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jennyfromtheblock8 11-07-2015 08:08 AM
Tory boy enough said

Kizzy 11-07-2015 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jessicadanielle (Post 7986992)
So annoying. Spends all week asking people what they would do in serious cash bomb situations, then when one arises, decides to rid himself of any responsibility.
I agree, he did his best to worm out of being part of the jury but relished the role of judge.

REDCROP 11-07-2015 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7987001)
Big brother told him personally to stand up and announce he group decision.. The fact that he didn't want to make a decision and the fact that he stood up when told are two separate issues. Im not sure what your argument is
They don't have an argument these people ....They only have opinions and negative statements with nothing to back it up ....its not fair ...its not fair....its a fix....Of course it's not fair ...its not supposed to be fair. ..its 150 grand ....what are they expecting to watch ? Long Lost Family ? ... Sam went fair and square, the only real shock was how she lasted so long, and Joel played a blinder ..made himself look sincere while making Danny look greedy....exactly what Chloe did 3 days ago ...different being that Joel hasn't spent the previous 8 weeks pretending to be Mother Thereza ...
Joel is a brilliant game player ....now we can all sit back as he goes in on Chloe to expose her for what she really is for those poor viewers who have no brain and still haven't worked it out yet

waterhog 11-07-2015 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7986958)
Taking the "moral highground" in an effort to draw attention to himself and his principled stance, when in actual fact he just wants to stand out to win a vote.

Typical politician.
i am no tory but i admire that.

billy123 11-07-2015 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by vafunghoul (Post 7987324)
They are all insecure and feel threatened by him.
Huge difference.

The James Bond wannabe Danny couldn't even spell CANOE for god's sakes.
These are complete buffoons. They're all so stupid they could get locked in a pantry and starve to death.
FFS Joel thought chickens layed eggs through a hole under their beaks not exactly brains of Britain himself is he.

joeysteele 11-07-2015 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jessicadanielle (Post 7987287)
Ok. The way I see it is to say "I'm completely abstaining... but we shouldn't evict Chloe" is not completely abstaining, it affects the outcome even if it is not a vote for someone. You clearly see it differently :)


Yes I do,strongly so.
The only person who really affected the outcome of this eviction was not in anyway Joel but Danny who made his pitch for Jack and Chloe and throwing Sam to the dogs.

I just wish 2 things could have happened.
1) that the housemates joined Joel and refused to 'vote to evict' any of the 3 eligible to go in this unnecessary and shocking twist.
or
2) that Chloe had got the £15,000 to then see what Danny would have set out to influence then.

Trasadkel1 11-07-2015 09:15 AM
Anyone who thought that Joel abstained from the vote for any other reason than to make himself look good must be deluded. Joel knew exactly what he was doing. The only reason it worked was because Danny was so keen to get the £15,000 added to the prize fund, he did he usual stance of taking over and put his vote in for Sam to be evicted. It would have been far more interesting if they had all stuck together to see what BB would have done.

If they had started counting down the prize fund would Joel have been so keen to stick to his decision.

joeysteele 11-07-2015 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Trasadkel1 (Post 7988572)
Anyone who thought that Joel abstained from the vote for any other reason than to make himself look good must be deluded. Joel knew exactly what he was doing. The only reason it worked was because Danny was so keen to get the £15,000 added to the prize fund, he did he usual stance of taking over and put his vote in for Sam to be evicted. It would have been far more interesting if they had all stuck together to see what BB would have done.

If they had started counting down the prize fund would Joel have been so keen to stick to his decision.




I actually think yes, because he likely in reality doesn't need the money, however he would like to be the winner of BB as anyone going into the house would.

He knows by now, going against BB brings penalties,he showed he wasn't bothered as to the prize fund with the pizza issue,and the prize fund was far lower at that time than it was last night.

Joel said his bit right off at the start, before anyone had said a word really.I actually give him credit for that,whereas Danny immediately counteracted that stand,and made his case for not only voting but also who to vote out.

Still Joel did not vote.I still say to his credit.
Then again I like him, you don't.

