Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

"People will also say, that, anybody who supports Jade Goody today, must be a racist or have a problem with Indian people"

nodish why do you always speak for others when you don't even know if that's how people really feel....those 50,000 complaints were not all from south asians....

shows how ignorant you are, you clearly seem to love jade despite her behaviour in the house....i'm sure you know you're wrong but you just don't want to admit it....I think he should be telling you to get over it......

I don't know where those complaints were from?

An educated guess would tell me that they were from all over the place. Do you agree with that?

The reason that I say that others liked Jade Goody before she came on CBB Jan. Is, because, she was in such demand. I am talking, reality shows, interviews, game shows and also merchandice, fitness video & perfume.

She has made so much and had three websites dedicated to her. Not to mention Myspace.com where some of her fans are hiding right now. You already know the two other Jade Fan members on this forum Mansi.

I would never question your support for a celebrity. It is your right and that is fact.

I looked at that post from that other member. I saw how many of you started on him, saying that you considered him to be a racist.

I know that you enjoy doing this and shall continue to pick holes.

What I do, is, look past these small things and get on with life.

To be a "Realist" is fine. To be a "Racist" is not fine.

I don't just judge Jade Goody from what I see in the house. I don't judge anyone, unless I really understand them.

I understand Jade Goody..

p.s Mansi. You posted this post twice, Whoops!! :thumbs:

I was one of the users that posted on there. and if I see something I disagree with, I shall say so. That is my right.

It is your right to make your opinion known.

I have mine, "Mansi" has her's and that's that!

Forums are like that!! Differences of opinions.

Nodishharmony you're the one who's creating the division...what do you mean by many of you started on him....and secondly I didn't post anything on that thread because like jermaine said you can't reason with stupidity...I don't "enjoy doing all of this", you seem to be enjoying all of it...you were the one clearly supporting him...anyhow I am nobody to tell you what to say and whom to support

My point exactly

I didn't know that you are following Jermaine Jackson's instruction?

Is that the same Jermaine Jackson who went in the other room and did nothing to mediate between the two??

Or was that not shown?

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I am not creating a division. We just don't think alike. Also, I appear to be in Jade's camp and that is not a popular camp at the moment. I am aware of that.

I said, "Many of you started on him", perhaps it was two or three? I can't remember now. It is quite low on my list of priorities.

I did post on that thread, as I know how it feels to be ganged up on, on this forum. I defended this, as it was overscrutinizing again.

I don't see Jade Goody supporters joining in with me, do you?

There are a couple around, but, I think they are hiding behind another topic.

I do not gang up on people. I am not a bully. I post my own opinions and views.

I agree that your own opinions are nice to hear.

It is amazing to see how two forum members, (spacebandit) & (Dr43%er) can cause havoc to a topic which is going so well. I mean, it is easy to go onto Shilpa or Jo on a Jade topic. But, to start attacking a forum member and break rules and get away with it looks like corruption to me. Tonight, they might post 20 nasty posts. WOW that should be productive, NOT!!

I state the facts about Jade Goody and the other girls.

Some are educated opinions and anybody can critisize that.

I welcome critisism..

Jermaine didn't bother to interfere because he is wise, and so he took shilpa to the other room and tried to make her understand not to reason with jade....Jermaine was the only one in the house who tried to mediate the two...the rest were laughing and Cleo and Ian were just there watching....

it's nothing intentional, well from my side atleast....we all seem to oppose your opinions.... you have no "supporters" because nobody likes Jade...that's the truth, you have to learn to deal with it, instead of going around and trying to irritate everyone by posting essays which are based on your assumptions instead of facts....you're just making things worse for Jade

Thanks for telling me, what I already know!! :spin:

Jermaine didn't interfere. Ian & Cleo did watch and do nothing.

Sometimes it is better to stay away, as, if you are neutral, you can get away with pretending to like Jade Goody, when, behind her back, things would be different!

Jade Goody would understand that..

