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Ammi 14-09-2019 07:14 AM
...this is exactly why Jesy did this...to get people talking and thinking in this way...she really is an amazing young lady...:lovedup:...

James 14-09-2019 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10678148)
... not always living up to the standards being set for others isn’t an online thing though, it’s quite a common human characteristic...in fact it’s inherent in all of us to one degree or another...we scream hypocrite at others, while adjusting our own hypocrisies to fit our judgements, we are all hypocrites...but own behaviour will always or often feel a justification...humans have always done this...how Jesy was targeted and attacked though, is an entirely different thing...all of her beauty has been stripped from her ...(...in her own mind..)...because the voices telling her she’s beautiful have been drowned out by those telling her something quite cruelly different...words have always carried much weight and responsibility...and hypocrisy has always been a thing...
It's easier to be a hypocrite online though, because of selective responses to things.

Cherie 14-09-2019 10:04 AM
The most recent example that stands out for me is the suicide of two LI contestants one not too long before the recent series aired, and everyone agreed there should be more aftercare, but aftercare is only required because people are vicious, and then after Jordan became a hate figure, videos of him as Shrek appeared, mocking his appearance and people found that funny and didn't appear to get the correlation that there is only so much that aftercare can help with, we have to take personal responsibility for our own actions, not pass it off to ITV or whoever

Kazanne 14-09-2019 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10678205)
The most recent example that stands out for me is the suicide of two LI contestants one not too long before the recent series aired, and everyone agreed there should be more aftercare, but aftercare is only required because people are vicious, and then after Jordan became a hate figure, videos of him as Shrek appeared, mocking his appearance and people found that funny and didn't appear to get the correlation that there is only so much that aftercare can help with, we have to take personal responsibility for our own actions, not pass it off to ITV or whoever
:clap1::clap1:voice of reason again Cherie.

DouglasS 14-09-2019 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10678205)
The most recent example that stands out for me is the suicide of two LI contestants one not too long before the recent series aired, and everyone agreed there should be more aftercare, but aftercare is only required because people are vicious, and then after Jordan became a hate figure, videos of him as Shrek appeared, mocking his appearance and people found that funny and didn't appear to get the correlation that there is only so much that aftercare can help with, we have to take personal responsibility for our own actions, not pass it off to ITV or whoever
:clap1:

Like I said hopefully some people who watched the documentary due to being little mix fans might now learn and grow from it.

You can have opinions but it’s the nasty personal comments, like those that happened to Jordan here and on Twitter as you said, as well as amongst some of the other men on love Island that is not acceptable, hopefully people will change after watching the impact it can have on people (who we don’t even know we just see an edit or newspaper articles..)

Beso 14-09-2019 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10678205)
The most recent example that stands out for me is the suicide of two LI contestants one not too long before the recent series aired, and everyone agreed there should be more aftercare, but aftercare is only required because people are vicious, and then after Jordan became a hate figure, videos of him as Shrek appeared, mocking his appearance and people found that funny and didn't appear to get the correlation that there is only so much that aftercare can help with, we have to take personal responsibility for our own actions, not pass it off to ITV or whoever


I agree, beforecare should be ramped up to the max though...these people need to understand that even though they love themselves so much....not everyone will, and you got to be ready for the crushing feeling of nobody wanting you to become famous after the show

Beso 14-09-2019 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10678148)
... not always living up to the standards being set for others isn’t an online thing though, it’s quite a common human characteristic...in fact it’s inherent in all of us to one degree or another...we scream hypocrite at others, while adjusting our own hypocrisies to fit our judgements, we are all hypocrites...but own behaviour will always or often feel a justification...humans have always done this...how Jesy was targeted and attacked though, is an entirely different thing...all of her beauty has been stripped from her ...(...in her own mind..)...because the voices telling her she’s beautiful have been drowned out by those telling her something quite cruelly different...words have always carried much weight and responsibility...and hypocrisy has always been a thing...

Well said Ammi. .:blush:

rusticgal 14-09-2019 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10678205)
The most recent example that stands out for me is the suicide of two LI contestants one not too long before the recent series aired, and everyone agreed there should be more aftercare, but aftercare is only required because people are vicious, and then after Jordan became a hate figure, videos of him as Shrek appeared, mocking his appearance and people found that funny and didn't appear to get the correlation that there is only so much that aftercare can help with, we have to take personal responsibility for our own actions, not pass it off to ITV or whoever
Absolutely right Cherie....we are all responsible for what we say and do...:clap1:

Beso 14-09-2019 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10678402)
Absolutely right Cherie....we are all responsible for what we say and do...:clap1:
We are indeed....but in these cases I think people should be held resonsible in some way for the hurt they have caused someone in a deliberately nasty way, they should be punished and banned completely from the Internet merely for deliberately trying to hurt someone whilst remaining faceless.

Mitchell 15-09-2019 01:56 AM
I think documentaries like this one are so incredibly important, so much support for her for doing it


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