system' ..this means that there will be more male teachers in the lower Keystage groups ...but they still prefer not to teach the younger ones...Reception, years 1, 2 and even 3...this is a choice of male teachers themselves and their personal preference and the ones I have spoken to, which is quite a few, make this choice because they find it difficult to relate to very young children and very frustrating because of a more immature understanding....


...fortunately, we have many, many extremely experienced and willing female primary school teachers which compensate for this and the male teachers are also extremely effective and experienced with the age group they teach....

Agree with this 100%.

Where have any posters said that? Or is this just wild assumption like usual?

So who's better, Males or Females?

There's only one way to find out.


F-I-I-I-G-H-H-T

its everywhere...demands from feminists to have women only short lists to get more women in the board room the houses of parliament etc etc etc
women only short lists for parliament? so the actual standing male mp isn't allowed to stand for his own seat? how democratic is that?> if it happened the other way around anywhere else in the world the feminists would be rioting and the politicians would set up embargos
its a total joke

12% of male teachers in primary school.....2% of teachers below 8 yrs old in the USA........with fathers ostracised most kids have no male rold model in their lives, utterly tragic

as for murdering prostitutes Ill leave that to the anti Christ above, I don't feel the need to pay prostitutes or to kill them, my missus loves me thanks for caring though....

I don't see why having a vagina should advantage women in dominating our kids education..time for the equal opportunity preachers and hypocritical male hating feminists to look for balance on both sides...but the feminazis are more concerned with getting more women on stamps and the allegation on bbc news that boys get an average 50p more pockey money...to hell with the trivial issues of kids and boys education going to hell.....the thousands abused in care homes and hospitals....the mass suicides of young males in the Uk....yes stamps is a far bigger issues...the feminazis have their fingers on the pulse again? selfish biased male hating? just a touch

So no posters have said that then? Thats what I was asking.

And the problem is much more likely to be males not wanting to teach primary school kids, than women being favoured tbh. As I said earlier, schools are crying out for ANY teachers, so doubt blokes are being passed up.

you have zero evidence to back that up. I have the facts 2% and 12% these are the facts. do you think those figures are acceptable? what do you think can be done to improve those figures? Ive made umpteen suggestions, such as changing the environment to suit males too, positive discrimination too....there are also clearly paranoias against men....the double CRB checks should be plenty for them to know if a man has a dodgy past too...feminists fight for getting more oney in all areas they are under represented...shouldn't the same be done for men under represented too? isn't that fair? shouldn't the eqiual opportunity people fight for that too?
ps Ive been accused of being a potential murdrer of women and prostitutes, why haven't you found it in you to be offended by that and told off the poster? or do you pick and choose what you decide to be offended by according to your own agenda? sounds hypocritical and biased much like the feminazi agenda and the couldn't care less attitude about male teachers and role models

I have as much evidence to back that up as you do for your theory about it being all about crazy feminists and discrimination.

I don't think much an be done to improve those figures, as my theory is that most men just dont WANT to teach younger kids. The fact that the gender balance becomes more balanced as ages of kids goes up kinda backs that up. Short of picking a few thousand men at random each year and forcing them to get their teaching qualification, then forcing them to teach primary school kids(which would be very wrong), nothing can be done IMO.

Also I'm not offended by anything you have written. Not sure why you would think that.

And tbh I am probably about as far from a 'feminist' (at least your meaning of it) as you can get

I have facts you have baseless theories....why don't you care about this and why cant you think of anything to be done to improve it? youd no doubt care about women under represented and demand action to improve it...as do the feminists....yet not when men are under represented..double standards.
why do u suggest the only option is for men get forced into the job , what utter nonsense......are you also saying the Only way to get women into parliament is to force them with a pitchfork. nonsense. they fight to change the environment to encourage women and they have women only short lists...why don you and the feminists fight for the same for men under represented to an even greater degree? if not why not? anything less is feminist hypocrisy and exposes their agenda as biased and selfish

This is a serious question now truth... Do you do anything about your thoughts and ideas? Do you get out there and lobby for support? The only reason there is more equality now where women are concerned is because of the women who fought for it...they got out there and did something whilst there were plenty of women sat at one moaning about being classed as second hand citizens...but the few that gotout there and gave up their freedom and lives in some cases made a difference. It's all very well you giving us these statistics but on a Big Brother forum what are we really expected to do? My son is reaching school age next year and I want him to have the best possible education, as long as the curriculum is followed and he learns in a happy, healthy environment I really don't care that much if he has male or female teachers...as long as he learns

The only fact you have is that 12% of primary school teachers are male. Thats it. Nothing else.

I cant think of anything that can be done to improve it because (like you) I do not know the reason for the low figure. If its because men are being turned down, then theres a problem. If its because they just do not want to do the job and would rather teach older kids, then there is not a problem. We don't know which it is.

I dont give a stuff about women being under represented in any job. I have already said this with your parliament argument :conf: I think as long as someone does a job properly, it doesn't matter what genitalia they have.

2% facts too? hello?

you have no facts at all.

I agree about meritocracy. However if our society demands more equal representation in all walks of life from parliament to boardrooms and beyond, then it should work both ways where men are scandalously under represented

No, I have no facts at all. You are quite correct. However if everyone (including you) stuck to only posting facts, this thread would never have got past the OP, as you have added nothing else factual throughout the thread either? You have added opinions, as has everyone else.

where are you getting this 12%!!!!! from?

it says on this site that it's 19% males compared with 81% female?

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/r...e-still-needed

And on the rise...

My opinions based on facts....yours are utterly baseless and contradict the rules of feminism which fight for equality?

They aren't though. As I said, the ONLY facts you have is the percentage of male primary school teachers, and from looking at the government site, it appears the 12% is wrong anyway?

Interesting too how the schools with female head teachers on average employ fewer male teachers.

Exactly. I'd say the 5% increase within 3/4 years is pretty amazing

I think schools up here must differ from the 'norm'

I had a male headteacher throughout school. Yet still a massive shortage of male teachers (until senior school)

|It is marvellous to see that increase in the past 18 months , but it will take years for it to show on national statistics in helping kids have a more balanced education. clearly the nasty tories have done better than labour in this area....labour talk a good game but their pro feminist politically correct results have been a total disaster. just as was their women only parliamentary seats, a total anti democratic disgrace

As the question of Westminster keeps being tossed up... The selection of MPs is a complicated business. Deselecting a sitting MP is not an easy thing to do as the deselection (at the next general election) of Tim Yeo recently has proved, and he hasn't been deselected in favour of a woman, he's been deselected because he's useless.

Only one party - Labour - run women-only shortlists. The Conservatives, for instance do not, despite women Conservative MPs being heavily outnumbered 48 female to 256 male. *

Men are not being discouraged to become teachers, they obviously don't want to join the profession, otherwise, what's stopping them? Blaming women in general, and feminists in particular, is both erroneous and ridiculous.

*
http://www.ukpolitical.info/female-m...parliament.htm

http://www.ukpolitical.info/FemaleMPs.htm

funny how you "choose" one alleged example which is pro feminist yet flied against all thew nationwide evidnce that female head teacher employ more female teachers tha the average....biased ?