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poppsywoppsy 02-02-2015 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tormented mind (Post 7559801)
I am not, I am stating that you are part of the problem in society when the likes of KH can spout her vile intolerance for others by putting everyone with a disability that claims disability allowance into the category of being a scrounger who would suddenly find legs that worked so they could climb a ladder to get the money.

I believe you pander to this by laughing along with her at people with disabilities.

Even if you are disabled or not it's still (to me) disgusting that people do.

so please, show me where I have been offensive (considering you don't find laughing at disabled people offensive)

Could you keep this at discussion level and not aim it at the poster.

I only agree with KH on certain things which I have written many times.

She has said unfortunate things which I have again said I disagree with.

However, CBB is a game show, not political and should be viewed as only that.

I can take KH with a pinch of salt as I do not think it is worth getting over excited or abusive over.

She has no political powers so she cannot be blamed for anything happening in the world, all she has is her opinions.

If you disagree, absolutely fine but to get so angry about her is detrimental because at the end of the day she is impotent whilst others are letting themselves get all worked up because she is in a flipping game show which ends in a couple of days.

And breathe

Keep calm and vote for whoever you want and so will I.

Josy 02-02-2015 02:19 PM

Stick to discussing BB or housemates in here and NOT other members

Jack The Cat 02-02-2015 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559830)
Could you keep this at discussion level and not aim it at the poster.

I only agree with KH on certain things which I have written many times.

She has said unfortunate things which I have again said I disagree with.

However, CBB is a game show, not political and should be viewed as only that.

I can take KH with a pinch of salt as I do not think it is worth getting over excited or abusive over.

She has no political powers so she cannot be blamed for anything happening in the world, all she has is her opinions.

If you disagree, absolutely fine but to get so angry about her is detrimental because at the end of the day she is impotent whilst others are letting themselves get all worked up because she is in a flipping game show which ends in a couple of days.

And breathe

Keep calm and vote for whoever you want and so will I.

Brilliant post. Funny how both sides seem to have a very different style of debate, in a general sense.

The Penguin 02-02-2015 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559795)
So you feel able to speak for them through no wish from them personally.

I'm not speaking for you anyway. I don't really know or care what she said about fat people.
The thread and 99% of the replies are about her comments about the nurse who had Ebola.
Stop trying to make this about fat people just because one person mentioned that.

tormented mind 02-02-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559830)
Could you keep this at discussion level and not aim it at the poster.

I only agree with KH on certain things which I have written many times.

She has said unfortunate things which I have again said I disagree with.

However, CBB is a game show, not political and should be viewed as only that.

I can take KH with a pinch of salt as I do not think it is worth getting over excited or abusive over.

She has no political powers so she cannot be blamed for anything happening in the world, all she has is her opinions.

If you disagree, absolutely fine but to get so angry about her is detrimental because at the end of the day she is impotent whilst others are letting themselves get all worked up because she is in a flipping game show which ends in a couple of days.

And breathe

Keep calm and vote for whoever you want and so will I.

I am not getting angry! why would I?

Jack The Cat 02-02-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tormented mind (Post 7559801)
I am not, I am stating that you are part of the problem in society when the likes of KH can spout her vile intolerance for others by putting everyone with a disability that claims disability allowance into the category of being a scrounger who would suddenly find legs that worked so they could climb a ladder to get the money.

I believe you pander to this by laughing along with her at people with disabilities.

Even if you are disabled or not it's still (to me) disgusting that people do.

so please, show me where I have been offensive (considering you don't find laughing at disabled people offensive)

Not a cool post.:nono:

poppsywoppsy 02-02-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7559853)
Not a cool post.:nono:

Agreed:laugh:

poppsywoppsy 02-02-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tormented mind (Post 7559847)
I am not getting angry! why would I?

I was posting generally, not about you.

tormented mind 02-02-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7559808)
Why are you segregating disabled people out,as thought they are different,we are all the same somethings work, some don't,but just because someone is disabled does not mean they have lost a sense of humour along with their disability,or the ability to be open minded,what an insult.

Am I. Sorry all I was doing was quoting a tweet from the hater Hopkins about disabled people and then commentating on poppsywoppsys response.

If anyone has singled out disabled people it is Hopkins not me, But I am sorry if me quoting her and then discussing her quote has offended anyone, but I do believe you are blaming THE WRONG PERSON.

tormented mind 02-02-2015 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7559853)
Not a cool post.:nono:

Unlike the sig you so proudly display, a sig from the king of the chavs about glassing someone, you could not make this stuff up.

Josy 02-02-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tormented mind (Post 7559877)
Unlike the sig you so proudly display, a sig from the king of the chavs about glassing someone, you could not make this stuff up.

Stop ignoring the warning I posted in the thread.

The Penguin 02-02-2015 02:32 PM

I'm not sure I understand the sentiment that it doesn't matter what she said outside of the house. Would you vote for a convicted rapist if they were in the house?

Big Brother is a competition where the public votes for one of the contestants to win, presumably because they believe that person has qualities worth praising.
So her comments where she crudely mocks a woman who is near death are very relevant to a popularity based show like Big Brother.

MTVN 02-02-2015 02:39 PM

I find all the pouring over KH's past comments pretty tedious really. Yes a lot of them are disgusting, yes she's trying to be controversial for the sake of it, yes she said this, yes she said that, is it the sort of thing we all need to lose our heads over daily because of it. A lot of celebrity housemates have questionable views and questionable careers, it's what makes them attractive prospects for producers. I'm not normally one to say 'judge them by how they are in the house' because I think it's fair enough to base a dislike of someone on them saying stuff like this, and doing so unashamedly for publicity, but when we're three weeks into this series and still going on about it there's not much productive discussion to be had really.

tormented mind 02-02-2015 02:41 PM

l) Treat other forum members with respect. Posts which insult or direct profanity towards another member, will immediately be deleted, or edited out. This may lead to a ban.


still don't really see what I have done to merit an infraction thing!

poppsywoppsy 02-02-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7559886)
I'm not sure I understand the sentiment that it doesn't matter what she said outside of the house. Would you vote for a convicted rapist if they were in the house?

