Listened to the clip again and Helen said to Toya that Ash just asked 'Did you get the choice to pick Kimberly'? Toya then said that they all need to calm the ****down ,that's when it kicked off .
Toya's response kicked the argument off.

[QUOTE=Brother Leon;6965549]Ash's popularity is going to skyrocket. Not sure how you think this makes him in danger. Toya is the second most disliked in there and making her look stupid is going to be great for him.[/QUOTE

I agree, this could give a boost to his image with the viewers.

There's nothing wrong with telling someone to calm down.

But screaming and shouting "calm down!!!!" at people who are calm is just stupid.

It's not worth explaining and getting attacked for the next 2 hours lol

Again, no one would hold it against Winston, so why Toya?

A certain former 'immature brat' is regarded as one of the greatest housemates of all time.

Your point

No they wouldn't be clapping not if he was the only one shouting and screaming.

After watching the vid a fair few times now and listening closely it is seeming more like Ash never called Toya a prick until she started telling them all to calm the f down, we wont know for definite until the highlights though.

I just said why. Because Winston was calm and Toya was the one screaming at everyone who dared to speak.

Can Winston ever be taken seriously? He just laughs at everything! He's in his own little bubble

People are judging based on 2 minutes when this argument has probably been going on for 2/3 hours

The thing about Toya is that everything she tells people applies to herself more. Telling Jale that she's not listening, yelling at Christopher for talking behind people's backs, shouting at people to calm down, etc. And like, it could be entertaining but she's so humorless and earnest about it and is usually directing it at housemates who are actually likable that it's more frustrating than anything. She's an irritant and nothing more.

He said the funniest comment of the clip though :laugh:

What relevance is this to the discussion?

Ash calling Toya a prick came before the video as clever BB is making out Toya is not he wrong here

:conf: So are you.

These clips are all we have to go on so that's what we're discussing. Reading through the thread everybody has acknowledged we need the highlights to put this 2 minutes into context.

He's a dumb mess who doesn't have a clue what's going on

So you can judge Winston from the video but we can't with Toya? :hehe:

You claimed that you disliked Toya based on her nature as an immature brat but history shows that it won't go against her

I was sure it was when he walked away when she was telling them all to calm the f down?

Wow your last 3 posts have been as a response to mine

I judged Winston long before this evening

toyas voice needs to be more shrill

No I didn't. :conf:

I was putting this supposed "abuse of Toya" you claimed into a wider context. Comprehension is your friend.

So don't try to call out other people for doing the same with Toya.

Yes, it's called a conversation. Stay on topic.