I don't profess to be an expert on Islam or any religion so that's fine.
Why don't you enlighten me then?
There has already in the thread been quotes from many holy books and they all have their faults, they all too have those who use their respective faith to promote their own twisted ideology.

It is a bit of a kick in the teeth to Judaism that christians rather dismiss the OT and big up the NT

:laugh: Stirring Git. Me and Liv are fine with it. :laugh:

Kizzy - There are dozens of posts on this -- some of them (too) lengthy from me, on past threads where we all (including you) argued furiously (and it seems, futiley) over these very subjects.

You might consider your post futile I don't see mine that way. I wouldn't say I'd argued furiously over anything.
I have my say as we all do.

Where did I SAY that you shouldn't have your say?????

And I didn't say Your post or my post or anyone's post was futile - I said ARGUING ferociously was futile (if further down the line the facts and figures presented in a post has had so little impact on those involved in the arguing, that the same questions are asked again and the same ignorance professed - hence the; "It seems" in brackets).

Please try to stop misrepresenting everything I say, every time I post because it is seriously starting to depress me.

Please. I WANT to debate and discuss not forever defend myself or argue.

this goes both ways, non muslims can't walk into an area that is majority muslim, at night, because you could be attacked, same thing if a muslim female walked into a working class area that is non muslim and white, the problem is that the muslims in britain, do not integrate, and they do not understand that they are just making life harder for themselves, and they play into the hands of the far right, are leaders have pushed people to the brink of mistrust, and anger, that both ends do not trust each other and that can cause conflict,

You're suggesting I don't know enough on Islam to comment on the thread, and you've suggested you do, I get it.

:laugh: If you like IDC.:cool:

So dumb! Let's beat up a random Muslim couple that sure sorts out Isis doesn't it. I suppose beating up a random white kid here will stop the mass shootings from white kids!