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Oliver_W 15-02-2019 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10445465)
If it's dangerous to the UK to let her back in, is it not dangerous to the country she's in currently to leave her there?

A country that has far fewer resources available to monitor her...

...a country that she isn't from.

She's not exactly gonna be a danger to an islamic state is she. Whereas she actively hates the UK.

Glenn. 15-02-2019 02:46 PM

Let her have the kid and we’ll have that back.

Let’s be real in this idiotic country she’ll end up on our streets unsupervised and spreading hatred.

Niamh. 15-02-2019 02:53 PM

UK shuts the door on runaway Isis schoolgirl who wants to come home to give birth
The Home Secretary has warned he ‘will not hesitate’ in shutting the door on a pregnant schoolgirl who ran away to join Isis. Sajid Javid said those who left the UK to join Isis were ‘full of hate for our country’, and should be prepared to be prosecuted if they do return home. Speaking to The Times, he said: ‘My message is clear – if you have supported terrorist organisations abroad I will not hesitate to prevent your return.

‘If you do manage to return you should be ready to be questioned, investigated and potentially prosecuted.’ Shamima Begum, 19, is heavily pregnant and has begged to be allowed to return to Britain to give birth. She married a Dutch convert, Yago Riedijk, 27, within 10 days of arriving in Syria after reportedly applied for a husband who ‘spoke English between the ages of 20-25’. Speaking from a refugee camp in northern Syria, she said her two other children were dead and she wanted to ‘do anything required just to be able to come home and live quietly’ with her third child. If she does return, she will face an investigation to establish if she has committed any criminal offenses and to evaluate if she poses a threat. The Home Office said it does not comment on individual cases, although anyone who returns to the UK after travelling to Isis territory faces criminal investigation and stricter laws are now in place.


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/15/uk-sh...nY?ito=cbshare

Niamh. 15-02-2019 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10445290)
She is British at the moment. But any minute now she will be stateless and it is perfectly within our rights to get rid. She's useless to us, she has no information to share. And when is someone going to care even a little bit about all those severed heads that did not faze her.

Legally, we do not have to take her back. And I hope we won't. The resources that would be wasted on her could be used more fruitfully somewhere else.

Former independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, Lord Carlile, told the BBC that if Begum has not gained a second citizenship of another country she will have to be allowed back to her homeland because under international law it is not possible for a person to be made ‘stateless’.


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/15/uk-sh...nY?ito=cbshare

arista 15-02-2019 03:09 PM

[If you do manage to return you should be ready to be questioned, investigated and potentially prosecuted.’ Shamima Begum, 19, ]

Yes Nothing has Changed

arista 15-02-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10445526)
Let her have the kid and we’ll have that back.

Let’s be real in this idiotic country she’ll end up on our streets unsupervised and spreading hatred.



No she does not want the baby born in Syria.
She demands it is born in London.

Glenn. 15-02-2019 03:17 PM

Tough **** lol.

Kazanne 15-02-2019 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10445540)
No she does not want the baby born in Syria.
She demands it is born in London.

She can demand all she likes, Britain needs to keep it's word on this,maybe the children and wives of those murdered by her husband and the like could demand that she stays where she belongs in hell.

arista 15-02-2019 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10445546)
She can demand all she likes, Britain needs to keep it's word on this,maybe the children and wives of those murdered by her husband and the like could demand that she stays where she belongs in hell.


Yes she
is not going into that dark side
She claims just to be - just the wife
who lost 2 babies , already, due to no food.

Beso 15-02-2019 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10445514)
'Used to' being the operative words ,we don't anymore and have not for a long time

she can go to hell as far as i'm concerned.

Sounds like she's already there m8.

Beso 15-02-2019 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10445287)
All of us? My family didn't make a penny from the Empire, and to drag that up is budding the waters of this case. The part of my family that was here during the time of Empire was living in squalor, so excuse me Parm, if I don't weep and wring my hands for this girl.

Her baby's father is Dutch. Maybe they will take her. We have no obligation to take her back. And I hope we don't,

You don't need excused for your opinions, imo.


And neither do I...I can't help how I feel about this and I am a little surprised at myself actually...but I can't get past the fact I see her a s groomed child rather than a dangerous terrorist type.

AnnieK 15-02-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10445566)
Sounds like she's already there m8.

Her choice though to be fair

Beso 15-02-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10445570)
Her choice though to be fair

And it's her choice to come back now:shrug:

AnnieK 15-02-2019 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10445573)
And it's her choice to come back now:shrug:

For me she can come back as I have said before, but she got herself there, she can get herself back. Wouldn't risk our guys getting her out to be honest. The ones she has been actively supporting the murder of. Get back on British soil and face the consequences of her actions.

thesheriff443 15-02-2019 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10445520)
What a bizarre point to make and at the end of the day you're still basically fine with saying that you're fine with children dying because you're demonising them before they're even born and that's ****ed up, 'Giving birth to more children to kill UK citizens...'. An utterly ****ed up point of view and one that is devoid of empathy.

Your last point about starvation comes across as hollow and questionable, are you saying you're only empathetic enough to sympathise with one or the other? You can't sympathise with both? You may be limited in your ability to empathise but I won't ever demonise a child before it's born just so I don't have to feel empathy for the fact it's fated to a horrible life and a worse death.

Get off your high horse dezzy, my point of view is no more fcuked up as yours.

When the government bomb Isis strong holds there is a chance of so called civilian casualties, I don’t care if her and her baby gets killed as they are the enemy. That’s what happens in a war.

Cherie 15-02-2019 04:36 PM

The government should be concentrating on bringing home Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe before even considering this one


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...e-faces-extra/

Kazanne 15-02-2019 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10445552)
Yes she
is not going into that dark side
She claims just to be - just the wife
who lost 2 babies , already, due to no food.

I heard they died in air strikes, so not sure I would believe a word she said anyway.

arista 15-02-2019 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10445595)
I heard they died in air strikes, so not sure I would believe a word she said anyway.


Yes she is being Sly.

Amy Jade 15-02-2019 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10445593)
The government should be concentrating on bringing home Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe before even considering this one


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...e-faces-extra/

I agree. Priorities the lady who deserves help first.

arista 15-02-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10445593)
The government should be concentrating on bringing home Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe before even considering this one


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...e-faces-extra/


Yes Iran wants a debt paid
from many years ago.
Then she can go home

Lakey 15-02-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10444311)
The thing that worries me is that she shows no remorse. No return for terrorist.

I don’t believe she should ever be allowed back. She and is a danger to all of us and our country should seek to protect the majority of citizens over the minority.

Lakey 15-02-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10445573)
And it's her choice to come back now:shrug:

It’s not her choice it’s Britain’s.

Beso 15-02-2019 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10445576)
For me she can come back as I have said before, but she got herself there, she can get herself back. Wouldn't risk our guys getting her out to be honest. The ones she has been actively supporting the murder of. Get back on British soil and face the consequences of her actions.

I agree with that.

Beso 15-02-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakey (Post 10445604)
It’s not her choice it’s Britain’s.

Can you tell that to all the ****ers sneeking in please.

chuff me dizzy 15-02-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10445540)
No she does not want the baby born in Syria.
She demands it is born in London.

She had 2 in Syria, both starved to death


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