I dare bet had another hm/s said they were not going to vote at all in this, they would probably be termed wonderful for that.

vafunghoul 11-07-2015 11:53 AM
The ones who fall for shallow phonies like Cristian and Danny tend to dislike someone being truer to the person they are OUTSIDE the house.
Joel's voice/accent has never wavered like Cristian's, who trying to act the part of a celeb/performer.
Joel's never told anyone to shut up repeatedly nor shown aggression because he couldn't verbally force a house mate to succumb to his way of thinking. He allows others to have opinions.
You find him annoying, you find him smarmy. I get it. I really do. But of all that phoney dredge left in there he is the most real and most secure.
I thought I'd want Nick to win but he should turn his balls into society if he can find them. The rest of them have been bigger phonies all season.

billy123 11-07-2015 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vafunghoul (Post 7988811)
The ones who fall for shallow phonies like Cristian and Danny tend to dislike someone being truer to the person they are OUTSIDE the house.
Joel's voice/accent has never wavered like Cristian's, who trying to act the part of a celeb/performer.
Joel's never told anyone to shut up repeatedly nor shown aggression because he couldn't verbally force a house mate to succumb to his way of thinking. He allows others to have opinions.
You find him annoying, you find him smarmy. I get it. I really do. But of all that phoney dredge left in there he is the most real and most secure.
I thought I'd want Nick to win but he should turn his balls into society if he can find them. The rest of them have been bigger phonies all season.
Its Series not season and in your utter bollocks talking and calling other members shallow phonies you seem to have presumed that people who think Joel is a slimy little prick are fans of Cristian or Danny.
Your post is very poor 2/10

Beetlejuice 11-07-2015 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by waterhog (Post 7988522)
i am no tory but i admire that.
No one has said anything about being Tory or Labour. The point is that what he did was attempt to draw attention to himself taking a principled position which if he really believed in he would walk out of the house in protest over. But he doesn't. What he saw was an opportunity to try and make himself look good and to go on to smear his opponents as not being so.

If he has a problem with the rules, he should take it to the production team and walk out. Then and only then would I respect him.

Beetlejuice 11-07-2015 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7988902)
Its Series not season and in your utter bollocks talking and calling other members shallow phonies you seem to have presumed that people who think Joel is a slimy little prick are fans of Cristian or Danny.
Your post is very poor 2/10
Yep, I personally don't like Danny. Couldn't really care less about Cristian. And only really like Jack, though he is not without his failings.

Kazanne 11-07-2015 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jennyfromtheblock8 (Post 7988498)
Tory boy enough said
Nowt wrong with Tory boys we have a good one as PM.

vafunghoul 11-07-2015 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7988902)
Its Series not season and in your utter bollocks talking and calling other members shallow phonies you seem to have presumed that people who think Joel is a slimy little prick are fans of Cristian or Danny.
Your post is very poor 2/10
Season.
Big Brother Season.
Read it again. Big Brother was made world famous in the US after they improved upon the dutch series and each year of Big Brother is called a SEASON.
This is my first BBUK SEASON. You want to call it a Series, have at it.

:laugh::wavey:

Beetlejuice 11-07-2015 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7988562)
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Yes I do,strongly so.
The only person who really affected the outcome of this eviction was not in anyway Joel but Danny who made his pitch for Jack and Chloe and throwing Sam to the dogs.
The people who affected the outcome were the production team who knew full well what they were doing. The housemates have signed up to a show where they have a choice... Either protest against the rules the production team come up with or go along with them. Danny chose the latter and Joel, rather than protest against the production team, chose to smear his fellow housemates.

Quote:
I just wish 2 things could have happened.
1) that the housemates joined Joel and refused to 'vote to evict' any of the 3 eligible to go in this unnecessary and shocking twist.
or
2) that Chloe had got the £15,000 to then see what Danny would have set out to influence then.
What I would have liked to seen happen is Joel show that he really is principled by taking his complaint to Big Brother/Producers and walking out in disgust. Will he do that? No. Because what he's engaged in is little more than political point scoring as a vote to win has opened.

Kazanne 11-07-2015 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7988583)
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I actually think yes, because he likely in reality doesn't need the money, however he would like to be the winner of BB as anyone going into the house would.