That is when she says, "Your a liar & a fake"

Do you think any good is going to come from the whole Jade/Shilpa/Jo/Danielle scenario nodis?

I won't say the word (Good).

What I would say, is, Big Brother 8 will be very interesting. Any wrong word between a white man or woman against someone of brown or black skinned, will be scrutinized badly.

So is that a no then?

I think the main thing you're not realising nodisharmony, is that it's gone past the racial discrimination stage now. At least, that's now what I'm on about. Whilst I'm not condoning any racist comments that were made on CBB5, you do have a habit to continuously going back to that issue rather than the matter at hand which is general mistreatment, unfairness, bullying and ignorance.

A politician would have to elaborate and waffle.

I shall say (no) and get it over with. :spin2:

Thankyou. Straight to the point is how I like it.

Okay, I shall keep it short and sweet on each point.

(mistreatment) Jade Goody is very flippent to Shilpa and at least three past housemates from other shows too. She doesn't use much tact towards them and is happy to treat them this way.

Does she mean it? or, is she aware of what reality shows want and crave for, plenty of drama! So is she real or fake! That you will have to prove, before drawing opinions on her.
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(unfairness) My god! Unfairness is every single part of this CBB Jan. show in every single way. On this forum too.

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(Bullying) It can look like that? But what is a disagreement or an argument or a heated discussion can be separate from bullying. I hate to label it as that all the time.

I know what bullying is, (first hand), to me, it is the thought of possible violence. or a violent threat. You know what I mean!!

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(Ignorance) Is that another word for (thick), (naive), (stupidity). Isn't Jade Goody known for behaving and being that way? I think she is known for being that way.

That is actually her appeal

Yes I can. Because Jade wasn't thinking about her kids when she was shouting obscenities and threatening to headbutt someone. And if she was that concerned about their safety, why did she jet off to India? It seems that her PR exercise was more important than spending time with her children.

My point exactly.

You would believe anything if it put your precious jade Goody in a good light. But just because you choose to believe something doesn't make it true.

I've already explaied the difference between not complaining and there being nothing to complain about. You choose not to take any notice. Your perogative.


How do you know? Were you there? Do you know what's going on in Jade's head? Actually, why am I asking? You will just come out with some 'smoke and mirrors' answer.

That argument was awful. Not just a little disagreement, but full on abuse. Hardly qualifies as 'said nothing'. Besides which, are you saying that it's fine to say what you want about people as long as they can't hear it?!

Well, that's their problem.

Even you yourself are saying that she probably didn't complain because she didn't want to cause trouble - not because there was nothing to complain about.

Answered in a previous post. Not repeating myself.

Right. Thanks for telling me what makes me bring think something. You don't know how or why anyone on here thinks what they do.

I don't understand what you have written:puzzled:

:puzzled: What's your point?

Anybody who would say such a thing is a racist. Got that?

If only they know it, then how can you make such assumptions about them?

I have already explained this to you in a previous post. Clearly, you choose not to pay attention to what doesn't suit your version of events. That's fine.

I was drawing a comparison. But because it doesn't suit you, you choose to disregard it. Fine.

Those words came out of Jade's mouth. fact or fiction?

She could have - but we have absolutely no reason to suggest that this is so. So stop making things up to suit you.

Yes, I think we all saw that. It's not something to defend.

But everything they said was not in anger was it? Some of it was said while they were perfectly happy.

Sorry for caps, but I DID NOT SAY THAT. I SAID THAT ANYONE OF ANY COLOUR CAN EXPERIENCE RACISM. IF YOU MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I CLEARLY WROTE, THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.

Well you can't but many people can.

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Long reponses mean you are stating facts more clearly than others!! I dont think so. What it generally means is that someone is not able to be succinct in their reponses.

Everything that you post is opinion! or your interpretation of what has been said by the media. We all interpret things in a different way which is where deabte comes from!

I think (see I said think) that Jade has used her stupidity for long enough as an excuse. I dont accept the "it's just the way she is" argument, it has worn way too thin now. That is no excuse for terrible behaviour.