Some women are bigger than men. Is it ok for a short man to ht a tall woman? I think the sentiment behind the notion is exactly the one that people complain is misogynistic. If I made an announcement that women shouldn't be in the army as they would be disadvantaged in hand-to-hand combat, I would rightly be set-upon. If people are going to live by their holier-than-thou diatribe, they shouldn't be selective. People shouldn't abuse people, but I refuse to accept that I have less right to be vocal obstinate and invasive of another's personal space than a woman (Luisa) due to the fact that I am male. Dappy's tiny anyway, but stature clearly wasn't the consderation when he was lambasted. Even Luisa mocked him for being a "little man rying to be a gangster".

Maybe so but we are judged as people by our deeds in life. In my eyes there is no excuse for what he did to that and that is why I don't like him.

We all have had moments in the heat of the moment. Everybody has been in situations where things can boil over but it's a poor defence for a man for 'the red mist' to suddenly descend on him.

Great point. Hitting big women is cool. I try to only punch women who are over 6ft1", because those bitches deserve it the most.

This is why Niamh said in general. You can't discount the obvious physical differences IN GENERAL between women and men just because one woman out of the hundred is 6 ft 4 and one other man happens to be 5 ft 3 and in a wheelchair so she could beat him up.

I did say generally speaking and it's not just size, it's muscle mass, men have more whether they're tall or small or whatever, that's a fact. Again, i do agree with you that no one should hit anyone, but I do think it's worse when a stronger person attacks someone weaker yeah, and *generally* speaking most men are stronger then most women

Dappy could extend that sense of nobility to the belief that the female sex is a more precious and morally pure gender than males and thus, their sexual conduct is expected to reflect this. But that would be misogynistic. When is it permissible to reject implications of current/modern political correctness? I struggle with aspects as well so this is no assault SM, but it does befuddle me at times as to how we attack others, oblivious to the implications of what we ourselves do and say everyday. I open doors for women and let them sit if I'm standing, but am always aware of what I'm ultimately suggesting and would think they were right if they did bollock me for being a rude arse.

..but this is about specifics about Jim and what he's done and the physical injuries to his wife, who wasn't far bigger than him or able to overpower him...

..yeah, they shouldn't really grow above 5'6''..:laugh:...

I understand the concept you are arguing mate and I have been conflicted with this on occasion too.

The way I see it now is it's just good manners and noble for me to open doors for women or let them have your seat on a bus. Ok you might get the odd woman have a go and call you a chauvinist (never happened to me personally) but I think the vast majority of women will see it for what it is which is good decorum and virtue. Don't you ever get women tell you that not enough men are like this nowadays?

I personally have no problem with the rule of never hitting a woman mostly for the reasons Niamh has elegantly put forward. We may strive for equality between the sexes and that's great but ultimately there will still be physical discrepancies between the genders and that's the way I look at it now mate.

I disapprove of what he did to another person, not on the man-to-woman basis, as I feel it would be equally as disgraceful had it been to another man. I intentionally make this decision to see if I can practice the equality that I preach and it is exhausting. Next step, I will tell my missus to take the rubbish out herself as it's her blimming week.

I hope he has learnt or is learning from what he was, but he may/may not. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, I have not yet been disappointed. Maybe further down the line, maybe not.

do you seriously give up your set on the bus just because it's a woman?

lmao strong white knight

Women, elderly, very young kids, people with lots of shopping. Just seemed the right thing to do.:shrug:

"strong white knight" - there's a whole new thread! Am reading "blink" by macolm gladwell and it has me all obsessed with the power of language and its implications. Always food for thought on this forum. Need Big Brother all year round!

...oh, I hope she takes her turn and takes the rubbish out next week, then...:laugh:..

aww Kyle, such a gent :love:

If I disappear after today, you need to tell the authorities what happened.:laugh:

Thanks fair maiden :cat:

There was this one time I was going to college and I had a bad morning and I didn't get up near the back, leaving this elderly woman to stand for the remainder of the journey. Felt guilty all day, I probably just did it so i didn't need to feel bad :hugesmile:

Very well said absolutely agree

Just don't you lay a finger on her! :hugesmile:

Take your impending murder with manly dignity. :elephant:

Yes he did not get on with that one
He now has a Younger Lady

So thats all in the past.

Will even chop some wood and build a fire beforehand in case she decides to burn my corpse. She can wash the knives once she's pulled them out of me as that's her job...

That's the spirit. :hugesmile:

I properly just LOLed at this :laugh2:

I personally think that a man who could do those things to the mother of his children has an intrinsically nasty nature that can maybe be curbed, but not changed. Not to mention his self confessed chauvinism, his 'past' homophobia and racism etc.
However, I can understand that some want to give him the benefit of the doubt and that is fine.
What I don’t get is the over – the – top support for him and how to some he can do no wrong in the house. I have seen him being snide, manipulative and two faced yet his supporters never see this – as I said in another thread:

He is being made out as some kind of poor saintly victim. For a man with his history it’s quite incomprehensible to a lot of people that he isn’t just given the benefit of the doubt but is admired and applauded for what exactly? – keeping his temper under control and not lashing out at someone? What a changed man!
It’s not as if he is even that likeable – he’s miserable and not very entertaining. The other HM’s obviously aren’t keen on him as they have nearly all nominated him. So what is making people support him so passionately and part with their hard earned money to vote for him?

It’s puzzling for sure.

Nearly 40 years ago.