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Marsh. 06-05-2017 10:55 PM

Ok, to play along. Let's sack the interpreters, now where is that money going to go instead?

Brillopad 06-05-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9298559)
Some people just see "Big Numbaz" and don't understand what they actually represent.

A quick google shows that the NHS spends £23,000,000 on translators per year. DAS BIG NUMBAZ! Economy panic!

... ... it's actually 0.0002% of the NHS budget. :joker:.

It's £23,000,000 less being spent on medical care. That would buy a lot of care.

But never mind such small numbaz don't matter when the NHS is in such a state. Let's just beez clever anz quote numbaz instead of thinking about ze extraz care zat money could buy.

MB. 06-05-2017 10:59 PM

I like how Marsh is vehemently fighting for both sides of the argument at the same time here

Marsh. 06-05-2017 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298567)
It's £23,000,000 less being spent on medical care. That would buy a lot of care.

But never mind such small numbaz don't matter when the NHS is in such a state. Let's just beez clever anz quote numbaz instead of thinking about ze extraz care zat money could buy.

No, I asked you to quote numbers because simply saying "XYZ should not happen because it costs money" is not a valid debate.

Everything costs money.

Bringing actual facts and figures into the discussion is obvious.

Marsh. 06-05-2017 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9298568)
I like how Marsh is vehemently fighting for both sides of the argument at the same time here

I'm calling out bulls*t comments, I don't care who made them. :fist:

Cherie 06-05-2017 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298567)
It's £23,000,000 less being spent on medical care. That would buy a lot of care.

But never mind such small numbaz don't matter when the NHS is in such a state. Let's just beez clever anz quote numbaz instead of thinking about ze extraz care zat money could buy.

:joker:

I like how we are so far gone 23,000,000 is peanuts

Brillopad 06-05-2017 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9298566)
Ok, to play along. Let's sack the interpreters, now where is that money going to go instead?

Sick patients!

Cherie 06-05-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298573)
Sick patients!

Not to the hospital shop :worry:

Marsh. 06-05-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298573)
Sick patients!

That's a broad topic there pal.

Are you suggesting we put £ 23, 000, 000 into a sack and have a prize draw for the patients who have beds?

Marsh. 06-05-2017 11:02 PM

Money is spent on NHS vending machines. I am disgusted.

How much money is spent on Quavers that could be spent on cancer research?

Brillopad 06-05-2017 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9298571)
I'm calling out bulls*t comments, I don't care who made them. :fist:

What's bull**** then - as you seem to think you have all the answers. Explain how you know better.

Marsh. 06-05-2017 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298578)
What's bull**** then - as you seem to think you have all the answers. Explain how you know better.

Where have I suggested I have all the answers?

I'm not the one adamantly claiming £23 million is being spent in the wrong place and suggesting we send it to "sick people".

Brillopad 06-05-2017 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9298576)
Money is spent on NHS vending machines. I am disgusted.

How much money is spent on Quavers that could be spent on cancer research?

You seriously comparing quavers and £23,000,000 of precious NHS money wasted on non-mecical care.

Marsh. 06-05-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9298572)
:joker:

I like how we are so far gone 23,000,000 is peanuts

Well, do tell what huge difference making all of the interpreters unemployed (oh nooooo not more job seekers allowance) achieves? Is this 23 million equally spread across the entire NHS out of fairness, you know where it would make absolute sod all difference? :smug:

Brillopad 06-05-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9298580)
Where have I suggested I have all the answers?

I'm not the one adamantly claiming £23 million is being spent in the wrong place and suggesting we send it to "sick people".

So you think spending on interpreters is more important than spending on medical care? Not in my book.

Marsh. 06-05-2017 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298581)
You seriously comparing quavers and £23,000,000 of precious NHS money wasted on non-mecical care.

Well, you add up all of those Quaver bags and you have quite a pile of money. :smug: We might fight the obesity epidemic that is DRAINING our country too.

But, whilst we're at it let's sack the office staff and the grounds keepers and any other "non-medical care" and you might realise what a ridiculous Utopia you have dreamt up.

Brillopad 06-05-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9298582)
Well, do tell what huge difference making all of the interpreters unemployed (oh nooooo not more job seekers allowance) achieves? Is this 23 million equally spread across the entire NHS out of fairness, you know where it would make absolute sod all difference? :smug:

Seriously that is a very silly comment. I'm sure that amount of money could save lives. Even one life saved would be far more worthwhile than interpreters for people who shouldn't need them.

Marsh. 06-05-2017 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298583)
So you think spending on interpreters is more important than spending on medical care? Not in my book.

More important? No.

Just like I don't think the canteen girl's wages are more important than serious medical treatment. But then, neither the canteen girl nor the interpreter are draining the NHS budget from taking care of Betty in bed 2.

user104658 06-05-2017 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9298572)
:joker:

I like how we are so far gone 23,000,000 is peanuts

It's like 30p per person in the UK per year. It is literally less than peanuts.

Marsh. 06-05-2017 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298586)
Seriously that is a very silly comment. I'm sure that amount of money could save lives. Even one life saved would be far more worthwhile than interpreters for people who shouldn't need them.

Yeah, and I'm sure one saved life would be more important than the guy brushing leaves in the car park. But.... nobody's ranting about that.

Brillopad 06-05-2017 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9298585)
Well, you add up all of those Quaver bags and you have quite a pile of money. :smug: We might fight the obesity epidemic that is DRAINING our country too.

But, whilst we're at it let's sack the office staff and the grounds keepers and any other "non-medical care" and you might realise what a ridiculous Utopia you have dreamt up.

This gets sillier by the minute - office staff etc are needed to help provide the care. Lazy people wasting tax payers money are not.

I know more about this than you clearly do so I won't waste my time anymore.

Brillopad 06-05-2017 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9298588)
It's like 30p per person in the UK per year. It is literally less than peanuts.

The total is not peanuts - it would help a lot of people.

Marsh. 06-05-2017 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298591)
This gets sillier by the minute - office staff etc are needed to help provide the care. Lazy people wasting tax payers money are not.

So, out of every penny of the NHS budget (I'm guessing you have scanned over it here) the biggest waste you could find on "non-medical" care is interpreters? Really?

Also, the only way someone cannot be fluent in English (especially when it comes to discussing medical issues and treatment which is a tough thing to do even when Doctor/Patient share a language) is them being "lazy people"? Really?

Oh but, wait...

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298591)
I know more about this than you clearly do so I won't waste my time anymore.

Oh yes. Of course. I forgot...

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298263)
It is very expensive.

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298563)
I work in the NHS and have arranged interpreters.

Well, it's hard to debate these stone cold facts.

But, wait. I work in the NHS and serve chips.

It is very expensive.

Brillopad 06-05-2017 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9298595)
So, out of every penny of the NHS budget (I'm guessing you have scanned over it here) the biggest waste you could find on "non-medical" care is interpreters? Really?

Also, the only way someone cannot be fluent in English (especially when it comes to discussing medical issues and treatment which is a tough thing to do even when Doctor/Patient share a language) is them being "lazy people"? Really?

Oh but, wait...



Oh yes. Of course. I forgot...





Well, it's hard to debate these stone cold facts.

But, wait. I work in the NHS and serve chips.

It is very expensive.

I serve chips do l. Why did I waste my time at uni I wonder. :joker:

Marsh. 06-05-2017 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9298602)
I serve chips do l. Why did I waste my time at uni I wonder. :joker:

No.

I serve chips. :hmph: How else do you think I know so much about how much of the NHS budget is wasted on Quavers? :suspect:


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