Big Brother is a competition where the public votes for one of the contestants to win, presumably because they believe that person has qualities worth praising.
So her comments where she crudely mocks a woman who is near death are very relevant to a popularity based show like Big Brother.

Again that is taking it to the utmost edges of discussion, we do not need to go that far.

It's a game show, if you like him or her vote for them or not.

So don't vote for Katie if you don't like her

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.

We know most of her opinions but some chose how she has been in the house as reason to vote for her. Others don't.

It will all be over soon and she will be gone apart from appearances on BBBOTS.

Also, I disagree with the qualities you quote for voting for a person, remember Helen Wood and Charlotte Crosby? I didn't care for them but accepted others did and sometimes it can be a vote against PC restraint, who knows, there will be another BB coming along in the summer which contestants will be more to your liking.

Jack The Cat 02-02-2015 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559951)
Again that is taking it to the utmost edges of discussion, we do not need to go that far.

It's a game show, if you like him or her vote for them or not.

So don't vote for Katie if you don't like her

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.

We know most of her opinions but some chose how she has been in the house as reason to vote for her. Others don't.

It will all be over soon and she will be gone apart from appearances on BBBOTS.

Hear, hear.

Jack The Cat 02-02-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tormented mind (Post 7559926)
l) Treat other forum members with respect. Posts which insult or direct profanity towards another member, will immediately be deleted, or edited out. This may lead to a ban.


still don't really see what I have done to merit an infraction thing!

I would suggest you address that issue with the Admin.

Lostie! 02-02-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559951)
Again that is taking it to the utmost edges of discussion, we do not need to go that far.

It's a game show, if you like him or her vote for them or not.

So don't vote for Katie if you don't like her

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.

We know most of her opinions but some chose how she has been in the house as reason to vote for her. Others don't.

It will all be over soon and she will be gone apart from appearances on BBBOTS.

Also, I disagree with the qualities you quote for voting for a person, remember Helen Wood and Charlotte Crosby? I didn't care for them but accepted others did and sometimes it can be a vote against PC restraint, who knows, there will be another BB coming along in the summer which contestants will be more to your liking.

The only thing being laid at her door is the comments she made.

tormented mind 02-02-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559951)
Again that is taking it to the utmost edges of discussion, we do not need to go that far.

It's a game show, if you like him or her vote for them or not.

So don't vote for Katie if you don't like her

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.

We know most of her opinions but some chose how she has been in the house as reason to vote for her. Others don't.

It will all be over soon and she will be gone apart from appearances on BBBOTS.

but if we all did that we would be left with, "I'm voting keith or I'm voting Katie" threads.

How the housemates are outside the house is very relevant especially celeb bb because how they have been outside the house is usually the catalyst for them being selected to go in the house, therefore it is very relevant to discuss how they have been outside the house, they do belong to us for the few weeks of bb.

tormented mind 02-02-2015 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7559964)
I would suggest you address that issue with the Admin.

If I cared one tiny bit I would, or if the boogers would answer the emails.

Kazanne 02-02-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7559922)
I find all the pouring over KH's past comments pretty tedious really. Yes a lot of them are disgusting, yes she's trying to be controversial for the sake of it, yes she said this, yes she said that, is it the sort of thing we all need to lose our heads over daily because of it. A lot of celebrity housemates have questionable views and questionable careers, it's what makes them attractive prospects for producers. I'm not normally one to say 'judge them by how they are in the house' because I think it's fair enough to base a dislike of someone on them saying stuff like this, and doing so unashamedly for publicity, but when we're three weeks into this series and still going on about it there's not much productive discussion to be had really.

:clap1::clap1:It's just the same old thing over and over,good post MTVN

poppsywoppsy 02-02-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tormented mind (Post 7559968)
but if we all did that we would be left with, "I'm voting keith or I'm voting Katie" threads.

How the housemates are outside the house is very relevant especially celeb bb because how they have been outside the house is usually the catalyst for them being selected to go in the house, therefore it is very relevant to discuss how they have been outside the house, they do belong to us for the few weeks of bb.

Not necessarily although you might have a point.

We could always try it for a change.:laugh::laugh:

Jack The Cat 02-02-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 7559966)
The only thing being laid at her door is the comments she made.

Tbf, I have seen lots of comments from people blaming Katie for issues that she has not commented on. One popular one seems to be her opinions directly lead to increasing numbers of people becoming terrorists.

Stormy 02-02-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559951)
Again that is taking it to the utmost edges of discussion, we do not need to go that far.

It's a game show, if you like him or her vote for them or not.

So don't vote for Katie if you don't like her

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.

We know most of her opinions but some chose how she has been in the house as reason to vote for her. Others don't.

It will all be over soon and she will be gone apart from appearances on BBBOTS.

Also, I disagree with the qualities you quote for voting for a person, remember Helen Wood and Charlotte Crosby? I didn't care for them but accepted others did and sometimes it can be a vote against PC restraint, who knows, there will be another BB coming along in the summer which contestants will be more to your liking.

Excellent post!!! :thumbs:

tormented mind 02-02-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559977)
Not necessarily although you might have a point.

We could always try it for a change.:laugh::laugh:

imagine the answers in the KH or Perez ones..Iam, I'm not, well I am , well go on then but I'm not, you should, I shouldn't, you will, I can't you could, please for me, no, yes.


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