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Alf 02-11-2017 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9679183)
Who are the white lefties?

LT says no one's offended, now it's the white lefts fault. :joker:

The political establishment, the media establishment and the academia establishment.

Marsh. 02-11-2017 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679193)
The political establishment, the media establishment and the academia establishment.

And they have done what in response to David's costume?

Alf 02-11-2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9679198)
And they have done what in response to David's costume?

How dare conversation evolve? You should speak about what you're told too or be silenced.

Marsh. 02-11-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679204)
How dare conversation evolve? You should speak about what you're told too or be silenced.

Who's silencing you? I just asked you a question? If you're uncomfortable explaining your point maybe discussion forums aren't for you? :unsure:

Alf 02-11-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9679205)
Who's silencing you? I just asked you a question? If you're uncomfortable explaining your point maybe discussion forums aren't for you? :unsure:

I was taking about the bigger picture and not this nothing story about Walliams, and that was quite obvious to see, so why ask that question?

Marsh. 02-11-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679208)
I was taking about the bigger picture and not this nothing story about Walliams, and that was quite obvious to see, so why ask that question?

Well, it must in someway relate to the topic, maybe not Walliams himself but the actual topic itself otherwise it's not a natural evolution of the conversation is it?

I'm asking the question because you still haven't answered it.

Alf 02-11-2017 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9679210)
Well, it must in someway relate to the topic, maybe not Walliams himself but the actual topic itself otherwise it's not a natural evolution of the conversation is it?

I'm asking the question because you still haven't answered it.

Ok, I said media establishment are these White lefties to your original question, who has this witch hunt on Williams come from? the media. So I hope that answers your second question.

T* 02-11-2017 11:07 PM

I mean it’s not like it’s anything new from him, he’s always done stuff like this throughout his career and Little Britain etc.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...v_1782801c.jpg
Not that it excuses it but it doesn’t feel overly offensive because it’s just David Walliams all over

Marsh. 02-11-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679220)
Ok, I said media establishment are these White lefties to your original question, who has this witch hunt on Williams come from? the media. So I hope that answers your second question.

Can you show us the witch hunt?

The only backlash he's had was from other twitter users. Are they all white lefties too?

Alf 02-11-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by T* (Post 9679221)
I mean it’s not like it’s anything new from him, he’s always done stuff like this throughout his career and Little Britain etc.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...v_1782801c.jpg

Yeah, isn't comedy horrible? I hate laughing too, why can't we all just be miserable?

Marsh. 02-11-2017 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by T* (Post 9679221)
I mean it’s not like it’s anything new from him, he’s always done stuff like this throughout his career and Little Britain etc.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...v_1782801c.jpg
Not that it excuses it but it doesn’t feel overly offensive because it’s just David Walliams all over

That's like saying "Oh, that serial killer's found another victim, but this one doesn't feel too much of a problem, it's just him all over". :hee:

Marsh. 02-11-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679225)
Yeah, isn't comedy horrible? I hate laughing too, why can't we all just be miserable?

It would've been just as funny with actual Japanese actors playing the sketch.

Alf 02-11-2017 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9679224)
Can you show us the witch hunt?

The only backlash he's had was from other twitter users. Are they all white lefties too?

You think Jack Dorsey is not media establishment?

Alf 02-11-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9679229)
It would've been just as funny with actual Japanese actors playing the sketch.

But Walliams and Lucas play all the roles in their sketches, why change for this sketch?

Marsh. 02-11-2017 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679231)
You think Jack Dorsey is not media establishment?

And Jack Dorsey has exactly what to do with @Mary215 tweeting her disgust at Walliams' costume?

Marsh. 02-11-2017 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679232)
But Walliams and Lucas play all the roles in their sketches, why change for this sketch?

If they want to play all roles, why write Japanese characters?

T* 02-11-2017 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9679227)
That's like saying "Oh, that serial killer's found another victim, but this one doesn't feel too much of a problem, it's just him all over". :hee:

I didnt say it wasn’t a problem though, I meant that it just doesn’t feel or look like a problem to some people bc they’re just accustomed to him doing that. Does the problem still remain? Yes. Is it something I’m really going to lose sleep over? No.

Alf 02-11-2017 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9679233)
And Jack Dorsey has exactly what to do with @Mary215 tweeting her disgust at Walliams' costume?

She uses his platform. And has he's proved, he has the power to what goes out on there.

And this story also made the papers so let's not pretend this is just a twitter thing.

Alf 02-11-2017 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9679234)
If they want to play all roles, why write Japanese characters?

Why not? why exclude Japanese or any people from being part of the joke?

Marsh. 02-11-2017 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679237)
And this story also made the papers so let's not pretend this is just a twitter thing.

Most of the articles are about the "twitter thing". Sad as it sounds, they actually create articles built around what someone has tweeted.

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679237)
She uses his platform. And has he's proved, he has the power to what goes out on there.

Sorry, I must've missed the part where he personally approves tweets and opinions. He must be so busy.

Marsh. 02-11-2017 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679238)
Why not? why exclude Japanese or any people from being part of the joke?

I never suggested excluding them. I suggested giving some nice Japanese actors the work.

It would be like a director handing the role of "black man" to a white guy in makeup. Why not just hire a black actor?

Kizzy 03-11-2017 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9678465)
Clearly. As it's only me to have felt there was a problem with it.

It's wilful ignorance to say that exaggerated eye make-up is not used as a gross stereotype for Asian people. Especially coming from the likes of David Walliams who's literally made a career out of them in Little Britain and other sketch shows.

Once again it is your supposition this was a slight on all Asians, anyone with a modicum of perspective can see it was purely satirical.

Marsh. 03-11-2017 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9679840)
Once again it is your supposition this was a slight on all Asians, anyone with a modicum of perspective can see it was purely satirical.

Maybe you're misunderstanding, I haven't suggested Walliams is purposely attempting to offend asians.

That doesn't make it any less problematic all the same.

Kizzy 03-11-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9679858)
Maybe you're misunderstanding, I haven't suggested Walliams is purposely attempting to offend asians.

That doesn't make it any less problematic all the same.

Then where is your issue?... There was no intent and you have nothing to base your suspicions that it may or may not offend Asians.

Is this an example of the PC gone mad culture I hear so much about,someone becoming offended over nothing on behalf of others?

It sounds suspiciously like it.

Marsh. 04-11-2017 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9679895)
Then where is your issue?... There was no intent and you have nothing to base your suspicions that it may or may not offend Asians.

Is this an example of the PC gone mad culture I hear so much about,someone becoming offended over nothing on behalf of others?

It sounds suspiciously like it.

What's my issue?

Read the thread.

It's like Emily Parr in BB, she didn't intend any offence at all but it didn't change the fact that what she said was completely inappropriate and offensive on a few levels.


If you find the likes of blackface and yellowface "nothing" that's your business but that doesn't make my viewpoint any less valid.


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