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Sticks 24-03-2016 09:09 AM

So nobody thought to Google the name of the MP or the constituency? As a hint run her name through Google translate and then check how long the parliamentary Easter recess is for. Finally, what date is next Friday?

Oh I almost forgot, next Friday will be Internet Spring Cleaning day :D

MTVN 24-03-2016 09:19 AM

Well played Sticks, you even had arista raging at Mr Cyntaf bringing in this joke of a bill

Kizzy 24-03-2016 09:54 AM

I thought it was a Welsh name! :joker: I thought oh there really is a place called Downton, I thought they made that up, well done Sticks! ;)

user104658 24-03-2016 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8576180)
Its unenforceable. To be able to do as suggested they would have to disable all credit/debit card transactions on a Sunday. So, no paying for food, petrol etc. No withdrawals from atm's etc. Cloud cuckoo land :joker:

The entire prospect is crazy, taking an entire days online trading EVERY WEEK out of the economy would cost billions... I mean... Considering online shopping is higher at weekends than weekdays... It's literally chopping a good 20% off of online turnover for every single company. Quite possibly more.

user104658 24-03-2016 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 8576186)
So nobody thought to Google the name of the MP or the constituency? As a hint run her name through Google translate and then check how long the parliamentary Easter recess is for. Finally, what date is next Friday?

Oh I almost forgot, next Friday will be Internet Spring Cleaning day :D

I'm pretty sure you get bad luck forever if you pull an April fools at any time before April 1st or at any time after noon on the day...

Playing with fire there. You might as well break all of your mirrors and leave all of your shoes on the table right now, it couldn't get any worse.

Sticks 24-03-2016 12:42 PM

Okay there were a number of things that should have tipped some off that things were not as they seemed, but before that, Toy Soldier's point about being early

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8576216)
I'm pretty sure you get bad luck forever if you pull an April fools at any time before April 1st or at any time after noon on the day...

Playing with fire there. You might as well break all of your mirrors and leave all of your shoes on the table right now, it couldn't get any worse.

In my last missive I reference the infamous Internet Spring Cleaning day jape, (If you have not heard of it see here) The only way that one would work on the mark would be to run it a few days early. In my one I did not think it would have worked as well if it was sprung on the actual day.

Now on to the bits that were the less than obvious clues as to the nature of the piece.

First of all, so I don't do all the work here, pull up Google Translate and run Ebrill Cyntaf through it, with detect language on to translate to English. See what you get. In a number of these pieces, that phrase, or similar, is hidden in there somewhere, sometimes as an anagram.

While on the subject of this MP, if you google the name of a real MP, you should at least get their constituency website, or their entry on the main website for their political party. Now I said she was a conservative, so if she had been real you would have got it. Google her name and you will not get anything like that, but you do get some Welsh Language pages, another clue?

Next, the constituency of Downton in Wiltshire. Actually there is such a place, it is actually referred to a Downton Village (See here for it's Wikepedia entry) Downton was a parliamentary constituency but only until 1832 when it was abolished by the Great Reform Act of 1832. Prior to that Downton was seen as a Rotten Borough (Read about it here). Downton today is part of the Salisbury parliamentary constituency, represented by John Glen, a Conservative MP, (So I got that one right about the political party holding the seat :joker:)

Next one, if the marks had been taken in, then they would have travelled to lobby against this bill only to find the place closed next Friday. A quick look at the website for the House of Commons here would show that the House is in recess next Friday!

As for the bill itself? Private members bills are indeed discussed on Fridays, but if you went to the what's on section of the Parliament website here you would find no reference on that date to any commons business

And of course what is the date next Friday? The most obvious clue :dance:

So was any of this real?

Well one thing was, I did indeed sarcastically float this idea to a colleague at work who was going on against Sunday trading, and she did agree with the idea of banning online Sunday trading, I can only assume she did not realise I was being sarcastic. I remember a few years back when we had that ban on taking liquids on to aeroplanes and in a queue at a pizza place I suggested to a guy that as liquids could be soaked into clothing, perhaps, I said sarcastically but with a straight face, that we should all fly naked. His reply was "If that's what it takes"

:eek: There are some people out there who are completely gullible and will swallow anything no matter how ludicrous. Mentioning no names :joker:

So I hope this has taught you something, I am a devious little so and so? Apart from that

Always be sceptical - Always check things out!

So getting back to the original subject of this thread, I come to the position that those of us in Christendom by insisting on these ridiculous Sunday trading regulations have shot ourselves in the foot, and it hardly wins hearts and minds does it if we come across as imposing our beliefs on others. I would also point out, that these restrictions come from the commandment about the Sabbath, but that was actually the last day of the week, Saturday! Sunday is the first day of the week and if you examine the New Testament you will find that of the 10 commandments, only one was never copied into the new covenant, the Sabbath rule.

