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Niamh. 26-11-2014 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7391281)
You have a choice drop you gun
or be shot

That child did the wrong thing , sadly


Its USA Normal Police work

But he's a child, maybe he panicked? The Police should be trained better to deal with this sort of thing.

Crimson Dynamo 26-11-2014 11:31 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-boy/19471925/

this is the call

Niamh. 26-11-2014 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7391293)

The caller didn't sound overly concerned or scared though tbf and again, i know I keep repeating myself but a 12 year old playing with a toy gun like that caller described sounds about normal for a kid his age :shrug:

Crimson Dynamo 26-11-2014 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7391321)
The caller didn't sound overly concerned or scared though tbf and again, i know I keep repeating myself but a 12 year old playing with a toy gun like that caller described sounds about normal for a kid his age :shrug:

At no time did anyone say he was 12. It was a man and then perhaps a juvenile the caller said.

At no time did the caller (who called the cops mind) say - oh its just kids playing.

This was a gun that looked like a real firearm and not a toy

Niamh. 26-11-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7391324)
At no time did anyone say he was 12. It was a man and then perhaps a juvenile the caller said.

At no time did the caller (who called the cops mind) say - oh its just kids playing.

This was a gun that looked like a real firearm and not a toy

I've seen the picture of the boy, he looks really young, that article also states that he never pointed the gun at the officers, poor kid was probably trying to show them it wasn't a real gun.

Crimson Dynamo 26-11-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7391325)
I've seen the picture of the boy, he looks really young, that article also states that he never pointed the gun at the officers, poor kid was probably trying to show them it wasn't a real gun.

You saw probably an old pic of the boy, he may have looked different to the cops. When the cops shouted down he made a move for the gun, cops do not wait until the gun is pointing at them otherwise they would be not many cops left

Niamh. 26-11-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7391328)
You saw probably an old pic of the boy, he may have looked different to the cops. When the cops shouted down he made a move for the gun, cops do not wait until the gun is pointing at them otherwise they would be not many cops left

Well, if cops in America have a shoot to kill policy on any person carrying a gun that looks remotely like a real gun no matter what their age then maybe they should ban fake guns in America cos that is crazy.

And how do you know that picture is old, wow I don't know why you can't even entertain the possibility that the police might have made a bad call here and as a result a child is dead

GiRTh 26-11-2014 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7391328)
You saw probably an old pic of the boy, he may have looked different to the cops. When the cops shouted down he made a move for the gun, cops do not wait until the gun is pointing at them otherwise they would be not many cops left

:facepalm:

There are always so many assumptions in your posts. Why dont you stick to what we know rather than telling us what you probably think may have happened.

Crimson Dynamo 26-11-2014 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7391330)
Well, if cops in America have a shoot to kill policy on any person carrying a gun that looks remotely like a real gun no matter what their age then maybe they should ban fake guns in America cos that is crazy.

And how do you know that picture is old, wow I don't know why you can't even entertain the possibility that the police might have made a bad call here and as a result a child is dead

It was not a toy gun it was a replica, that means unless you hold it and analyse it it looks real.

The cop thought it was real and thought he was about to be shot. End of story.


Dont play with replica guns in public places in America

GiRTh 26-11-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7391333)
It was not a toy gun it was a replica, that means unless you hold it and analyse it it looks real.

The cop thought it was real and thought he was about to be shot. End of story.


Dont play with replica guns in public places in America

Thought he was about to be shot by a child? Thats some fine police work.

Crimson Dynamo 26-11-2014 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7391335)
Thought he was about to be shot by a child? Thats some fine police work.

a youth and you dont die any different depending on who shot you

Crimson Dynamo 26-11-2014 12:22 PM

Did you know the colour of the officer who shot the boy?

GiRTh 26-11-2014 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7391337)
a youth and you dont die any different depending on who shot you

Not even a teenager. Thats some threat.

GiRTh 26-11-2014 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7391338)
Did you know the colour of the officer who shot the boy?

Why is that relevant?

Crimson Dynamo 26-11-2014 12:27 PM

Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, said the officers were not told the caller thought the gun might be fake.

GiRTh 26-11-2014 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7391343)
Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, said the officers were not told the caller thought the gun might be fake.

But it was clearly stated in the call that the gun might be a fake. That sounds like incompetence to me but no doubt that is justification to you.

GiRTh 26-11-2014 12:31 PM

http://www.ask.com/health/average-he...0d104f73bb0c07

According to Ask.com the average height for a 12 year old boy is 58-62 inches. Barely five foot. The officer must have been ****ting himself.

EDIT - and at that age girls are usually taller than boys./ Would he have been scared if it was girl? Its an absolute joke to say that officer was scared.

Liam- 26-11-2014 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7391345)
http://www.ask.com/health/average-he...0d104f73bb0c07

According to Ask.com the average height for a 12 year old boy is 58-62 inches. Barely five foot. The officer must have been ****ting himself.

Yes he must have been, the kid had a gun, that the officer thought was real.. it's not the boy that was dangerous, but add the gun into the mix, then he is dangerous.

Tom4784 26-11-2014 12:33 PM

Rationalising the murder of a child? Some people have no shame.

GiRTh 26-11-2014 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7391346)
Yes he must have been, the kid had a gun, that the officer thought was real.. it's not the boy that was dangerous, but add the gun into the mix, then he is dangerous.

At that age girls are usually taller than boys. Would he have been scared if it was girl? Its an absolute joke to say that officer was scared.

Liam- 26-11-2014 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7391349)
At that age girls are usually taller than boys. Would he have been scared if it was girl? Its an absolute joke to say that officer was scared.

You seem to be missing the point.. if it was the kid on his own, no the officer or anybody wouldn't have been scared.. but the kid had a - what was thought to be a real - gun, that's what added the danger, so the height of the child is completely irrelevant.

arista 26-11-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7391347)
Rationalising the murder of a child? Some people have no shame.


Dezzy America
is like that

GiRTh 26-11-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7391351)
You seem to be missing the point.. if it was the kid on his own, no the officer or anybody wouldn't have been scared.. but the kid had - what was thought to be - a real gun, that's what added the danger, so the height of the child is completely irrelevant.

It matters that the person was a child. I find it hard to believe that a trained Police officer was afraid of a child to the extent that he felt he had to shoot them. I dont find it believable.

Crimson Dynamo 26-11-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7391345)
http://www.ask.com/health/average-he...0d104f73bb0c07

According to Ask.com the average height for a 12 year old boy is 58-62 inches. Barely five foot. The officer must have been ****ting himself.

EDIT - and at that age girls are usually taller than boys./ Would he have been scared if it was girl? Its an absolute joke to say that officer was scared.

averages are made from many different heights



reaching...

Crimson Dynamo 26-11-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7391347)
Rationalising the murder of a child? Some people have no shame.

So the officer should have just been shot by the child because he was just a child about to shoot him?



No, naughty cops, just shoot adults who want to kill you, and only male adults


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