Yes and you assume that scared people whether right or wrong associate all that they are scared about as a racist.

To me that is a sad thing. And all too simplistic. And one that i will have no truck with.

Alexander is a race.. he is black but yes, also American, so you sir are wrong. And don't try to make me out to be someone who jumps at the slightest things with regards to culture and race, we have been discussing some BIG incidents here.

Alexander is a name!

Ofc course it is but I thought we were discussing the person Alexnder O neal.. Do I seriously have to spell that out to you? Or you just here to chat rubbish?

I will leave that to you Sir.

Your probably better at it than me judging by your last few posts but ok.

Abhorson just latched into Alexanders comments and assumed without actually reading what he said that he was referring to muslim terrorists. He never said the word "muslim" or mentioned terrorism once. He only referred to arabs. In America most arabs are Christians.
He was clearly talking about arab storeowners where he grew up and his experiences with them.

Like most shallow minded people unfortunately he avoids the detail and goes with the most simple information to form opinions :)

Just like BB, you decide!

Yes I know and he was claiming I was somehow "making assumptions" by referring to what Alexander actually said.
He was the one making massive assumptions.

lol he did that to me too or tried. You see some people come to this forum and discuss things with passion because they believe in what they write about, some come here to argue for the sake of it and will drivel on and avoid the reality in order to try to win an argument. He forms part of the latter. And there are many of those, I wish TIBB could design a programme to auto ignore these fools.

Alexander and Ken giving older men a bad name with these types of comments.

So much has happened in past BBs I think last year it would have just been smacked wrists. New grounds now, I felt really sorry for him tbh. He slipped up in his drunken stupour. It could have all been handled differently.

Do black people get jealous of each other like women then?:evilgrin:

BB have become hysterical this year. Total hypocrites - they whip everyone up into a frenzy with all the freaks they put in there aimed at causing friction constanly manipulating everyone into fights - then censor any free speech from the stressed, hyped-up hms.

They chuck out two hms for very little, despite all the hype, then sit back and allow some hms to insult and bully others at will. The show is a joke.

So a drunken tug at a dressing-gown, some unpopular and politically incorrect comments from an older man are unacceptable but bullying, name-calling and ganging-up on other hms is okay. Only in BBs twisted, hypocritical world.

A lot of the black on black violence is turf wars between gangs so in a way it's jealousy.
Most black people aren't involved in any crime but it's a major problem which black people are in denial about. They prefer to focus on the rare occasion when a cop kills an unarmed black boy.

Ken's comments were nothing compared to Alexander's.

Everything in life depends on the reason behind the deed. Ken wasnt being viscious to Alex, Alex just pointed out to him that in the company of some black people he wouldnt have gotten away with it. The other so called slight was once again generalising on a conversation.
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Neither Ken nor Alex will suffer tbh as they are of the age where they have made their way in life. Whilst some of the public will criticise the other half will praise. This is life. Each one knows what is in their hearts. Each have their own fanbase. I do feel though that Ken may be annoyed, Alex will just carry on.

We all have our phobias, likes and dislikes, we all discuss our thoughts but naturally it doesnt go to press :cheer2:

I hope that Alex gets to the final as I would like to hear more of his singing and, I just like him......

The thing is though Alex didnt complain as such, he advised Ken that should he use the word to another black man he may be in trouble. Ken then went on to say about the children, once again Alex told him that that would also be taken the wrong way in this day and age. So far as we know Alex didnt go around talking about it, he was just being a friend to Ken.

I can remember episodes in the past when so much has been made of the same thing plus obesity, all sorts, just for camera attention. Chloe had her pennysworth with Jeremy, such a fuss was made. Nadia and Perez went to the diaryroom and threatened that they would walk out if Ken wasnt removed.....Imo Nadia made things a thousand times worse.

Do you still not see what you are saying!

But i love freedom of speech, so can take it.

Hi Sassy, so far they havent put negative things in the air, I wonder if they will. I thought that Katies beginnings would have been shown by now. One big joke with Preze playing up to the cameras, what chance do the others have? He goes way over the top imo.

Jesus Christ. Hope i won't be shot for that.

What does free speech mean to you Sassy?

What does free speech mean to you?

Any thing within the law of the land. And for yourself?