What those who insist on this "Sabbath" fail to remember is that when gentiles were admitted to the early church most of them would have been slaves, and therefore unlikely to have had special dispensation to take one day off a week.

arista 24-03-2016 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 8576192)
Well played Sticks, you even had arista raging at Mr Cyntaf bringing in this joke of a bill



Shocking

DemolitionRed 24-03-2016 03:21 PM

Damn and I told people at work about this!!

Sticks 24-03-2016 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8576831)
Damn and I told people at work about this!!

quod erat demonstrandum

Or to quote from the Russian, doveryai no proverya

DemolitionRed 24-03-2016 04:23 PM

I think I'll wait till April 1st!

Sticks 24-03-2016 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8576984)
I think I'll wait till April 1st!

Am wondering how many of your colleagues will share this on social media without thinking.

Maybe it could go viral :colour: :elephant:

reece(: 24-03-2016 04:29 PM

My local Tesco is open until 11pm on a Sunday anyway so idc

user104658 24-03-2016 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 8576446)
Okay there were a number of things that should have tipped some off that things were not as they seemed, but before that, Toy Soldier's point about being early



In my last missive I reference the infamous Internet Spring Cleaning day jape, (If you have not heard of it see here) The only way that one would work on the mark would be to run it a few days early. In my one I did not think it would have worked as well if it was sprung on the actual day.

Now on to the bits that were the less than obvious clues as to the nature of the piece.

First of all, so I don't do all the work here, pull up Google Translate and run Ebrill Cyntaf through it, with detect language on to translate to English. See what you get. In a number of these pieces, that phrase, or similar, is hidden in there somewhere, sometimes as an anagram.

While on the subject of this MP, if you google the name of a real MP, you should at least get their constituency website, or their entry on the main website for their political party. Now I said she was a conservative, so if she had been real you would have got it. Google her name and you will not get anything like that, but you do get some Welsh Language pages, another clue?

Next, the constituency of Downton in Wiltshire. Actually there is such a place, it is actually referred to a Downton Village (See here for it's Wikepedia entry) Downton was a parliamentary constituency but only until 1832 when it was abolished by the Great Reform Act of 1832. Prior to that Downton was seen as a Rotten Borough (Read about it here). Downton today is part of the Salisbury parliamentary constituency, represented by John Glen, a Conservative MP, (So I got that one right about the political party holding the seat :joker:)

Next one, if the marks had been taken in, then they would have travelled to lobby against this bill only to find the place closed next Friday. A quick look at the website for the House of Commons here would show that the House is in recess next Friday!

As for the bill itself? Private members bills are indeed discussed on Fridays, but if you went to the what's on section of the Parliament website here you would find no reference on that date to any commons business

And of course what is the date next Friday? The most obvious clue :dance:

So was any of this real?

Well one thing was, I did indeed sarcastically float this idea to a colleague at work who was going on against Sunday trading, and she did agree with the idea of banning online Sunday trading, I can only assume she did not realise I was being sarcastic. I remember a few years back when we had that ban on taking liquids on to aeroplanes and in a queue at a pizza place I suggested to a guy that as liquids could be soaked into clothing, perhaps, I said sarcastically but with a straight face, that we should all fly naked. His reply was "If that's what it takes"

:eek: There are some people out there who are completely gullible and will swallow anything no matter how ludicrous. Mentioning no names :joker:

So I hope this has taught you something, I am a devious little so and so? Apart from that

Always be sceptical - Always check things out!

So getting back to the original subject of this thread, I come to the position that those of us in Christendom by insisting on these ridiculous Sunday trading regulations have shot ourselves in the foot, and it hardly wins hearts and minds does it if we come across as imposing our beliefs on others. I would also point out, that these restrictions come from the commandment about the Sabbath, but that was actually the last day of the week, Saturday! Sunday is the first day of the week and if you examine the New Testament you will find that of the 10 commandments, only one was never copied into the new covenant, the Sabbath rule.

What those who insist on this "Sabbath" fail to remember is that when gentiles were admitted to the early church most of them would have been slaves, and therefore unlikely to have had special dispensation to take one day off a week.

And you would have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for those pesky kids.

DemolitionRed 24-03-2016 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 8576995)
Am wondering how many of your colleagues will share this on social media without thinking.

Maybe it could go viral :colour: :elephant:

:hehe:

Sticks 01-04-2016 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8576831)
Damn and I told people at work about this!!

So are your colleagues all set to go and lobby parliament or have they caught on :whistle:


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