So Raph has his 15 mins of fame, well done to him, but if he comes back, he will be a forum member and nothing more. If people want to treat him differently because he has been on TV, they need to get out more :laugh:

Can we have an eat my shorts smiley please.

To be honest raph should be thankfull some forum members will still speak to him.

"Snakeboy" is hardly "nasty nick" though is it?

I dont know anyone who talks to him like he's 5 (besides the condescending haters but I doubt you're referring to them) and people who act like "love struck teenagers" let them be excited their friend is in the show and let them have a crush on who is a cute guy. It's harmless, and while you may argue the nicknames are, Raph doesn't take lightly to being called two-faced so I don't think he'll appreciate "snakeboy". Yes we're allowed to say whatever we like about him and he shouldn't have a double standard about him, but he'll be coming back to see this all and when it goes too far it's unfair (on a tangent not related to snakeboy exactly). The only people Ive seen this happen to is Issy weeks ago and Chanelle constantly (by the same people who do it to Raph) and it mustn't be nice to come back to a forum you loved to find yourself being one of the only people victim to really obscene comments, and the only others that did get similar were your best friends in the house

He voted sue over issy...hardly best friend material...just sayin..

Well said indeed.

And I disagreed with his actions for that. But his reason for doing so was because he believed Issy would be safe and knew Sue wouldn't be. Sue's only friend besides Raph was Simone and she couldn't participate in this task - Issy had Andrew (and the sisters but they'd obviously vote for each other).

While I think it was obvious Andrew would vote for Charlotte, Issy had a better chance of being saved than Sue. I can't say if it was a strategic move or not but he did that to her face and not once has nominated her or badmouthed her.

Have you seen the latest sleeping arrangements..2 in the room..they couldnt be further apart.

They've literally always slept in those beds why change for a couple days

I know, it gets more petty by the minute.

I'd want to stay in a bed I'd been in for weeks rather than change now too.

Anyone who goes on the show exposes themselves...some will love them...others will dislike them. Some will only see the good and some will only see the bad. One of his biggest fans on here called Joe a snake...it's just people's opinion. Nobody likes to be called two faced ffs...
If you want to put yourself on a show like this then you have to be prepared to take the good and the bad. Raph sees it year in and year out on this forum..when a housemate is adored by some and disliked by others. If he is the intellectual person he says he is then he won't be surprised...and if Snakeboy is the worse thing he is called I'm sure he will just take it on the chin and accept that that's someone's opinion.
...and if you don't like negative opinion then don't go on BB...and don't expect to come back on here and have everyone loving you...and I'm sure Raph wouldn't expect that at all.

I've said time and time again that calling him two-faced is a valid criticism - I'm saying that if he gets upset by that, he'd get upset by the way worse comments on here.
Snakeboy isn't the worst thing he's called though, is he?? He's being called obscenities while virtually no one else is (besides his friends). "He's seen the show!! He's seen the comments people get!! He should be prepared!!" Yes, he will be prepared, and he'll accept all criticisms, but how will he feel when his identity; his sexuality, his race, is being commented on? Like I'm fine with people saying he's a "trash HM" and whatever (I disagree but that's the beauty of opinions!!) But people clearly make it personal sometimes and I've never seen anyone but him and his friends get that sort of treatment.
Ironically, the people that make those comments insist there is a rule against baiting. But let's not forget some of his friends are on here. Now I can't speak on their behalf but surely it's baiting to them when members make clearly personal remarks towards Raph? Idk I just wouldn't like it if a close friend of mine was being called ***** and whatever with sly digs regarding his race and sexuality are questioned and made a topic about when it's not relevant. These comments never really have context (as I say, not talking about snakeboy - while immature, at least there's reasoning. I mean when the things he is called are censored) and just come out of nowhere sometimes

((Subsitute Issy/Chanelle/anyone else who gets really vile comments in. The topic at hand here is Raph and this issue is more relevant due to his membership)

Of course, he may be fine with the really obscene comments. Maybe I'm just projecting and putting myself in his shoes. Then again, I imagine a lot of his haters do the same :hehe:

There's a fine line when someone is deliberately causing offence.