He knows by now, going against BB brings penalties,he showed he wasn't bothered as to the prize fund with the pizza issue,and the prize fund was far lower at that time than it was last night.

Joel said his bit right off at the start, before anyone had said a word really.I actually give him credit for that,whereas Danny immediately counteracted that stand,and made his case for not only voting but also who to vote out.

Still Joel did not vote.I still say to his credit.
Then again I like him, you don't.

I dare bet had another hm/s said they were not going to vote at all in this, they would probably be termed wonderful for that.
Hey Joey,I'm with you ,I think Joel would make a worthy winner.:wavey:

Beetlejuice 11-07-2015 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by vafunghoul (Post 7988917)
Season.
Big Brother Season.
Read it again. Big Brother was made world famous in the US after they improved upon the dutch series and each year of Big Brother is called a SEASON.
This is my first BBUK SEASON. You want to call it a Series, have at it.

:laugh::wavey:
In Britain we don't call them seasons.

Beetlejuice 11-07-2015 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7988583)
[/B]


I actually think yes, because he likely in reality doesn't need the money, however he would like to be the winner of BB as anyone going into the house would.

He knows by now, going against BB brings penalties,he showed he wasn't bothered as to the prize fund with the pizza issue,and the prize fund was far lower at that time than it was last night.

Joel said his bit right off at the start, before anyone had said a word really.I actually give him credit for that,whereas Danny immediately counteracted that stand,and made his case for not only voting but also who to vote out.

Still Joel did not vote.I still say to his credit.
Then again I like him, you don't.

I dare bet had another hm/s said they were not going to vote at all in this, they would probably be termed wonderful for that.

And yet Joel remains on a show that he thinks is morally wrong to have done that to Sam.

Ross. 11-07-2015 12:55 PM
Lmao what does Joel's political views have to do with anything? :shrug:

Beetlejuice 11-07-2015 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ross. (Post 7988932)
Lmao what does Joel's political views have to do with anything? :shrug:
This thread is about him engaging in slimeball political tactics. Doesn't matter if he is Labour or Tory or whatever the hell is. What he did was not about taking a moral stance, it was about being seen to in order to score points and to draw attention to his supposed moral superiority to the others who he has smeared since.

If he has a problem with what was done he should take it to the people who were ultimately responsible for it... The BB production team. And the best way of protesting against them is by walking out of their fixed show. If he did that I would take everything I've said in this thread back and celebrate him for it. But he won't, because he's doing little more than campaigning for his own cause.

vafunghoul 11-07-2015 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7988922)
In Britain we don't call them seasons.
That's ok.
Can I call it a SEASON of BB?
Please? I jest.

For that other guy to pick something so mundane instead of debating the content of my post was quite funny.

Thanks beetlejuice. Don't take my opinions to heart as we'll never agree on Joel. It's just banter. ;)

billy123 11-07-2015 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vafunghoul (Post 7988917)
Season.
Big Brother Season.
Read it again. Big Brother was made world famous in the US after they improved upon the dutch series and each year of Big Brother is called a SEASON.
This is my first BBUK SEASON. You want to call it a Series, have at it.

:laugh::wavey:
:joker: oh dear.
I dont like to stereotype but if i did you would fit the bill. :hehe:
Carry on.

Ross. 11-07-2015 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7988936)
This thread is about him engaging in slimeball political tactics. Doesn't matter if he is Labour or Tory or whatever the hell is. What he did was not about taking a moral stance, it was about being seen to in order to score points and to draw attention to his supposed moral superiority to the others who he has smeared since.
Well then he's going to be a good politician then, isn't he. :fan:

vafunghoul 11-07-2015 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7988944)
:joker: oh dear.
I dont like to stereotype but if i did you would fit the bill. :hehe:
Carry on.
Oh dear? Nice reply. So we have a smarmy elitist poster who hates Americans.
I happen to live in the US but I'm not American.
Enjoy this SEASON of Big Brother UK.


:joker:

billy123 11-07-2015 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vafunghoul (Post 7988963)
Oh dear? Nice reply. So we have a smarmy elitist poster who hates Americans.
I happen to live in the US but I'm not American.
Enjoy this SEASON of Big Brother UK.


:joker:
:joker: Your funny. :idc:


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