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Miranda123 30-01-2015 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7547102)
Urgh! I hate her so much that in the final i will pile up the vote for anyone who is with her. Anyone! Even Callum. :fist:

Im glad youre starting to become a Calum fan Vanessa lol

sarah2020 30-01-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7548891)
She's in it to win it, that's why she always sucks up to the public. Perez is the opposite. He's already rich, so does not care and does not need the money. :spin:

I just hope that Britain can see her game, but i do love watching her go at it with perez and he does give her a run for her money. Just arks me when people cheer giving her impression that her adoring public love her..but then she could become over confident and **** it up. Thats the beauty of BB you never know what turn it will take.

Kizzy 30-01-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 7548884)
Thanks for the correction. What I should of said is, I hope all those damaged, often intellectually challenged and sometimes mentally ill people make him feel good about himself.

Well, JK has sure done a number on you, the intellectually challenged and mentally ill used to simply be called people.
He is appealing to those who like to categorise into sub groups.

Lostie! 30-01-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7548716)
Well now here's your chance

Examples if that behaviour in the house

I don't need a "chance" to do anything, thanks. Katie is being careful to get the public on side in the house, as seen with her nauseating "I love the public" display. Not that her nasty self doesn't slip out now and again (a video posted today of her pulling faces as soon as Keith speaks, and then insulting him before storming off, for example).

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Originally Posted by Ridge (Post 7548895)
The old saying. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me" Biggins on CBBBOTS. Who by the way regards KH as a close friend, said KH is actually a generous kind funny person. He said her media persona is an act. She has a family to so, Controversy sells and attracts attention, Which proves by this. hread.:hehe:

Just like fish. HOOK, LINE AND SINKER :cheer2:

I don't care what Biggins says, and I don't care if it's a "media persona". The things she says a no less awful because they're part of an "act" (though I still don't believe they are, and nothing her "friends" say will change that).

And so what if she "has a family?" Plenty of nasty people do. What's your point?

And we're discussing all of the housemates, are we not? Are we supposed to not discuss any negative traits of KH, or risk being mocked for it? :conf:

I've fallen for nothing "hook, line and sinker". This is a BB forum where we discuss the housemates, one of which is Katie Hopkins. It's really as simple as that.

elliebrew 30-01-2015 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 7548915)
I don't need a "chance" to do anything, thanks. Katie is being careful to get the public on side in the house, as seen with her nauseating "I love the public" display. Not that her nasty self doesn't slip out now and again (a video posted today of her pulling faces as soon as Keith speaks, and then insulting him before storming off, for example).



I don't care what Biggins says, and I don't care if it's a "media persona". The things she says a no less awful because they're part of an "act" (though I still don't believe they are, and nothing her "friends" say will change that).

And so what if she "has a family?" Plenty of nasty people do. What's your point?

And we're discussing all of the housemates, are we not? Are we supposed to not discuss any negative traits of KH, or risk being mocked for it? :conf:

I've fallen for nothing "hook, line and sinker". This is a BB forum where we discuss the housemates, one of which is Katie Hopkins. It's really as simple as that.

So cannot back up your argument with proof.

Vanessa 30-01-2015 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah2020 (Post 7548904)
I just hope that Britain can see her game, but i do love watching her go at it with perez and he does give her a run for her money. Just arks me when people cheer giving her impression that her adoring public love her..but then she could become over confident and **** it up. Thats the beauty of BB you never know what turn it will take.

She won't win anyway. Katie Price will. they didn't pay her the highest fee for nothing. next week twist is all about her and will get her a lot of votes.

Lostie! 30-01-2015 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7548917)
So cannot back up your argument with proof.