Can't tell if this is about me, but if I'm too 'pc', so be it. I've got a voice and morals, I'll use them to speak out. How are you using your voice? To complain that people are progressive? Ban me if I think the things people say are disgusting :umm2:

why the concern about insulting Don Raph, head of the forum's most powerful family of shadowy moderators? If anything there should be a special prosecutor appointed to investigate Raph's mysterious moles and suspicious holes. It's the deep state!

I prefer the story about Raph and Channel's 18 vaginas but this works too

He might come back on here to get his ego massaged but if that aint happening, he is so gone. I cant see him staying more than 24 hrs and as soon as he reads a bad post, he will SLITHER AWAY like is his personality. he cant stand criticism and needs to be loved. He is way too fragile to take criticism and there is plenty on here, so he wont stay. In fact i think he might come back, not post, read his critics and then decided not to engage.

Shows that you really aren't very perceptive at all. He doesn't even come across like that on BB let alone on this Forum. You're just projecting your own negativity and bitterness onto your false perception of him.

Just makes you sound like someone who looks for the worst in people where it doesn't even exist.

Very sad. :pat:

If I need analyzing I wont be coming to you, thats for sure. your bias towards people that dont agree with your point of view is pretty disturbing. Raph has his haters like anyone else and the fawning on here is a direct result of his membership with the forum. He has been called snake boy by many, so please dont single out me and stop with the insults, its pathetic.

I think thats a little unfair Sam that you are assuming that people like him for being a member, the flip side of that could also be said to be true....people being edgy and slating him because of his time on here.

People have formed their opinions of him from time in there....you don't like him because of how he's been in the house and so onthat basis you must concede that others do like him because of his time in the house.

I've not spoken to him much on here, I have known of his presence and that's about it. I've enjoyed w watching him in the house, there have been things I've nit liked and things I have. He is not my winner but I would be pleased for him if he wins.

I've said that I find the name calling ridiculous inthe past to all housemates andi stand by that.

You constantly criticize people and make nasty comments but as soon as anything comes back in your direction you act all hard done-by and claim your being victimized. So delicate. Now THAT is ''pathetic'', really!

You never stop making nasty comments about Raph being ''way too fragile to take criticism'' etc. etc. but i've never seen proof of that on BB and i've definitely never seen him regularly threatening to report people because he's ''way too fragile to take criticism''. Talk about hypocritical.:laugh:

I can't begin to imagine how absolutely shook you'll be when Raph's actually back here to defend himself when you're bitching about him. But then you won't be allowed to get away with it then will you. :idc:

Jealousy of what ? Oh please :bored:

I think this post shows you virtually know nothing as to him at all.

You make comments about others analysing you yet you want to get away with gross misrepresentation of someone else.

Raph at present is a BB housemate,he is also a fellow member.
All the tripe you spout off about him therefore, since there are members here who have, and very often at times have interacted with him.
Know your presentation of him is wrong.

They aren't going to sit back and let you flow with your unnecessarily nasty take on him,and not then set the record straight.

You know,he is a member,you state above he is too fragile, he will read criticism,then slither off,I see why you emphasise that wording just to add to your nastiness towards him.

Even if you were in any way right,how horrible to deliberately and purposely make insulting critical and nasty comments,you know would really hurt someone just because they're on BB.
Hoping too they will get to read it all too.

Or you may have a gripe with Raph for some reason,so are at present able to project that spite, while he's not here able to respond himself by being on BB.
Well,I make no apology whatsoever for trying to defend him or trying to put right how I maybe can,the grossly misrepresented nasty view you put forward as to Raph.

It's totally unnecessary in my view to relay such nastiness.

Its been pathetic Rusti, Ive had to sit with a bucket on my desk