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smeagol 02-03-2014 07:53 PM

more war,

worst mistake in history was the russian one. germany knew it. we knew it. the u.s knew it.
now look at it. missed chances
its crazy why are we getting involved now. let them get on with it. and so should the u.s

Z 02-03-2014 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6738131)
But the amount of time Ukrainians have been terrorized and intimidated by Russians is much longer than 23 years.

Of course, but in the first instance that is why there is such a strong link between Russia and the Crimea. Historically it was never part of Ukrainian territory. There is a significant minority of Russians in the Ukraine which is why Russia considers it part of its sphere of influence. Same goes for Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, Georgia, Azerbaijan etc etc etc... where there are large numbers of Russian people, Russia will always show an interest. It arguably uses energy like a carrot and stick (I'm writing my dissertation about this topic at the moment) - the carrot to reward; the stick to punish. It's a very interesting country and I'm intrigued to see what happens next. I hope no more lives are lost.

arista 02-03-2014 08:30 PM

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...-mark3-011.jpg
many love Putin

lostalex 02-03-2014 08:34 PM

Mardi Gras parade in Sydney to send political message to Russian president Vladimir Putin

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-0...-putin/5292636

http://www.gaynz.com/articles/upload...aWoodburn_.jpg


The Aussies try hard... bless them.

MTVN 02-03-2014 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6738516)
more war,

worst mistake in history was the russian one. germany knew it. we knew it. the u.s knew it.
now look at it. missed chances
its crazy why are we getting involved now. let them get on with it. and so should the u.s

Which mistake is that :suspect:

Me. I Am Salman 02-03-2014 08:41 PM

I hope Putin dies slowly

Novo 02-03-2014 08:42 PM

I hope Obama does at the hands of Putin

lostalex 02-03-2014 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novo (Post 6738777)
I hope Obama does at the hands of Putin

That's disgusting. shame on you.

In what possible way do you think that would make the world better?

Novo 02-03-2014 10:59 PM

I think that reply was suppose to be for Salman but you quoted my post by accident

MTVN 02-03-2014 11:08 PM

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg

lostalex 02-03-2014 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novo (Post 6739071)
I think that reply was suppose to be for Salman but you quoted my post by accident

no, i was responding to you saying you hope that Obama dies slowly at the hands of Putin, you said that right?

WTF

Liberty4eva 02-03-2014 11:59 PM

I wish the West would butt out. How on earth is it a matter the US and UK should be involved in?

lostalex 03-03-2014 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 6739117)
I wish the West would butt out. How on earth is it a matter the US and UK should be involved in?

If the US butted out, you'd be a soviet republic right now,. all of Europe would be part of the USSR since 1945, and i'm sure Putin wishes that alternate past had happened. he's clearly trying to build a new USSR.

The only reason all of Europe was not absorbed by the Russians is because of the USA. And even though the Russians got half of Europe back then, we;'ve been working hard to free eastern Europe from them the whole time. The USA fought the cold war for YOU, don;'t forget that.

Shaun 03-03-2014 02:33 AM

alex taking his americanadrama against a fellow patriot #awks

lostalex 03-03-2014 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 6739255)
alex taking his americanadrama against a fellow patriot #awks

I'm used to it, don't worry. Teenagers hating america, it's a typical teenage phase. he'll wake up when he's 30.

Americans that hate America, i went through that phase too. he's gonna start educating himself, and trust me, 6 years from now, he'll be laughing about how silly he was when he was younger. he'll tell stories about how he supported Putin in the Crimea war when he was younger at a 4th of July Barbecue. everyone will laugh and have a beer.

lostalex 03-03-2014 02:41 AM

on a serious note though, Russia needs to back the **** off. Putin is about to piss off his best customers, the EU...

I thought the customer is always right? Russian service is appalling. Putin needs to learn how to be a better host. especially after his failed olympics and his now failed g8 summit.

looks like he can't do anything right.

Novo 03-03-2014 02:50 AM

Piss off the Olympics were a success, they showed how athletically dominate they were over you lot

lostalex 03-03-2014 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novo (Post 6739269)
Piss off the Olympics were a success, they showed how athletically dominate they were over you lot

yea, Russians are good at winter sports, considering they live in the arctic, they should be... especially after billions of dollars are pumped into it, shock/surprise. Obviously tyne host nation has an advantage, in both the judging, but also just in home field advantage... but the whole thing was a disaster because i don';t think anyone who watched the olympics came away having respect for the host nation... it felt like a soul-less olympics. it was like watching an animation of the olympics. it didn't feel real, there was no soul in it, we came away feeling like we got it done and over with. we saw what Putin wanted us to see, and nothing more. No one will remember those games fondly.

no one was impressed. it wasn't special in any way.

there was no heart in the Sochi games.

Novo 03-03-2014 03:08 AM

Think your forgetting when Sotnikova won the Gold it was the most passionate and emotional scene in Olympics history maybe only matched in 2012 when GSTQ was ringing around the Olympic stadium and Jess Ennis was in tears on the Podium

lostalex 03-03-2014 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novo (Post 6739275)
Think your forgetting when Sotnikova won the Gold it was the most passionate and emotional scene in Olympics history maybe only matched in 2012 when GSTQ was ringing around the Olympic stadium and Jess Ennis was in tears on the Podium

is that the russian girl who clearly stole the gold from the better japanese figure skater?

That was heartless and heartbreaking.

It's just pathetic when everyone knows the gold medal isn't earned.

geo-political issues aside, it stole a medal from a girl who had worked her whole life and deserved it. i don't know how anyone can not have sympathy for that Japanese girl./ she skated her ass off, and deserved it.

It made me ashamed to be a human. I thought the olympics were supposed to make me proud to be human. It's supposed to celebrate the best of mankind. instead, we felt like mankind is just as selfish as we suspected.

thanks for confirming that Putin, it made my fragile heart shrivel 1 size smaller. :(

arista 03-03-2014 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6739073)

Yes
as America can do Feck All.

arista 03-03-2014 04:07 AM

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg

lostalex 03-03-2014 04:09 AM

Why are the British press being so easy on Putin?

This ain't Churchill's Britain, that's for sure. hmmmph.

arista 03-03-2014 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6739339)
Why are the British press being so easy on Putin?

This ain't Churchill's Britain, that's for sure. hmmmph.

At this time no blood has gone down
Putin is stronger than USA
he did not invade Iraq.

lostalex 03-03-2014 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6737960)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...%2C_Stalin.jpg
The "Big Three" at the Yalta Conference in Crimea: Winston Churchill, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Joseph Stalin
1945

you can definitely tell who is the odd man out in that photo :joker:

FDR is such an amazing man. especially considering his disability. he literally saved the world. I love FDR so much, and his wife too, Eleanor was an amazing woman.


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