Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9832756)

If their views include the removal of basic rights of a group of people then yes.

If my family (some of whom live in the US) started supporting Trump I would distance myself. Not before doing my best to convince them otherwise.

Originally Posted by hazyjo (Post 9832754)

Loved what Amanda said. Don't see any problem with it. ShaneJ needs to stop forcing his opinions down people's throats and expecting people to react or back him. Amanda loves Ann for who she is, not what she believes in. She made that very clear. And Ann is entitled to those beliefs. So what. She does not have to agree to gay marriage. They didn't arrest/imprison everyone who opposed it when the vote went out y'know!

She is a staunch catholic - and I imagine most of her opinions come from the church. They have opposed abortion and gay marriage. Who the f' are we to tell them they can't believe what they choose to believe. (For the record, yes, I do think they're wrong - but why are my views superior to theirs?) I respect what others want/choose to believe. Gay anything - let alone marriage - was illegal in Ann's day. In fact, it was illegal in my bloody day (in Scotland - until 1980!!! Nineteen effin' eighty! The '80s feels like yesterday to me!). I don't believe it makes Ann homophobic.

Amanda to win. It's refreshing.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9832779)

Okay I'm done, you would disown your family for their political views, yet you want full acceptance for yours :facepalm:

Originally Posted by hazyjo (Post 9832784)

Wasn't talking about civil rights - was talking about 'textbook on homophobia'.

In what way did Ann try to remove the basic human rights of a person based on their sexuality? By not approving gay marriage? Why is she not entitled to believe that? Like I said - a lot of her reasoning is because of her religion, and the fact those who opposed it have NOT all been jailed.

As for disowning family because they share different (MAJORITY actually I hasten to add!) views to you, well, that's your prerogative. Sounds very controlling and like a dictatorship to me though! Wasn't that how Hitler started...?

Originally Posted by hazyjo (Post 9832784)

Wasn't talking about civil rights - was talking about 'textbook on homophobia'.

In what way did Ann try to remove the basic human rights of a person based on their sexuality? By not approving gay marriage? Why is she not entitled to believe that? Like I said - a lot of her reasoning is because of her religion, and the fact those who opposed it have NOT all been jailed.

As for disowning family because they share different (MAJORITY actually I hasten to add!) views to you, well, that's your prerogative. Sounds very controlling and like a dictatorship to me though! Wasn't that how Hitler started...?

Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9832785)

Sounds about right yeah. :blush:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9832789)

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makes no sense whatsever

Originally Posted by hazyjo (Post 9832800)

Was in response to the Trump comment. What is it you're confused about.

I don't see how someone can say 'you have to have the same views as me or I'll disown you'. Trump was voted in by a majority.

It's like the people on FB who say 'if you didn't vote for Corbyn, I'm deleting you off my FB friends list'.

Not exactly democratic, is it. Sounds very much like a dictatorship to me.

Originally Posted by hazyjo (Post 9832800)

Was in response to the Trump comment. What is it you're confused about.

I don't see how someone can say 'you have to have the same views as me or I'll disown you'. Trump was voted in by a majority.

It's like the people on FB who say 'if you didn't vote for Corbyn, I'm deleting you off my FB friends list'.

Not exactly democratic, is it. Sounds very much like a dictatorship to me.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9832802)

I mean luvjustins views made no sense at all :laugh:

Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9832806)

That’s is nothing like a dictorership. Literally nothing.

It’s just people saying I don’t want to associate myself with people with very strongly different views than myself.

Originally Posted by hazyjo (Post 9832810)

Err, okay lol. I think you just hung yourself mate.

Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9832815)

Please explain to me exactly how I did that.

Try to be articulate.

Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9832815)

Please explain to me exactly how I did that.

Try to be articulate.

Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9832806)

That’s is nothing like a dictorership. Literally nothing.

It’s just people saying I don’t want to associate myself with people with very strongly different views than myself.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9832835)

I do think it's people like yourself that do the gay community a great dis service.Sorry but you are too aggressive and closeminded,you are telling people what they should think and do,it will never work,you are dictating.

Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9832836)

It works. It’s the only thing that does.

Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9832836)

It works. It’s the only thing that does.

Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9832788)

Her religion should have had nothing to do with her political stance. And if it did she should never have been in politics.

And in the extreme surcumstance thst my family would support someone like Trump then i think as a gay man I’d have every right to disown them.

Originally Posted by ethanjames (Post 9833309)

look however you say it or phrase it ann is homophobic and voted against lgbt right. if she wasn't homophobic she wouldn't vote against it and someone who is a gay person (or someone who cares about people) being against civil rights is bullcrap and more than an opinion. shane j is right. simple as

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9833313)

So I'll ask my question again.

What do you want them to do with Ann. We all know how offended everyone is, but how do they want to ease that offence? Hang her? Eject her? Tar and bloody feather her? What?