I already "backed up my argument with proof", considering I was specifically referring to her pre-BB rants anyway. You only decided that we were discussing KH in the house only afterwards. :laugh2:

Her twitter rants are proof of the type of person she is. The fact that she bites her tongue a little bit more in the CBB house changes nothing about that (not that I think she's been an unfailingly nice person in the house, because she most definitely has not). :)

sarah2020 30-01-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ridge (Post 7548895)
The old saying. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me" Biggins on CBBBOTS. Who by the way regards KH as a close friend, said KH is actually a generous kind funny person. He said her media persona is an act. She has a family to feed. Controversy sells and attracts attention, Which proves by this. hread.:hehe:

Drawn in just like a fish. HOOK, LINE AND SINKER :cheer2:

ooh i dont know about that, I think she is naturally mean like that but she does have a good side and im sure friends and people she does admire would find her lovely. Either way she is entertaining to watch but we should we really back her to win? I say no because not everyone can handle sticks and stones and for many it can cause serious hurt and insecurity. She has hurt many with her words and a real lovely person would rather be poor than say and act the way she does for money.

Johnnyuk123 30-01-2015 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7547101)
Maybe look into your siggie a bit more Josy,he seems to have sussed it:hehe: but there and loads and loads of suck arses for us to love,we need people who are not scared to be hated by just giving an opinion,I like her for that,she may be scathing and sounds sometimes cruel,but,she's certainly brave in my book,it would be so simple for her to go along with the flow.

I agree 100% with this.

Also the truth often hurts. All credit to Katie Hopkins for not being a sheep i say! :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

Deebo 30-01-2015 07:34 PM

There is no truth and no integrity to Hopkins in the house or her fake character. That's why she's routinely taken apart by the likes of Peaches Geldof and Katie Price

She peddles an extremist neocon agenda, because she's paid to by Rupert Murdoch, but she's barely politically literate enough to have researched and studied enough to give her tweets, rants and diatribes any element of "truth" whatsoever

She speaks the "truth" like Alf Garnett spoke the "truth"

Northern Monkey 30-01-2015 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7547103)
Why do we need people to speak our opinion? We are well capable of speaking our own opinions.

But honestly the point of my OP wasn't for people to explain why they like Katie Hopkins again, it was asking if she's only 'speaking the truth' why are none of those truths ever nice, or not even nice but just not nasty?

Because she does'nt want to be seen as a 'nice' person.I think quietly she's nicer than she tries to portray.

Robodog 30-01-2015 07:54 PM

On one hand she peddles this OTT 'thorn-in-the-side of the PC brigade' persona that drops all manner of clangers about people being 'too fat', 'too ginger' etc etc.

On the other hand, it seems that lots of people are saying 'she is actually really nice and funny'.

Who is she really? Maybe she is a bit of both?

Either way, even if she really is as bad as she sometimes makes out, then i would still defend her (and everyone's) right to offend me, or to be as offensive as they want to be.

Freedom of speech means the right to express opinions, even if they do offend others. Look at the countries or the regimes that take away that right. Do you want to live like that?

For all her faults, that is the appeal of Katie Hopkins; she doesn't bow down and surrender her right to express unpopular opinions, just because the media etc says 'that's what we should do'. Lots of people (including her) talk a lot of sh-t, but i would never want to have their right to talk sh-t taken away or we are all up sh-t creek.

Je Suis Charlie and all that.

Lstan 30-01-2015 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7547077)
I have lost count of the times I have noticed people saying 'Katie Hopkins is just speaking the truth' to defend her vile comments both in the house and now it seems her comments out of the house are being defended in the same way.

So my question is, why then is her just 'speaking the truth' always nasty, malicious, horrible and never a nice truth, never does she say something useful, endearing etc and claim it's just the truth?

Also when anyone tells her the truth (as they see it) her face goes pretty flushed because she can't take back what she gives out, but thats another thread.

Opinions

I have always heard her say she speaks opinions and not truth and thats beause a lot of what she says is ill informed and incorrect. she may speak stuff that a lot of people agree with but that does not equal truth. anyone who thinks she speaks "truth" because she says what they think is a full of **** as she is (and there's your harsh opinion for those who love that)


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