I feel this is veering off in a direction that wasn't zees intention, we all have an opinion on moderation but that was not the question posed was it?

Tbh I'd sooner have 4/5 weeks of someone pretending to behave than having them acting dickish all the time, being banned for a few days then coming back and carrying on acting the same

I think it is interesting to get different points of view on it, don't have a problem discussing it at all.

I'd rather people like that were just banned full stop.

:worship: My point exactly.

Yeah I didn't really anticipate arista accusing me of wanting some kind of forum game :laugh: I just wondered what people thought

yes, of course

The anonymous nature of moderation protects those handing out unfair infractions too, I doubt very much all moderarors agree on them 100% of the time.
Removing appeals and queries was another shift towards a very undemocratic forum, just my opinion you understand.

Well I don't see that happening any time soon :laugh:

To be fair people were abusing and misusing the appeals forum more than anything. It deserved to go because people used it incorrectly far too often.

I think a lot of people on here think of the whole moderator thing as way more serious than it actually is :laugh:

And to be fair to the people who just used it for an appeal or a query it didn't deserve to be removed as far as I see.

The ratio was about 85% misuse to 15% using it correctly. :laugh:

I actually think the mods are great here, generally they are impartial and they do their job well. I think inactive ones should be taken down but that's not in a nasty way, just to keep the mods as active as possible.

Ammi should be a mod though, that's my only complaint! :P

I don't believe that, I thought it was great it brought whatever the issue was to the attention of all the moderators as opposed to one or two.
It was surprising how some things were seen very differently depending on who answered your query :laugh:

Except that that the anonymity doesn't protect us as we pretty much moderate each other.

The Appeals thing is ridiculous as you were one of the people that misused it. This isn't the UN, love. Rules are rules and if you don't follow them then you will be infracted, opening it up for debate just leads to people trying their luck every time they're rightfully infracted which is a waste of our time. The Appeals section was a privilege that the majority of the forum members couldn't be trusted with.

I personally wouldn't like to see elected mods,I would guess it is likely that decisions by mods are looked at in some way.

I think the system works fine as it is with admin making the decisions,there have only I think been 2 new mods installed since I joined and they were 2 really excellent choices in my view.Sadly we lost one of them far too soon.

So for me, things as they are now as to selection and ongoing matters is the best way I'd say.

No need to start finger pointing babs, rules are rules yes and moderators do get reprimanded too sometimes I guess?

I think the alerting system needs to be reviewed :suspect:

this tbf

but the majority of mods aren't that bad

You get reviewed in every job, I don't see why moderators should not be reviewed from time to time. But then, they are an unelected, unqualified body who discipline the rest of the forum for misdemeanours as they see fit, not always in keeping with "the rules" and with no attention to precedent. Meanwhile the right of appeal has recently been removed. Let's just say if TiBB was a country, I wouldn't be expecting an election any time soon.

Having said that... I'm mostly happy with the Mods we have.

Aren't most mods inactive ?

Most of the mods are pretty helpful and nice tbh,but some seem to let their mod status go to their head and can be quite obnoxious and rude sometimes.

"Rules" would appear to be made up on the spur of the moment "depending on my mood" kind of ad hoc basis.