Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9792442)

Personal preference is fine.

Using that personal preference to say "I'm doing what's right!" is something else.

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 9792835)

More and more people are going veggie and its becoming less aline, the meat and dairy industry have had a sight decrease in profit, companies are now investing more into plant based alternative. I believe a difference is being made its just not gonna happen overnight.


Why are humans are entitled to enslave, abuse and slaughter other being? What gives us that right? Because we're smarter?

The way we get meat is not only unnatural its also heartless and immoral. People need to realise that when they choose to buy meat they're supporting the suffering that farm animals are put through and they're supporting the damage to the environment the meat and dairy industry is causing.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9791784)

You can always tell a vegetarian, Jess. They're the ones who can't get the lid off the pickle jar.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 9792896)

Put a lid on it Livia

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 9792030)

Theres not as much demand for meet and dairy because they're not having it as much as usual, if everybody in Britain decided to only eat meet once a day the meet industry would be shook. Its all about little changes that make a big difference.

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 9792030)

Theres not as much demand for meet and dairy because they're not having it as much as usual, if everybody in Britain decided to only eat meet once a day the meet industry would be shook. Its all about little changes that make a big difference.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9792888)

No because that's nature. The food chain. :hee:

Some of the methods might have changed but meat eating itself is perfectly natural.

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9792959)

I mean, sure. But that will effectively end the planet in a decade or less. Imagine how many hundred extra factories we'd need in Britain to make that processed pretend stuff.

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9793094)

Meat, hunny, MEAT

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 9793200)

I can’t imagine that would do a better job at ending the planet than the meat and dairy industry.

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9793215)

65million people would need up to three factory-made meals a day, how does that sound better for the environment haha.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9793218)

A lot of people who work in lots of places are psychologically damaged.

Usually it's to do with people doing jobs they're no good at. But you get that in most industries.

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 9793237)

Ah yes the disproportionate cases of PTSD in the office place!

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 9793233)

It is possible to be vegetarian or vegan without only eating factory made meals lol. Vegetables? carbs? I barely ever eat processed food. Eating meat 3 times a day every day is a fairly recent thing you have to look no further than to when our grand parents were children most people had meat once day if that. they weren't swamped with quorn factories then I'm sure it would be possible to return to eating like that without causing that.

With the amount of fresh water needed to produce mean, the amount of land and the amount CO2 it produces, I believe it would be very hard to cause anywhere near as much damage let alone more .

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 9793235)

You might think it's natural to eat meat because you were raised on that idea, but not everything that's natural is the right way. Also, we are able to rationalise doing less harm and being less cruel. None can be 100% cruelty free in this day and age, but at least we can make a little bit of effort to do what we're able to. Right now, it's not convenient for me to stop eating animals, but I'm able to and that makes a difference to me and my conscience, as well as all of the animals I'm not going to eat. Am I wrong for this?

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 9793235)

You might think it's natural to eat meat because you were raised on that idea, but not everything that's natural is the right way.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9793241)

Who mentioned offices?

There are all kinds of unpleasant jobs that take a big toll on people. Some are suited and some aren't.

I just think your idealised vegetarian world is just that, idealised. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9793246)

Yeh, me, my parents, and their ancestors for the last 2 and a half million years before that were brought up on this idea.

(you are completely entitled to be veggie, obviously. It just wouldnt benefit the world if everybody was, actually it would be a complete hinderance to Earth imo)

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 9793250)

(I don't think the whole world should be vegetarian but we need to cut down on meat consumption and do something about the unethical practices of the meat industry thats all I've been trying to say in this thread.)

Originally Posted by ginkgo (Post 9793293)

Imo pigs and cows are on par with small children, not a fan of speciesist killing of them. And about the natural cycle thing i think we have gone past it as a species and I wouldnt think its fair enough if another 'more advanced' alien species would come here and force us to cages to feed and breed because that's just natural domination cycle